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[1998-09-14-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
Warrior rambles some more but this is at least punchier and quicker than his other promos. But not any less stupid, as Disciple has to feign unconsciousness while also kneeling.- 3 replies
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[1998-09-14-WCW-Nitro] Billy Kidman vs Juventud Guerrera
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
A good match given time, but definitely uneven--the middle part drags because Kidman still isn't really a ring general and there's too much time doing nothing in-between highspots. That said, the pop for the title change (and some of the near-falls before that) is huge and Kidman seems like a good, fresh young face to build a Cruiserweight division around now that most of the old guard are working as heavies and actively refusing to compete for the title anymore. And while he spaces out his moves a little too much, I do like how good Kidman's basic offense--the elbow drops, leg drops, and suplexes--looks. He still wrestles like a product of his time rather than an indy ROHbot of today.- 6 replies
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I liked how Saturn builds up every other guy in the Flock, except Lodi who just gets a "good luck."
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Well, WWE has gotten marginally better at this since Chad's post, but probably not by enough. As for this, there have been better show-closing clusterfucks and I'm not sure Austin is fully recovered yet from SummerSlam. The mini-alliance between Rock and Mankind is an interesting development setting up a neat payoff to come.
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Venis really does come off as a douchebag for '90s dudebros. I have no problem with Terri getting revenge on Dustin for what he did last November, a narrative that Jim Ross at least briefly attempted to pay lip service to, but El-P explains why the angle isn't going to age well at all. I have one other problem: even though I'm predisposed to dislike Venis' character for multiple reasons, Dustin is actually *too* good of an actor. He sells anguish so well that I can't help but view him as the babyface and Venis as a sadistic heel, whether that was the intention or not.
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Rock picks up a huge win over Kane, with some help from Mankind. Yeah, Rock has arrived as a top guy. Even in 1998, wins and losses mattered. Mankind reveals that he lucked out at SummerSlam in two ways: he partially blocked the sledgehammer blow with his hand, and he didn't look all that good to begin with. He accepts Undertaker's challenge, and reveals he's developed some more scientific skills and is looking forward to a fair fight. He demonstrates said scientific skills by taking his sledgehammer to some trash cans.
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[1998-09-14-Beyond the Mat] Michael Modest and Tony Jones WWF tryout
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
I'm amused by Roland Alexander speculating on how he could make APW bigger than it is...if he felt like it. I would love to see more of Vince critiquing actual matches. I'm with Jim Ross in "admiring the effort." I don't really see either guy as WWF material, at least not in the late '90s. Modest may have come 20 years too early.- 4 replies
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Your most "Against The Grain" opinion on wrestling
PeteF3 replied to JaymeFuture's topic in Pro Wrestling
...and Terry because of his bilingualness(?) was tasked with teaching Taka Michinoku to speak English when they were together in the WWF. -
Your most "Against The Grain" opinion on wrestling
PeteF3 replied to JaymeFuture's topic in Pro Wrestling
I mean, Stan Hansen on the rare occasions he was asked to speak on AJPW television in the '90s, spoke in English with subtitles. So did the Funks even though they're definitely fluent in Japanese. If I were a pro athlete I doubt I'd trust the media as far as I could throw them, whether I spoke the home language or not. -
Your most "Against The Grain" opinion on wrestling
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Grisham *is* kind of a clueless asshole, though. -
Laughably bad action--I thought about firing up this match in full to see if it's truly a WMOTYC but I think we have enough here to determine that it is. Hogan is a total idiot here, as the dumbass rules are that you can win by pinfall even before everyone has entered in the cage--with a title shot on the line, why is this not just a 9-man battle royal in a WarGames cage? Anyway, everyone's out and Hogan has rendered Kevin Nash dead, but he doesn't cover because he has to wait for Warrior to make his entrance. There are about 370 other things wrong with what we see, from the blown finish to the inexplicable sudden presence of security, to...whatever. This show's reputation as one of the worst PPVs ever is well-deserved.
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This is a tale of two matches, as the stuff before the gaga is really, *really* dull and heatless. It's easy to complain about Raven's matches being way overbooked, but you watch the work here and you can see why it had to be done. I'm about ready to write this off as an overrated mess that people only liked because it sucked less than the rest of this card, but then we get a rather masterfully constructed spot where Kidman is about to drop the shooting star press on Saturn, only to level Raven with a dropkick for a monster pop. Saturn follows up with the DVD, but Lodi distracts the ref just long enough for Raven to kick out. We go through myriad false finishes and twists and turns and it's all frankly quite overdone, but it *works.* The crowd gets louder and louder with every kickout and even cynical old me is guessing and wondering what's going to happen next. I really can't name many matches that started off this badly and then got this good.
