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Matches from Bob nominated for the WWF Redux Project... Bob vs. Killer Khan (Date disappeared with the old board) - Both guys were laying in the shots with Khan's chops setting up a nerve hold that was actually worked instead of two guys taking a 5 minute break. Backlund sold the power of Khan's head by shaking his fist each time he threw a punch. Some sick spots including the Khan top tope knee,Backlund standing on Khan's head and a sweet german to end the match. Both guys busted their ass in this match and this will be a Killer Khan match that will not finish last. EASY NOMINATION Ken Patera vs. Bob Backlund (5/19/80) - These dudes come out fighting and nail each other with some stiff shots. Bob’s elbow to the head looks nasty. Great spot where Ken hooks in the Full Nelson early and Bob breaks it while ramming Ken’s head in the turnbuckle piggyback style. Ken gets the back work in motion and this is the part where Phil makes fun of Bob’s facial expressions… goofy as fuck. I love seeing Bob cheat, using the rope, eye rakes, punch to the throat. This sets up the atomic drop but Ken gets outside the apron then KILLS Patera with a SICK SICK SICK piledriver. Bob has one of the best piledrivers. Patera gets the advantage and starts working on Bob’s throat… tree of woe choking, clothesline, throat drop across the rope and tries to pin him while choking. At this point, Ken escapes a n ab stretch by tossing Bob over the top and beating the shit out of him on the outside, busint him open and attacking the cut. I LOVE THAT SHIT. Bob makes his comeback and beats the shit out of Patera on the outside. Now Patera is busted open and Bob beats the shit out of the cut. The end had Bob ram Ken into a chair only for Ken to pick it up and nail Bob with ot as he gets in the ring. Ken looks to put it away with the chair but Bob nails Ken with it a couple of times and wins with a flying body press. This has to be the best match either guy has ever been in and probably a lock for my Top 5. EASY NOMINATION. Bob Backlund vs. Greg Valentine (11/23/81) Holy shit, Backlund attacks Valentine before the match and hits him with the belt. No holds barred! Bob is fucking Greg up. Smart work early when Greg misses a knee charge to the corner, Bob works the legs. Nothing wrong with that. Greg tries to fight back but Bob just kicks his leg and he drops. Bob even goes for a figure-4 but Greg pulls him down and turns the tide. Even after turning the tide, Greg still selling the leg. As of this moment, not really a No Holds Barred match even though it was teased as such early on. Really smart match but not extremely violent. Just as I say that, Greg gets to wrap Bob’s leg around the ringpost several times. Bob escapes the figure-4 a couple of times but Greg finally gets it on and I am liking the leg work in the match. Eventually, Bob catches Greg with his deadlift German for the pin. Not a great No Holds Barred match but a great wrestling match. I have to check Cawthon’s site and see if this was a regular match or No DQ. If it was no holds barred, merely solid. If it was just a match, this was really an easy nomination. Bob Backlund vs. Buddy Rose (8/30/82) - Holy shit, Sheri Martel was one of Buddy’s ring girls! Early on, the match starts out similar to the Orton match with Buddy getting outsmarted early on in the mat, locking up and even on a roll up attempt that results in Buddy getting dropkicked out of the ring. Buddy grounds Bob with a headlock and keeps control even when Bob temporarily escapes. Man, Buddy taking it to Bob even giving Bob a taste of his own medicine with a nasty boot scrape. Really, I am not seeing Bob getting owned like this. It’s a nice change of pace although I wish they would work this headlock more. Bob changes direction and he gets control with his own headlock. Bob does his goofy arm cranks that people hate but his running headlock takeover off the turnbuckle was cool. Buddy is trying to desperately escape but Bob keeps blocking him. Bob even keeps it on after a nice belly to back suplex. Buddy breaks it with a nice crotch on the top rope leading to a tree of woe knee that looked sick. Buddy is kicking Bob square in the head and knocks him off the apron. After some back and forth, eventually, Bob locks on the chicken wing and Buddy goes to sleep. I enjoyed this match but I am a mark for both guys and good headlock worked matches. SOLID NOMINATION that should be on the set with the caveat that the other matches are different enough to also be included as separate entities. If all of their matches follow the same formula, we can just pick the best one including the one that made the Top Ten first time around.

