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Okay, the Fingerpoke was two months ago. Selling the match like it was an epic was funny a couple of times, but it's played out now. David(?) presumably now sees Hogan as his father. This tells us nothing and advances nothing.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] Steve Austin vs The Rock
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1999
This held up *way* better than I was expecting. There were unnecessary bells and whistles in the match just like there were in the build-up, but the work was good, the match always kept moving even during the brawling on the floor (I liked how Austin broke up the "I have your head so you have to walk with me" stuff with occasional punches and kicks, just to keep things semi-realistic), and of course the molten crowd always helps. This crowd was so into the match that they were popping for near-falls off Samoan drops and chair shots. This Mania was shit on at the time, and at times it did feel like an episode of Raw that you had to pay for, but on the whole I think this show ended up being better than its rep. Edit: Late edit for posterity...the Observer polls had this at 125 thumbs up, 57 down, 45 middle, so reaction was more positive than I remembered. Online reaction tended to be worse, albeit divided. -
Meltzer was answering a different question than what was asked. He noted that he was "wrestling every night," but the story said that Strowman is due for elbow surgery. On the WON board Dave walked that Tweet back a bit and was digging further.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] The Undertaker vs Big Bossman (Hell in a Cell)
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1999
Philly is in open revolt for this farce. ECW is over and done with as a relevant entity but I'm not sure a chant a la King of the Ring '95 wouldn't be welcomed here. Of course the lasting image from this match is Michael Cole yammering, "IS THIS SYMBOLIC?!" as a man is ostensibly choking to death in front of his eyes. He's not "hanging the Corporation in effigy," you moron, he's ACTUALLY HANGING SOMEONE. -
[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] X-Pac vs Shane McMahon
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1999
Yeah, as swerves go this wasn't a bad one, and it actually served a greater purpose in setting up a future top heel, something they would need as a Rock face turn was probably inevitable. -
We're well into that stretch where any wrestler willingly handing a weapon to a "helper" from the outside is begging to be turned on. It happens to Kane here.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] Bart Gunn vs Butterbean (Brawl For All)
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1999
Bart's reaction to the very first punch of the match indicates just how much he's in over his head. According to Dave Meltzer, both in the WONs of the time and his appearance on the Lapsed Fan, the WWF really did think Gunn could win this. -
[1999-03-28-AJPW-Championship Carnival] Vader vs Mitsuharu Misawa
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1999
Good heat for okay but marginal action. I'm not sure I get the logic of your Tokyo Dome challenger pinning the champion in advance of the big show--on the other hand, I wouldn't have gotten the logic of your Triple Crown champion stampeding through the Carnival, either. On the other hand, if Kawada wasn't out then they might have been able to hold off on Misawa vs. Vader one-on-one until the Dome.- 6 replies
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Seeing as how this entire motley crew looks indistinguishable from the heroin-ravaged small town residents of my home state I daresay KAW is 18 years ahead of its time.
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[1999-03-27-MPPW-TV] Interview: Jerry Lawler & Bill Dundee
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1999
I have to agree, the old-timers are the best things about PPW--both Michael Hayes and this feud. -
Yeah, Big Show isn't ready for prime time yet. His whole presentation is off--he's not carrying himself as a monster (other than the spot where he no-sells the posting), he's overweight, and the ring gear isn't all that flattering. Which is not to say he should have been doing the job here by any means. They try to save him somewhat by having him pop up from the Stunner after the 3-count, but too little, too late. Rock manages to lay out Stone Cold as we close out another pre-WrestleMania build-up that, strong go-home Raw notwithstanding, wasn't half as effective as the build to WM14. Just too many moving parts in the main event and not enough focus on the mid-card.
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I didn't mind this, it was a payback (of sorts) for the previous week where it was someone disguised as Kane, unrelated though that angle was. I have to admit, both of these fooled me. Triple H pulled this off well.
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Shouldn't it be ROSS IS WAR? And yes, Hardcore Holly showed up after this (JR calls him out in this segment for breaking his table the previous week) to brawl with Doc.
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[1999-03-22-WWF-Raw] Vince McMahon, Steve Austin, The Rock and Mankind
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1999
A money segment for sure and one of the iconic moments of the era. Maybe the strongest overall WWF segment of 1999, since the Russo-ism is minimized to the finagling over the referees and the rest is about all these incredible dynamic personalities showing off. Austin cuts one of his best promos in months--checking into the Smackdown Hotel and BURNING THAT SUMBITCH TO THE GROUND. Everything is focused on what's going to happen at WrestleMania and we close out with an indelible image that Vince puts over beautifully. -
I have to admit I enjoyed this quite a bit. Maybe because it looks so good by comparison to what else is going on in WCW and the work is better than most WWF matches by this point. Flair doesn't mesh with Rey perfectly but he does it a lot better than one might expect, and other than Flair-Goldberg this is the first Nitro main event in months to carry some "what exactly is going to happen?" intrigue to it. Better than some other "yes, this match really happened" matches of the decade.
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...but he's not really wrong, is he? This, incredibly, is one of the first things on Nitro in months to tease and build to something happening next week.
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[1999-03-22-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash and Miss Nitro
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1999
God knows what the point of this was, since they're still half-assing this supposed Hogan and Nash babyface turn. Nash says something to Sable in a desperate attempt to be cool. Hogan's equally desperate attempts to get "YOU DID *NOT* JUST SAY THAT!" over the live mic is another demonstration of how far he's fallen.- 5 replies
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[1999-03-22-RINGS] Kiyoshi Tamura vs Hiromitsu Kanehara
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Good finish to a total snoozefest of a match. Kanehara offered nothing and Tamura didn't seem to want to drag anything out of him. -
So, so glad to see this show crop up (or return)--especially because there's probably a *million* weird forgotten things in WCW that are far weirder and far more forgotten than WWF stuff like Battle Kat or Friar Ferguson. Just spitballing about the Underdog Challenge here--maybe Watts was trying to create "pushed jobbers" like the Sal Sincere/TL Hopper types brought in by the WWF in 1996? That is, give some guys a few wins just to add a bit more intrigue to squash matches, only in a far more Watts-ian way than the WWF did?
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Jerry also described Man-Hands, "It's like dating George 'The Animal' Steele."
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Another Taz-Sabu match that fails to live up to the hype. Hopefully this is done with, but if it is Taz is rather disturbingly out of fresh challengers already. And come on--on the same show in 1999 ECW we're teasing a "referee's decision" finish *and* a towel throw-in finish? No Heyman worshipper should ever complain about ether again with these false finishes out of 1965. I'm not opposed to the idea of any of those finishes, but they only work in a promotion and an environment where they're put over as actually having a chance of happening.
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