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Bryan Danielson vs. Zach Sabre Jr (AEW WrestleDream 2023) This is my first time watching Zach Sabre Jr. I'd heard about him before, but, of all the contemporary wrestlers I've heard about, he was the one I was most apprehensive about watching. My understanding was, as he's "a British wrestler", he's representing something that hasn't existed in any meaningful form since the 1980s and, as such, there's a great level of artifice there. But, actually, I didn't get any feeling of the cosplaying that I was expecting (read: dreading). He actually seems to have simply taken some elements but adapted them to fit this modern style of wrestling. Of a greater issue for me was his selling. He seems to have no body language at all. There were times when he was taking shots from Bryan and I wasn't sure if he was playing possum, grinning and bearing it, or getting beaten up. He was just sat there. There were elements here, individual spots, that I really liked. Some of the transitions which may have otherwise looked hokey were super-tight and actually worked. Many, in fact. But I can't say I connected with any kind of story. There was some technical machismo mano-a-mano stuff going on, and then Zach plays Bryan into using his injured right arm, but there's maybe two minutes of Zach attacking it before Bryan does the Lance Storm rolling crab and it's back to being back-and-forth. Part of the issue I'm having with these AEW matches is, I'm expecting them to go a certain way and suddenly I'm some place else, and before I've found out what this place is, then they're somewhere else again. I'm not feeling the momentum. With the matches I've liked, and I'm including the Walter/Dragunov match in that list, I know what's happening. I know who's on top, I know who's got the momentum, I know where I am. Like, genuinely, what was the story here? Where was the drama? I'm confident in saying that Bryan was the face and I'm rooting for him, but what did he actually go through here? When was he in peril? There were times when Zach had him tied up, yes, but whatever coherency others might see, I just don't. This is wrestling, it should be simple. I shouldn't be this confused.

Tenryu/Kawada vs. Hansen/Gordy (RWTL 1988) I was thinking before I put this on that it's easilly twenty years since I watched it. (And a brief note to start: the half-and-half canvas that All Japan had at the time.is easily my favourite of all time.) But no, this holds up very well. Structurally, it's not a match you can do every week - the three-part "southern tag" formula is the standard for a reason - but the simple two-part formula suits the situation perfectly. It's Hansen who really stands out for me. Gordy was a phenomenal athlete, and everything he did looked great, and Tenryu looked less awkward than he's often seemed to me. But what makes Hansen work is he doesn't follow the steps. A guy throwing a punch will bring his arm all the way back, there's a pause, then it comes forward with a stomp. A guy will raise his leg for a stomp, there again is that pause, and then he brings his foot down while the other leg stomps for the noise. Hansen just does all of these little kicks and jabs, he's always in so close. He somehow manages to still be a very visual wrestler but it's absolutely not how the textbook draws it up. But what it does do, to go back to a point I know I've been harping on about here, is make everything look much more real. And the mask never slips for a second. Back and forth can work, but it has to be a set up for the key spot. And once Hansen kicks Kawada's leg out on the German and lariats Tenryu off the apron, the match is effectively over. The first part of the match is quite back and forth without establishing much more than their respective roles. But the fact that Tenryu never really stands a chance after the switch is precisely what makes the earlier section work.

I edited my earlier post rather than making a new one about Danielson/MJF. If anyone can shed some light on what that match was doing, it would be appreciated. They were not speaking my language.

Bryan Danielson vs. MJF (Iron Man Match: AEW Revolution 2023) I watched the first twenty-five minutes. It made a bad first impression and never got me back. I've seen MJF before, not in matches I don't think, but in interview segments. He struck me as somebody trying much too hard. He came out in a mask and did some weird gurn to the hard camera. Anyway, as to the match. It just felt like guys doing stuff. Danielson opens the match by twisting MJF into a few holds and I'm thinking, OK, this makes sense, Danielson is the better mat wrestler... and then they go into a stand-off sequence. For what? The commentators try to sell it as MJF "proving himself" (five minutes in?), and he then goes into a stall. MJF then works over Danielson's arm/shoulder for several minutes and there's one really cool spot where Danielson works a dive as a hope spot and MJF guides him into the rail on the catch. Coming out of that, they go back and forth for a bit, and then MJF tweaks his knee on a quebrada. I thought this was going to be another Danielson Accidental Injury, but a moment later, MJF drops Danielson on his head with some tucked version of a Michinoku Driver that the commentators put over as a big spot. And then Bryan is right back up and they go into a full two minutes of cradle counters. At that point (35 remaining) I was just completely lost, and turned it off. There was some other stuff they did that I haven't mentioned, but the main point is that nothing registered with me. I have no idea what they were actually doing here. None of the matches I've watched have confused me nearly as much. Even when Ospreay doesn't make sense, it still makes sense as a great athlete doing impressive gymnastic spots for pops. This just made no sense to me at all.