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[1998-09-13-WCW-Fall Brawl] Chris Jericho vs Greenberg
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
Ridiculous that this didn't lead to anywhere, even a one-off. It didn't even lead to Jericho feuding with any *other* top star, which would have been a boon. Jericho may have been able to make something watchable out of a program with, say, Luger, or Piper.- 4 replies
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[1998-09-13-WCW-Fall Brawl] Interview: Chris Jericho
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
I like how Okerlund doesn't oversell this, not really believing Jericho but still sort of taking him at his word.- 4 replies
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[1998-09-12-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Al Snow, Pat Patterson and Jerry Brisco
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
Snow will probably never be as over in the WWF as he is at this moment. He actually controls the crowd well for most of this, though the Stooge Is Right doesn't quite work. We do get a semblance of a payoff as he whacks Patterson in the family jewels with Head. Still kind of ridiculous in the era of Crash TV that this guy has been asking for a meeting and asking for reinstatement for 3 months. -
Clearly they have bigger plans for the Rock, as he calls out Undertaker and Kane for attacking him last week.
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[1998-09-11-AJPW-Summer Action Series II] Kenta Kobashi vs Akira Taue
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
I don't know if I'd put this up there as one of the great Triple Crown psychological masterpieces--this was basically a war of attrition, two big studs trading chops and a few bombs with one (Kobashi) outlasting the other. It's a very good Kobashi-as-"ace" match, though, weathering a flurry of offense from Taue but still coming off as a top guy in doing so. Against all odds, AJPW is turning out to have quite an enjoyable 1998 and I hope we can close out with a strong Tag League. It wouldn't last, but pieces seem to be moving to freshen the company's direction a bit...and one major piece is still to come.- 11 replies
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[1998-09-11-AJPW-Summer Action Series II] Jun Akiyama vs Yoshinari Ogawa
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
This was great--it took me back to years ago when I tried to make my way through all of Dan Ginnetty's AJPW season sets of the early '90s and seeing all these awesome forgotten mid-card matches that got time to breathe in the 1-hour AJPW timeslot. But I also liked it for all the reasons Loss mentioned--Ogawa stands out precisely because he's not on the level of the other top AJPW guys and he wrestles like it, with a tinge of guts, desperation, and a willingness to do anything to get an edge. I always think of him as a perpetual rookie, even though he was actually a 12-year pro by this point. I also liked how two big turning points came on guys borrowing moves from their respective new partners: Ogawa busts out a tiger driver and Akiyama turns the tide later on with a Kobashi double arm DDT. I don't feel like it can be a true MOTY contender, but who knows--but I did enjoy it as much as any other 1998 All-Japan match, and it deserves an extra snowflake just for Ogawa getting one over on Jun and stopping to point at his own head, as though he'd stepped out of the Budokan and into the Mid-South Coliseum.- 14 replies
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[1998-09-10-WCW-Thunder] Arn Anderson and Eric Bischoff
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
Hey, what do you know...WCW just decided to prove my point in the Duggan thread for me. Let's piggyback of a real and emotional cancer diagnosis announcement with a phony neck injury angle. Okay, that bit of cynicism aside I have one more major gripe with this angle: NO ONE IS CLUED IN THAT "LEFT-HANDED" MEANS ARN'S BAD ARM. We have to figure it out for ourselves because Schiavone, Heenan, Marshall, Bischoff, and even Arn himself all have simultaneous brain farts and fail to get that part of the stipulation over, when that should have been a major plot point to plant doubt in the fans' minds as to if Arn can win or not. Okay, enough negativity: everything else about this was terrific, especially Bischoff, who is back to playing a cocky little prick but not drowning in ego, either. That it plays on real-life events and emotions and plays on the feelings of many, many WCW viewers is icing on the cake. -
Jericho explains the meaning of the TV title, and being a TV company he feels he has its most important title. So if Phil Goldberg can have a security entourage, he should have one, too. Jericho has hired his own cameraman and security firm to give us Jerichoholics a backstage peek, and closes it out with a sickeningly goofy grin to the camera. As far as teased elevations to the upper card that won't go anywhere, this is way better than the Eddy Guerrero shit.
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[1998-09-07-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in September 1998
Boy, the contrast in unopposed Nitros between this and 1995 is pretty readily apparent. This whole show felt like a swing and a miss when WCW had a golden opportunity to put the screws to the WWF, having put together a bit of a ratings win streak against all odds. I don't know why I'm even trying to parse the logic of these segments but how *does* this smoke only knock out certain people at a time?- 4 replies
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