Dan

http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/17418/ Illegal crugs, those are the worst kind.

I'm listening to the John Capouya (author of the Gorgeous George book) interview on F4D from 10-21-2008. It's a decent interview, but a few things jumped out at me: Bryan: "I'm always fascinated when I read about history [...] Gorgeous George came on a new medium in television; coming right after a very depressing period, which was World War II [...] " Yes, what a horrible mark in U.S. history: V-E Day and V-J Day. Bryan looked better when Capouya sort of implied that he didn't know who Ric Flair is. JC: "Ric Flair? ... wasn't he called the Nature Boy?" BA: "Yee-ah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah."

Todd doesn't stand alone. From WOR: DM: To me, the whole segment, when the Big Show came out - no one cared about him! ... BA: He's the guy who's lame enough to actually be here. DM: This is the 900th show and the real stars [Austin and Rock] don't even come back for special shows! BA: They moved on. DM: That made me feel like I needed to move on. BA: [...] CM Punk showed Big Show suplexing Big Show. [..] He added "I don't know who the other guy was" DM: That was quite the knock, wasn't it? BA: They came off sooo lame. DM: They came off so insecure. To be fair, I thought it was meant as a knock as a well. In a "ha ha, only serious" kind of way.

Making things even sadder. From his FB:

Dave sez:

Found this in the 6-3-2002 WON. Dave's analysis of the Chyna-Buttafuco fight, and it's potential for freak-show MMA.

That doesn't seem too bad to me. "She last worked for us on..." is better than "We released him on..." Also, there's a link to her Alumni page. So it's not as if they're pretending she never existed. Of course, that link might come down pending the cause of death.

Is it me, or does it seem like there's always death related adverts up on wwe.com when a death is announced:

I noticed that there's a long thread documenting all the bloopers and blunders of WOR on F4W board. Here's the best two:

I'm getting OLC flashbacks. But really, it was never a secret that Foley was a seething mess of stubborn pride mixed with rampaging insecurity. You don't even need his books to see that, it was obvious as far back as his ECW heel promos. Every character he's ever had was that of a guy who is mostly a loser, but is desperate to prove he's not a loser by any means possible. Nobody should have been surprised by any of the more recent "revelations". I don't disagree with that. But it's undeniable that Foley has (or had) a fanbase of almost cult-like devotion. Frightening, really. I was looking at a Foley thread at F4W from Jan 2006, There was some critisism of Foley and ... RE: the RR '99 match: I remember at DVDVR at around the same time, Kevin Cook (probably the best poster in MB history) became the most hated poster ever for suggesting that maybe Foley isn't the greatest guy in the world.

I just was listening to a F4D from Feb 2007. Meltzer says about the same thing as in the WON paragraph.

They basically just buried Foley for an hour. It was pretty good.

So ROH.com is worse than porn sites now?:

There's no mystery about that. Cause of death has always been arteriosclerotic heart disease. With long-term usage of cocaine listed as a contributing cause.

In his shoot, Chris Masters said that while at a dark match he didn’t shake Bob Holly’s hand, because Holly was talking to a couple of guys. Holly yelled at Masters and tried to change the lineup so they would wrestle each other. Presumably so he could beat Masters up. The weird or funny wrestling etiquette stuff should probably have it's own thread.

I think that's your answer. I remember when Dave reviewed 'Foley is Good' years ago. Dave concluded that it was one of the five greatest wrestling books ever. Foley wrote to Dave to inform him that wasn't high enough praise. And he said the review was too critical (it was nearly 100% positive and had no serious criticism) I'm not kidding.

Also, IIRC, Raven said when Sanders finally mustered up the confidence to go up to HHH, it was too late. HHH was standing in front of him with his hand extended (and a dour look on his face, I imagine.)

Yeah, I was going say to say that. Foley always claimed to be a penny-pincher, so he should be set financially. Considering that he used to be so careful to not hurt his legacy, it makes you wonder what's up.

That reminds me a good story Raven tells on one of his shoots. After the WCW buyout, WWF didn't really have anything planned for Mike Sanders due to his perceived bad attitude. But they send him to HWA, and he applies himself well. He impresses management enough to bring him the main roster. On his first day backstage he shakes everyone's hand except for HHH (who's still on crutches from the quad tear). Eventually HHH hobbles up to Sanders. Raven made a farting noise, "Killed his career right there!"

"I might have met him once" is code for "I couldn't possibly have known he was a pain pill popping junkie". However, I agree with the point that it is actually plausible that she hardly knew him, though emphasising that fact makes her look cold and distant. I think she could have said sometime like "He was a good person. We did everything who could to help him through his substance problems. *sigh* " Then again, Linda's poor acting skills would have probably made this impossible. But "I might of met him once" isn't that far removed from just shouting "WHO??" in the reporters face.

Linda on Cade: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...th-critics.html

Facebook trolling equals Controversy. Controversy equals Cash.

That came to mind. I think that was more a self-censoring thing, rather than WWE jargon. In either case, also from that era: the blood in Gangrel's goblet was always called "that viscous red liquid."

The mudslinging has begun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCe29G_i4GU

Too long, I would guess. Wrestling is designed for kids and, well, not very smart adults. Same reason there can't be two wrestlers with the same first name on the roster (see Garrison Cade). That's probably helpful for the announcers as well. Remember when JR would think Chris Jericho was Chris Benoit every week?