They did the angle with Albert and Droz piercing Val Venis's nose. They would definitely do a tattoo angle.

I just watched Hero vs. Masters from IWF from this year. Really solid match. Not great, but enjoyable nonetheless. Where is IWF based out of? Looked like they had a pretty good crowd. Looked much bigger than recent TNA shows.

The implication wasn't meant to be that it is illegal, rather it isn't a WWE approved method of distribution. I am not going to change the wording but the intention wasn't that people were picking up the network through nefarious means.

Pullman had good to great matches up though 1995. He was a highlight on those early 1994 shows and was great in the Johnny B Badd matches. I don't know if he ever had a great singles match in wwf but that won't disqualify him from the list yet. For reference sake, I currently have him ahead of Owen Hart by mile.

Yep... I second that!!!

To Matt D: I don't want to see those two wrestle again.

Michaels had the great 1997 run as dick champ. In 1997, he was the single most unlikable guy ever. Starting with the "Losing My Smile" speech, the shoot wars with Bret Hart, the tag team with Austin, the formation of DX and being a general prick, he really was in his element.

One pole match ended up as the #1 Mid South match of the 1980s. Then again, it added tuxedos, a coal miner's glove, and a cage.

PG-13 were pretty awesome.

Man, another John Cena vs. Randy Orton match.

I forgot they were in Atlanta.

I thought the Big Show vs. Rusev match had some good heat but is this crowd really, really quiet?

So, with recent talk about how this board is Indy Unfriendly, I wanted to create a topic on the biggest Indy of all. Before, Loss, Tim Cooke and myself started going crazy with bulk buys, creating collector boards, and amassing huge amounts of old school goodness, it was ROH in 2004 that kept my interest in wrestling alive. I was fascinated by the entire Feinstein fallout but it was around the same time that the product really picked up and they started dropping all of these awesome match-ups out of the blue. Samoa Joe was on fire as champ. Joe-Punk still held up for me a couple of years ago when I watched some stuff with Johnny P. The Joe-Aries match felt like a big deal. Liger coming to the U.S. felt like a big deal. The Chicago Street Fight was a big deal to me. Low-Ki and Homicide looked legit. Foley, Steamboat and the MX made cameos. Man, I love me some 2004 ROH.

With the network numbers being released at the end of the month, I am curious on the PWO network numbers.

Hey Khawk, is there enough footage of these guys to make a case or are we just stuck with the 1980s nostalgia reunion?

The feud with the Rockers is enough to propel both teams on the list. They face some stiff competition from stronger tag teams from other territories but they are in the conversation.

The Brisco feud was great as was the Slaughter feud. May have the single cheesiest non-Fabs video ever with the guys working out.

Watching the AWA footage, I really wanted to like these guys more.

I want to add that they had the 3rd best series of squash matches behind Condrey-Eaton and Ragin' & Ravishin'.

Past both guys prime. Lack of any real high end matches. No shot.

I am with shoe. For every good match, they have 2 or 3 where I was dozing off watching them.

Past both guys prime. Lack of any real high end matches. No shot.

I'll always have a soft spot for the Bulldogs. My sister saw a bloody cage match in Sacramento against the Dream Team that I still have pictures of somewhere. One of my biggest mark out moments was Ozzy at ringside at Wrestlemania 2 when the Dogs won the belts.

I have seen the Lawler - Dory match but Lawler is the master of getting good to great matches out of stiffs so I am not going to praise Dory there. I enjoyed the Hoffman match. But then again, I don't think it was because of Dory but rather because Hoffman is more interesting to me. Of course i have seen thise Sheik Abby brawls. Fuck dude, I know you are discovering these matches for the first time but for some of us, this is old hat. Again, in those matches, it isn't Dory that I cling to when thinking of those matches.