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The Japanese wikipedia doesn't really say that people missing their trains was a reason for the boom ending. Under the company timeline entry for Big Egg it mentions that the crowd number was disappointing, the show ran long and caused people to miss their trains and that the show as a whole marked the end of the boom period. Since the show was announced so far ahead of time, they had the opportunity to run any number of fresh interpromotional match-ups or book a main or semi-final far more memorable than the V*TOP tournament. What was the point of the V*TOP tournament, to give Hokuto a token win on the way out? If Toyota and Kong hadn't produced such a memorable first round match it would've been a total waste of time. Don't know why they wasted the Kong/Kansai match-up on a meaningless semi-final and all things considered they would have been better off giving Hokuto one last WWWA title shot out of respect instead of the tournament format regardless of how banged up she was. I think in terms of this particular show it was scheduled too far ahead of time. On the back of a hot '93, a year or more is a long time to maintain momentum.
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Thirty reasons why the boom ended. Should be a piece of cake for an authority like you.
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Jesse would have been awesome during the NWO angle. I can just picture him hanging out with Hall and Nash promising to call it straight down the middle like he did with the Mega Bucks vs the Mega Powers. I suppose they could have made a run at Lawler, Jerry.
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One thing that crossed my mind is that Heenan played a character in the WWF (former manager turned broadcast journalist) and had a lot of running jokes. In WCW, he was kind of a third wheel. He'd add a joke every now and again, but they weren't that funny and they didn't take up stretches of the commentary like they did in the WWF. Plus, he'd have to make serious comments about feuds or WCW and the NWO and they were never particularly convincing either. But in a two man situation on their taped shows, there was no one for him to play off. I think he would have even struggled with Jim Ross. In a way, Bobby arriving in the booth was almost as jolting and out of place as Hogan's arrival. A bit cartoony compared with the first half of '94.
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I could never figure out why Heenan had no chemistry with anyone in WCW. It wasn't as though his schtick only worked with Monsoon in the WWF. It was pretty effective with McMahon and Piper too. Different style of product?
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Can't think of too many wrestlers who've been good at guest colour spots, but from the opposite perspective I love Owen Hart promos but he's a guy who's not considered a great promo whom I thought was great on colour.
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So go ahead and give us 30 reasons why the boom ended.
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Jerome, that's all fine and good when you're on vacation, but not everyone wants to do that. I was over doing that in my first year. It may seem like I'm being anal and squabbling over a minor detail, but it really was a stupid thing to do in terms of running a major event in Tokyo.
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I think they laid an egg as far as running the Dome goes (pun intended.) The show has a false rep among Western fans because it was the first time a woman's promotion had run the Tokyo Dome and for the longest time it was pimped alongside Dream Slam I and II as the three best shows ever, whereas in Japan it's generally remembered as being half full and a failure. Whether it really was the jumping off point for a lot of fans is debatable. I tend to think of the 90s Joshi boom as a borrowed audience who were always going to drop Joshi once the novelty wore off, but if you compare it to when the Matsunagas ran Budokan during the 70s boom period there simply wasn't the same care taken with running the Dome. My point about it being one of the worst major shows ever had more to do with the fact that they promoted it all year as the Dangerous Queen Countdown (as you're well aware from watching the yearbook) then reneged on the whole Dangerous Queen deal when they were struggling to draw the following year. That's hardly knocking one out of the park. To me that was a sign of a company in a major decline.
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Hokuto/Kandori is considered one of the greatest Joshi matches of all-time, but people started missing their trains halfway through the match and had to spend the night in Shin-Yokohama station, or so the story goes. That's piss poor time management.
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You missed your train because the show went past 12:30am? I find that hard to believe or that you were staying so far away that you needed to leave around 11. In any case, why would someone on a wrestling trip care as much as a local? I've never been to an event in Tokyo that left people without a train. It's just not done. Anyway, it's a common complaint about the AJW mega shows of that era. They did the same thing with Dream Slam in Yokohama. Worst major show ever, take it or leave it, but Flik asked why I said it was poorly run and I think a 10 hour card that runs over time with a lousy tournament instead of a real card and a proper retirement is a poor showing for such a milestone show. What's funny is that it's even mentioned on the AJW Japanese wiki page.
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That's funny. John Have you ever missed the last train from Tokyo Dome when you live in Chiba or Saitama or Kanagawa?
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Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ohtani's jacket replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
Dunno that I'd put Saint ahead of Michaels and Marty Jones' stock has dropped a bit for me lately after watching some of the non-TWC World of Sport. -
One limiting factor is that, if I'm not mistaken, not that many people have personal computers in Japan. They mainly access the Internet through their cell phones, which is less conducive to that sort of thing. Most people have a laptop.
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Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
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I like a number of Tito's matches. His career was a disappointment in terms of matches. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
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Shawn is pretty clearly above Tito in the pecking order. Tito's career is a disappointment when it comes to matches. -
Reminds me of the time I came across an 80s Joshi bulletin board where they were posting pictures of crotch shots for everyone to admire. I've seen and read the equivalent of Japanese sleaze threads. It's the internet; all sorts of carry on goes on.
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Looks like a comedy sketch from a variety show. Japanese TV dramas have low budgets. Even the serious ones are cheap looking.
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They were British fans. Don't think that really counts.
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The cool thing about that Toshie match is how much she cares about that WCW title. It's a neat undercard match. With AJW you'll need to capture the story of LCO vs. Ito and Watanabe. With JWP it's the Yagi matches before her retirement and the Kansai/Fukuoka title match. With Jd' you'll need to concentrate on the Jaguar vs. Lioness feud. I would be extremely wary of Lorefice's star ratings and instead try to plot how the year went for each fed.
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Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
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How so? As the 90s wore on there was a real push towards show topping matches. In Japan in particular there was nowhere else the matches could go expect bigger and longer. And with things like the sitdown interviews with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels there was an effort to present them as real people not just characters. The fact that they were real people connected to their work made their matches seem more like personal accomplishments. Michaels was supposed to the show stoppa and this great entertainer who had classic matches long before his comeback, and JR was beating us over the head with how emotional everything was long before the current era. The whole manufactured classics thing really isn't special to WWE, though. CMLL and the Japanese feds are just as bad. Wrestling was always going to evolve into something that tried to outdo what had come before in the 90s and the 90s was an incredibly bloated decade in terms of upping workrate. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
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Michaels is an awful actor and I don't like the manufactured classics, but it's not surprising that wrestling evolved that way. You can see the roots on the 90s yearbooks. -
The Rude/Dustin match I liked from '93 was in May, I think. They had a lot of poor matches that year so you have to be careful. EDIT: Checked the Smarkschoice WCW results and it must be Dustin Rhodes vs. Rick Rude - Worldwide 5/15/93.