Walter vs. Ilya Dragunov (NXT UK - October 29, 2020) This is my first time seeing either man although I've heard a lot about Walter. I thought "oh no" when they blew off an early sleeper suplex, but once they settled into it, I thought this was pretty damn brilliant. I wonder how it would have felt with a crowd, but I think the only audio being the striking actually enhanced the brutality of it all. I especially liked how they kept up the fight during Ilya's main comeback, with Walter getting shots in, and how the finish was just Walter turning it up to 11 to kill him dead. I think some of Ilya's spots were a bit too spinny and his selling sometimes a bit too performative, and it probably would have benefitted from being five minutes shorter. With the lack of crowd, it would have been even more glaring, but I really think they did a far, far better job at selling what they were doing than any of the other modern matches I've seen. The only other negatives were the camerawork (way too busy), and some truly awful commentary. It hurt the viewing experience, but I can't hold it against them.

Aja Kong vs. Manami Toyota (AJW Big Egg) I was thinking about what would be the most direct comparison between a typical modern athletic big action match and an older one, and decided on early '90s AJW. There are similarities, which I'll get to, but a couple of key differences. The first is that this has a much stronger, more obvious story, although that's because it's Aja vs. Toyota. I'm gonna set that aside until I rewatch Toyota vs. Yamada or Kyoko. The most obvious difference is in how they sell the match. There's an intensity to their performance that Ospreay etc don't have at all. This never felt like two people performing. I can't say it felt like a fight in the way Hansen/Kobashi did, but they are both in the moment and believing in what they're doing far more than the AEW matches. Toyota, of course, was never great at selling the beating she's taken when on offence, BUT, she sells the urgency in a way that the AEW guys didn't. And at least against Aja, it works. Her selling of the beating itself, though, was as good as it gets, and I can't think of anyone who matches her for the sheer, sustained maximalism (read: screaming, etc) of his selling. Aja's performance was better in regards to the consistency of her selling, in so much as she is gradually selling more and more. She's barely emoting anything in the beginning as she spends the first few minutes casually kicking Toyota's ass. After a couple of hope spots, she ramps up the intensity (no pun intended), and she does a great job at putting over Toyota's damage when hitting her final few moves. Ultimately, this is a great spot-fest for the dome.

CM Punk vs. Eddie Kingston (AEW Full Gear 2021) This was the only Punk/Kingston match I could find from AEW, so I'm assuming it's the one MoS mentioned. This was good (mostly*). Kingston looked better here than against Danielson, I think mostly just by dropping the AJ tribute spots. No real story here other than "we fight", but they sold it. Nothing amazing - I don't think Punk is made for the intensity that would elevate a match like this - but a good short match. *But whoever thought Punk doing two WWE tribute spots right in the middle of the match is dumb as fuck. They looked like shit and were completely out of place.

CM Punk/Jon Moxley vs. FTR (AEW Dynamite, 2022) I'm assuming this is the match MoS meant. This is my first time watching FTR and they seem solid enough. One thing I've always liked about both Punk and Moxley is whilst they can be a bit hammy (especially the latter), they do believe in their characters and the mask doesn't slip much. That was true here as well. This was a really nice TV match, actually, at least until the finishing stretch, which took me out of it a bit. I liked how they did a quick section on Punk's leg (from a previous injury angle?) but he got out of there as quick as he could, only for FTR to then then take out Moxley during the break. I think the match would have benefitted from Punk having to go it alone on a bad wheel after the hot tag while Moxley recuperated. I guess that would have needed a few more minutes than they had though. Some of the four-man spots at the end were a bit too cute as they don't have the physical ability to pull them off as well as the Bucks/Omega/Ospreay etc, and the Doomsday Device felt like a cheap pop. Moxley also came back too quickly from the DDT on the floor, at least for my liking. It all felt a bit forced, really, as if they had to get those do-si-do spots in rather than just let the match develop organically into its final act. It always feels a bit flat when its the ending that lets you down, but this had a very solid first 3/4s.

Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi (July 29th, 1993) This is so, so much better than the above matches (even Bret/Hennig) that it almost feels unfair to compare them. (And to a point with Bret/Hennig it is unfair, because they were just trying to have a nice little match on a show when Bret had two others). There's no point my going into too much detail as it's one of the most famous All Japan matches. It's some ten or fifteen years since I watched it, and I had forgotten that Hansen barely gets a consistent run of offence. Kobashi takes the first eight minutes or so, at first urgent, then a bit more composed, until Hansen levels him with the boot in the corner and then splats him on the floor. Yet Kobashi keeps fighting back and how they're able to have Kobashi take so much of the match and yet remain the clear underdog is remarkable. But what really makes this, of course, is how much it feels like a fight. Everything counts. Yes, the shiner helps, but even when Kobashi is climbing to the top rope to go for a moonsault or whatever, you know he has been in, you know he is in, a fight for his life. Hansen's selling is even better, his face is for the camera and his body for the back row. And when he is on offence, he's giving it everything whilst putting over that the kid is really taking it out of him too. On the one hand, these guys had it a little easier. The Budokan crowd wanted to believe and were never gonna break into "this is awesome" no matter how much the match was. And maybe for the wrestlers it was easier to believe in what they were doing because the audience did (or wanted to) as well. But Hansen and Kobashi told an obvious story, everything they did looked great and fit, and (most importantly of all) they sold this match in a way that none of the AEW guys came close to. I remember at some point in Danielson/Ospreay, the crowd chanted "this is wrestling". No. This is. And it's why the crowd chanted their names instead.

Bryan Danielson vs. Will Ospreay (AEW Dynasty) This was better than the Takeshita match, but a lot of the same problems were there. Barely a minute after a top rope tiger suplex of all things, Ospreay is on his knees and calling for more strikes. Moments later, he's bouncing around. And then right at the end, after the stand-off spot where Ospreay beats Danielson to the punch, thirty minutes into a match that's had all sorts of big spots, Ospreay is firing up, fresh as a daisy, as if the match has just begun. Sure, there were times when they lay down and sold a move, but whenever they needed to hit a spot, there was nothing in their body language to tell me they'd been in a fight for twenty or however many minutes. Everything looked good (great!) in the moment, but none of it had any lasting impact. I think what hurts it as well is there's never any real momentum. I didn't latch onto any story at all. Danielson controlled more of it early on the mat, Ospreay would surprise him with his quickness, but it never went anywhere and after the Tiger Suplex in particular, it was just all moves for me. I get that in a "dream match" it's going to be somewhat back-and-forth, and as a one-off thing you don't have many places you can take the story, but I don't think either had any sustained control for even five minutes of a match that went over thirty. I don't think either got so much as three consecutive near falls on the other, and even two in a row wasn't that often. It got to a point where I knew a counter was coming ahead of time because it was the other's turn for a near fall, like a constant yo-yo. I've always been a maximalist, more is more guy. It's not the moves themselves that are the problem. Misawa/Kobashi 1/97 has as many moves as any match you're ever gonna see, but they transition, what, six or seven times in forty minutes? I wouldn't wanna count how many times this swung back and forth. It's just far too dizzying.

Will Ospreay vs Konosuke Takeshita (AEW Revolution 2024) I remember about twenty years ago I met a guy at a party. He was a classmate of a friend and I never met him again. But he had a schtick, a trick, where he could cry on cue. Like, full blown, tears streaming down his face, in a way any great actor would be proud of, and do it almost instantaneously. I don't know if he had a condition of some kind, but he didn't need to make himself upset, he certainly didn't need to pinch himself. I remember seeing him crying with a shit-eating grin, boasting about how he'd use it to pull girls. It was one of the weirdest damn things I've ever seen. I say this, because Will Ospreay reminds me of him. Ospreay is as athletic as anyone I've ever seen in a wrestling ring. His body control is actually freaky, and I'm wondering what he could have done had he spent his childhood training in gymnastics. Watching how he moved here, I cannot imagine him blowing a spot (although I'm sure he has). And it's not just the spins and twists, but his strikes looked really damn good, his superkicks looked right on the chin, etc etc. I'd honestly never even heard of Takeshita before this and he looks a very clean worker of this type himself, but Ospreay is genuinely awe-inspiring. But I didn't buy a single second of it. I'm not even sure if Ospreay himself buys into it. This is as close a match as I've ever seen to having zero selling. I mean, they made "ow" faces etc, but selling isn't just about selling any individual move, but about selling the match, selling that you're in a fight. This was wrestling with the curtain completely withdrawn. It reminds me of Penn and Teller's routine where they do the cups and balls with plastic see-through cups, and Penn is telling you how they're doing it, but their slight of hand is so fucking quick it still looks magical. The crowd didn't seem to care about that, of course, chanting "fight forever". They came to see flashy spots and they got flashy spots. At some point, AEW/etc crowds will realise "that's some cool shit" can be chanted to the same rhythm and will do away with any notion of "fight" in such matches. NB: This was on the same channel/feed as the Bryan/Kingston match and I thought it would make an interesting comparison to Bryan/Ospreay.

