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Well, this was burned through way, way too quickly. Both as an angle and as a match. I wish they'd found some sort of cover story for why no one came out to help Lawler, when a barrage of babyfaces were out to help Bruce Prichard earlier.
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I can't say that I'm enamored at the prospect of a Hales vs. Prichard feud, but Dave does a fantastic job of getting this angle over.
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Sort of a re-do of the Goldust-Pillman angle from '97...these stips almost never work in favor of the babyface.
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This was something quite short of "fundamentally solid"--there's some sloppiness and some awkward transitions and some more Big Two cosplaying (Matt doing the Scott Hall "ooh I'm scared" move as well as a crotch chop). But man, if you're not into this by the end, I'm not sure if you have a pulse. This is like a rinky-dink version of the Kobashi/Kikuchi-Can-Ams tag with the hometown factor and the megapops down the stretch, and when the big spots do hit, they look great. Even the ref bump finish is carried out well and this builds to a logical and crowd-pleasing finish, rather than a 2.9-fest. I'm no 2000s-'10s indy expert but I definitely haven't seen anything that's this satisfying--another match that's more than the sum of its parts, and maybe a dark-horse pic for US MOTY.
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[1999-01-28-WCW-Thunder] Scott Hall & Kevin Nash vs Rey Misterio Jr & Konnan
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in January 1999
The NWO deign to make an appearance on Thunder, but they're not getting paid enough to run. Rey and Konnan are sacrificed just to get the Hogan-Flair match over. -
[1999-01-25-WWF-Raw] Owen Hart & Jeff Jarrett vs Ken Shamrock & Big Bossman
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in January 1999
Shamrock and Boss Man had been given saltpeter before the bout which supposedly would make them immune from Debra's advances, but not immunity from Koko B. Ware running in dressed as the Blue Blazer and walloping Shamrock with the guitar, to give Owen & Jarrett the tag titles, an angle and finish lifted from the famous Fabulous Kangaroos-Miller Brothers match of 1957. -
Ah, Super Bowl halftime...a history in its own right. The phenomenon had rebounded after being a long-running joke a few years before this when they landed Michael Jackson, but had slid back into irrelevance and would stay there until the wardrobe malfunction of 2004. The door was back open, after In Living Color had pioneered the idea, of counterprogramming, and the WWF was the perfect company and audience to try it with. This is another long and drawn-out segment after we got one to open the show, but at least these segments are advancing the story in major ways.
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Yes, Austin was clearly sloshed here, and it showed. Have to say that as far as Russo gaga goes, this is all kind of logical and forward-thinking in its own way. Vince probably should have known his own rulebook better, but what the hell--it's not any different than Ted DiBiase not realizing that selling the WWF title was impossible. Austin stumbles his way through the end of this, but the end result--Austin vs. Vince in a cage--sells itself.
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"Over 25 profiles" = 26, yes? That gives us a look at about 7% of the active roster.
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Bret was nursing a legit groin injury at this point, but the main reason he was inactive is that WCW had told him they didn't have anything for him to do. Yes, really. This of course is a legendary promo and I've even already commented on it, but the 1993-like backstage setting looks weird in the Monday Night Wars era and makes this look more like an episode of WCWSN than Nitro.
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[1999-01-25-WCW-Nitro] Bam Bam Bigelow vs Scott Hall (Ladder)
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in January 1999
I didn't have a problem with Hall carrying the ladder out--it was an impromptu challenge match, after all. Not an all-timer of a ladder match, but I might have liked it more than Eddy vs. Syxx. Hall clearly lays this out and draws upon WM10 for inspiration as a lot of the same spots are there. Still, a dumb finish that doesn't satisfy anything (even though Goldberg does get a monster pop for the double spear, which is a spot that will never not get over) except to put heat on SCOTT NORTON.- 4 replies
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Gee, who do you think Stevie's trying to rip off with the look and all the talk of his "$500 shirt"? The Wolfpac arrive on a private jet and make noise about "trimming the fat," but the only fat that gets trimmed is Curt Hennig. Vincent, Adams, Horace, Norton, and Stevie remain. Then the group arrives in a box and we get an entire segment revolving around Stevie Ray's choice of attire. Fascinating.
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Speaking as a retailer, Dillinger is in the right here. Stan Lane would be proud of Bischoff's efforts in disguising his haircut.
