KrisZ

It's the way of the world now, TV shows have hashtags at the bottom of the screen, every sports league pimps it during games. It's a big deal now and WWE is just doing their part.

I love the new talking point about wrestlers/fighters tweeting saying that's not how stars act yet the most of the biggest celebs in the world are active tweeters.

Does the 3 count contributors or not because if it does then that may change some things.

HAHAHA CM Punk schooled Mauro Ranallo and everyone that whines and cries about WWE.

The similarities between Vince and this man is really starting to get uncanny.

Ricky Morton's demons is why he is where he is today.

That's a long staple in wrestling that goes back years where you can have these violent angles and then when they get in the ring they start with a tieup.

Dave overrates Kurt beyond belief today so he would be pimping him hard if he was on the ballot for the first time today.

Be prepared for the marking out by Meltz & Chico over Chael Sonnen's post match promo tonight.

Solid Johnny Barend bio in the 2nd WON that came out today.

Regal weighs in.

They've never taken away the GM podium and we could actually get a payoff of that angle here.

They specified that RAW was the out of control show. Teddy Long runs Smackdown even though Trips is the main boss

CM Punk speaks on last night's angle

Dutch is in touch with things at least on Facebook but I'm just throwing out names.

I will tell you this it is definitely not Punk or Sapolsky because they are marks for Punk. No one has brought up Dutch for the conversation, he was successful in Puerto Rico.

Dave's headline to this was "Response by former successful booker about the news this past week". So the question is who do you think the booker is.

Brisco's & Barnett had enough for Vince to take over as Ole & Fred Ward were the other partners IIRC. Another factor in this is how did Crockett perceive his relationship with Vince because Vince was very friendly with him in early 1984 by letting Piper work out his dates, Sarge coming in for the Steamer retirement show in January and letting Valentine work a complete month for him after coming back to work WWF TV. Also regarding Florida, when Crockett, Verne, & Jarrett all hooked up for PWUSA, Graham was conspicuous by his absence in his involvement in that promotion.

Those Northern tours were actually what was keeping GCW going for a while there as they were the hottest towns since the Omni was way too big for them to run so often and Macon/Columbus were good towns but not booming business like Columbus, Cleveland, or Huntington. Regarding Florida another factor is maybe Dusty didn't want Jim to go there out of respect for the Graham family as Dusty & Mike were always close like brothers pretty much. Bringing up why JCP didn't buyout the other partners, that's an interesting point because Jack & Jerry were working for Crockett at that time as the NWA World Tag champs so that was an easy way to go but I don't think Crockett was serious at that time or just never thought that they would sell to Vince. We have to think about that as well, who really thought the Brisco brothers would turn their backs on the NWA. I'm sure it caught almost everyone by surprise.

They ran the Ohio Center in C-Bus and the Convocation Center in Cleveland so big buildings in those markets. As we've seen WWF went for the Miami market heavy at first and didn't really go to Tampa until late 85-early 86 when CWF was starting to tumble. The deal with JCP was they were having one of their worst years in 1984 and you could actually make the case that GCW was doing better than they were before the Vince buyout. Dusty comes in as booker in July and they start doing a little bit better but it doesn't pick up until Starrcade so around Black Saturday time, CWF was just as strong if not stronger than JCP although Dusty going to JCP hurt them hard. Watts not getting TBS was the X-factor in the whole equation. Watts was ready to open up an office in the ATL and everything but Crockett being the smart businessman saw what was coming and wrote the check. I just don't think Crockett would've dropped the NWA name he just wanted to take over the NWA for his own.

Yeah but at the time they already had access to the buildings until Vince put the squeeze on the owners and that was easier than trying to get Mike to sell out. GCW had success running Columbus & Cleveland along with the main cities in West Virginia. Michigan wasn't as strong but they still ran there and they dipped their toes in Altoona and while I don't have numbers they were doing better there than WWF did in that same building.

Well basically what Crockett did was add Philly & Jersey to the circuit that Georgia already had lined up with Baltimore, Ohio, Michigan, West Virginia, & Western PA so he had a NE circuit set up in 1985 after buying out Ole. The deal with going out west a lot was simple in that Flair & Dusty wanted to go there as much as possible because of their love for Vegas especially Flair. They would camp out in Vegas then travel from there every day. The problem with the Southwestern circuit was you still had Fritz & Watts maintaining a stronghold although you had Crockett sending talent to Watts for big shows to knock out Fritz for leaving the NWA but Watts was very smart to get Flair to come in during 1985 building a relationship with him & Crockett for the future war with Fritz. If Watts would've been smart he would've tried to group up with Crockett proper instead of trying to run national on his own. Another thing that definitely should've been taken care of was Houston and Crockett really should've buttered him up because not getting Houston with the Watts buyout was a huge detriment. They get Houston and the TV with Boesch still around doing what he did and they have some big momentum because Vince was struggling there. The biggest problem in everything of course was the stubborn promoters which Vince didn't have that problem with because he just took them out directly.

The deal with Florida was that after Eddie died, Mike took over and we all know about how Mike is so that's why it took so long before he finally sold out. The thing about Crockett was when he expanded into Philly & Chicago, he did really well there and like we've seen in posts earlier in the thread they would win some battles in those cities which if they could have maintained that it would have put Vince on his toes.

Somewhere Lagana is crying over that critique.

It's going to be hard to win over the Meltz disciples.