Tim Cooke

Next weeks classic WON issue will have even more about Dave's 1992 Japanese Trip.

I'm not sure the consensus has necessarily changed on some of the 90's main eventers matches from the 90's - for the most part, Caras/Universo/Mascara dos Ano/Perro Sr./etc. didn't have many great matches on tape in the 90's. Pierroth did before the injury. It was the Capos/Perros feud in 2005 that showed they still had something left, using a lot of stiff brawling to make up for lack of high spots. When these matches were praised, I remember Rob Bihari being upset that these guys were thought of as better works than Mistico and Ultimo Guerrero.

After Will compiled the PWFG Comp, I tracked down Sano's UWF-I work. If you are expecting it to even be in the same neighborhood as the 7-26-91 Suzuki, 5-19-91 Shamrock or 9-28-91 Vale match, probably going to be very disappointed.

I used to think Rogers was better than Morton. I don't hold that opinion any longer. Rogers was extremely talented and a heck of a wrestler. He took big bumps, had some nice flying moves, decent ability to work the mat, and good charisma. But Morton has all of that too and does it better. As an FIP, both guys did a great job. Both took big bumps to get their opponents offense over. But their bumping styles were different. Rogers bumping was much more classical - big bumps on his back and some neck bumps when moves required them. Morton would often take a bump on to his knees and go to the mat, where he would take two to three more mini bumps when his opponent punched him in the face, neck, chest, back. Rogers bumps stick out far more than Morton's but so do Ric Flair's when compared to Ricky Steamboat. Flair took big theatrical bumps, Steamboat sold little things a lot more so he didn't have to take as many wild bumps. Move wise, they are equals. Morton had the rana, Rogers had the old style flying headscissors. Both could do a variety of arm drags, often bringing some lucha flavor to them. Seen both adequately work the mat. In Cornette's results book, he talks about a 1988 MX/Fantastics match from Miami that he wishes was taped, as it was the best match they had together from his view. With the new Cornette raw footage of the 1986 feud, I think the RnR will start to be more highly though of (Mid South and Memphis DVDVR projects have helped this). Also, I think Robert Gibson is a better wrestler than Bobby Fulton. Fulton takes him on charisma but Gibson never had a performance like Fulton did in one of the tag matches on the Mid South set, where Fulton fired back a punch every 10 seconds while being the FIP. He got zero heat and the tag didn't get a pop. In re-watching 1988-1990 MX, Stan Lane certainly doesn't hold up nearly as well as Dennis Condrey. It's mostly the kicks. When he lands them well and has someone selling them well, he is good. But often, one of those two things is missing.

The 2/86 and 8/86 handhelds from Cornette's new DVD will help even up the MX vs RnR strength of matches. I need to re-watch the MX/Fantastics World Class matches. Right now I would put the MX v RnR as being overall better but the best match is the Clash I MX/Fantastics.

Midnight Express vs. Rock n Roll Express or Midnight Express vs. Fantastics (both NWA MX teams, RnR is Morton/Gibson, Fantastics are Rogers/Fulton)

I thought the promo rocked. Needed to fill 4 minutes of TV time so instead of doing the usual schtick, he went nuts on Sting, Luger, and Dusty (in which he had or was going to have matches against) and then busted himself open.

I'm disappointed in Part 2 of Dave's Misawa bio.

http://forum.f4wonline.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=77766

It's in the Observer/F4 folder, in the thread with the issue dated 6/22/09

"There were times in the theater where I would have wanted to "jump" Peter Jackson for what he did to Lord of the Rings. That doesn't mean that I thought his movies were "real", or the books that he based them on were "real". I just happened to be pissed off at Heel Jackson for what he did to my favorite Face Books. Heck, I wasn't even liquored up when getting pissed off." The example of this in terms of wrestling would be, "HHH just pinned Austin in 5 minutes to win the WWF title. I'm pissed because it is obvious that HHH is using his power to run Austin out of town." A fan getting aggravated by a wrestler who is heeling it up would better compare to someone getting worked up over a movie/TV show, having the knowledge that it is scripted and fake in the back of their heads, but the material being so compelling that they lose sight of reality.

I wonder how he will respond to Meltzer's jab in the latest WON?

I love a great inside cradle or small package. Sadly, whenever an ROH match ends on a somewhat flash pin, the fans bitch and complain about a finishing move not finishing the match.

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/video_re...-Of-The-90s.htm I forgot how poor this list was until I saw it again this morning.

When did WCW move it's PPV to Sunday Night's on a permanent basis? Also, does anyone have a thorough recap of what the 1997 Apocolypse angle was supposed to be?

I like Sydal but he has never had the great matches London has had.

Can anyone shed some light on John Muse? 04/30/01 WON - "Speaking of Bischoff, if he had been able to acquire WCW as was expected, besides Rob Van Dam and Don Callis, who have admitted being pretty close to deals but told to keep it quiet, I believe Joey Styles was also under consideration as an announcer and John Muse was going to be given the job of head booker of the cruiserweight division, which would have been kept largely seperate."

He thinks the Jericho incident could be a work.