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A fun show as usual...as for how far to go, I think the departure of the Radicals would be a good stopping point. I can only speak for me but it seemed like that was the moment where there was truly no return and that WCW was forever consigned to #2. Realistically they'd probably already reached that point, but that felt like the death knell. Anything else is just playing out the string, and whatever noteworthy moments came after that seem to be well-covered by the RuView episodes. '99 is certainly a depressing year, but maybe until the Russo jump you could burn off 2 or 3 months at a time, like in the early shows, and concentrate more on the bigger stories.
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Hmmm...the fact that Finkle takes special care this year to explain how going through the ropes isn't an elimination doesn't sound like a massive red flag or anything. Leave it to Russo to try to kill off the Rumble match because gosh darn it, it's just not interesting enough on its own. So we get STORIES, people coming into the ring with no one to fight, Kane eliminating himself because of the presence of asylum orderlies, Mabel being kidnapped, Vince doing commentary on his own match...and yet, with all this ridiculous overthinking and overbooking, we get maybe the most unimaginative ending possible. Surely there had to be a better fuck finish leading to a Vince win than a lame distraction that makes Austin look like a complete idiot. I think the 2015 disaster eclipsed this as far as bad Rumbles, but this is certainly the worst to date and one of the worst ever.
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[1999-01-24-WWF-Royal Rumble] Mankind vs The Rock ('I Quit')
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in January 1999
I'll allow the delay in playing the recording, since a.) Rock wanted to settle a personal grudge with Mankind by inflicting punishment on him first, and b.) you could argue that the Corporation thought they were being clever in delaying it so that they wouldn't blow their cover, even though their scheme was blown the next night on Raw anyway. I actually had a bigger problem with Rock climbing up to the platform for no real reason other than to set up the big bump into the electrical panels--not a terrible idea for a big spot, but the set-up beforehand was contrived and it's forgotten about 5 minutes after it happens. As for the match...as work, especially before the brawl to the back of the arena, it's pretty good--by 1999 WWF standards, maybe even great. Mankind's mini-comeback while handcuffed is well-done also. As theater, I can't say it wasn't engrossing. As a heated hate-filled grudge, I have to say both guys put across their agendas well, separating this from some other late-'90s exercises in brutality and gore. The chairshots were icky to watch even for me live at the time and it's certainly gotten worse since then. I can't excuse it other than to say that it was a means to an end in pushing this feud to another level and that it was compelling to watch in a sick sort of way. We'll see if this holds up as the WWF MOTY--there won't be a ton of competition, but there's still two Austin/Rock matches and the No Mercy ladder match that I'm pretty sure I've never actually seen before.- 13 replies
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Is TNA the worst wrestling promotion in history?
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Just playing devil's advocate here: TNA got burned because Drew Galloway got hurt at a WCPW show and they had to re-do Bound for Glory because he couldn't wrestle. If a guy's out for one day, he misses a month's worth of TV. I can see the company wanting some sort of insurance policy. -
[1999-01-24-WWF-Sunday Night Heat] Steve Austin and Vince McMahon
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Kevin Kelly was still around at this point?? Shane is still bad on commentary, but at least he's got a consistent character going now instead of just leeching onto anything and everything. -
The highlight of this was Gang actually taking a top-rope huracanrana. A fun burst of a match that doesn't overstay its welcome as Gang definitively and selflessly puts Sabu over. For a few minutes, the UWF Gang was back.
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Not sure if this was a deliberate cliffhanger or just bad timing. In any case, it appears that Stasiak may not have been such a dolt after all...
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Stasiak kind of comes off as a dolt for truly believing that Stacy wants him, but...well, Sean Stasiak kind of *is* a dolt. And the best wrestling characters are usually just real-life extensions. Parking lot brawls are nothing new to Memphis but this was a refreshing swerve rather than doing yet another on-location angle.
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Volk, even when mostly dominating, still knows when to throw in a few hope spots for his overmatched opponent, as he as per routine takes a shot and goes down, teasing a KO. That's about as close as Kanehara gets, though. Fun match--better RINGS matches to be sure, but Han was showing his adaptability here as he makes this look more realistic than some of his other dominant carry-jobs that look like exhibitions.
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Also in-between here, though in the end I found more to like than to dislike. The first fall and a half really just isn't very interesting--Charles looks scary with the blood on his face, but it's just kind of "there" until the technicos start their big comeback halfway through the second fall. Aimless as the opening was, it certainly did build well to a pretty crazy third fall with big bombs being the order of the day more than crazy dives, the biggest being Felino's crazy crucifix super bomb. Not sure this reaches the heights to be a serious MOTYC but it was a fun trios match with everyone looking good in the end.
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There were lots of other options, including Sapphire, Coach, Hiro Matsuda, and numerous post-Jimmy Hart Memphis doofuses. All worse and less effective than Fuji.