Bryan Danielson vs. Eddie Kingston (AEW Revolution 2024) This is the first time I've ever seen Kingston, although I've heard the name before. My first impression is that he's a bit weird. On the one hand, he obviously knows that he's not the athlete that even Danielson is, never mind Bucks, Omega, etc, and presents himself as a likeable everyman who'd otherwise be having fights in bars. But the flip side is - and I'd heard he's a big All Japan fan - so much of his offence here is obviously an homage to Kawada and Kobashi, and I'm not quite sure those two things go together. If he's gonna ape any top All Japan name with what I gather his character to be, then I'd go for Hansen, but maybe you get used to it in time. I can see where his popularity with the crowd comes from though. As for the match itself, I certainly understood what they were doing more than the tag match: Danielson is the better of the two, but Kingston has a lot of heart, perseveres, and when they end up in a (kind of) brawl, Kingston is able to edge it. The apron suplex seemed too big there, as I'm used to that being used as a much more pivotal spot and later in the match. When Kingston chopped the post, I flashed back to all those Danielson ROH matches where there was an accidental injury spot in seemingly every match, but I can run with the idea (as the commentator said) that he lured Kingston into it. The exploder seemed pretty big for a hope spot as well, but that's all it ended up being. Danielson was pretty clearly in control for most of the match and knew where I was. Overall, the match worked for me. It wasn't the most competitive looking match, but certainly better in that regard than the tag and Danielson always sells the match well. There was only really one poor sequence, where Kingston's hand is left there on the ground for Danielson to kick, and then Kingston was waiting around for the running knee. Both were so obvious I was expecting a possum spot. The finish was nice and quick, too. The story had been told and there was no reason to go into a bunch of near falls (I can imagine other matches on the show gave the crowd plenty of 2.9s). I think I missed something in the storyline when Danielson ending up in the strike exchange and the commentator said he'd diverted from his gameplan, but the transition worked well enough cold. I've no idea how this is considered among their (presumably several) matches together, it was simply the first video I found when I typed "Danielson Kingston" into Google.

Bret Hart vs. Mr Perfect (King of the Ring 1993) I decided to re-watch this match after the above tag as it's one I remember being a simple match but done exceptionally well. It's a glorious little match that I'd make obligatory viewing for any young wrestler. They start with clean wrestling, and whilst it's hardly RINGs, they work the headlocks and sell the competition. Bret gradually establishes himself as the better of the two, and Perfect gets progressively more frustrated. We see him hint at going for the hair several times, and eventually does. He then doesn't break clean off the ropes, and that's enough to take us into his first control. Hennig was never a great offensive wrestler, but I think he does a good job here of making sure that each move is that bit bigger than the previous one. He's selling his escalating frustration and also taking his time and everything is allowed to breathe. A detail of Bret's selling that stands out is his face. He's not demonstrative, he's selling for the front row / cameras, but he's never not selling, he's always in the moment and believing in what he's doing (or, rather, having done to him). A good example is when he gets up to superplex Perfect, and you have to pay attention to see his face, but he's grimacing, fighting. Bret makes his comeback after that and we end up with a nice contrast as Bret breaks his figure-four immediately whilst a short while later Perfect makes Hebner count to 4.5 before releasing his sleeper. Bret eventually makes his real comeback, running through Hennig's obligatory hairtoss payback spot (crotching the post) and his own signature spots before going for the Sharpshooter. At several times in the match (including at the very start), Bret's shook his left hand and whilst the comms have missed some of the details, they've noticed the finger injury. He does the same thing here right before going for the Sharpshooter. Hennig, of course, rips at the fingers to thwart it. They protect the PerfectPlex, going into the suplex over the ropes to the floor, and back inside Hennig plays possum for the inside cradle, which Bret counters and takes the win. * Other than maybe the suplex to the floor, there's not a single spot here they couldn't do every night and take this exact match around the horn. It's a perfect (NPI) example of the face-face structure with one gradually turning more and more heelish and eventually meeting his comeuppance. Their timing was a little off in the early exchanges, but I feel I'd be nit-picking if I emphasised that. Anyone who's seen them work before would recognise their staple spots (especially Hennig's), but they fit them into what they were doing. I knew exactly what they were doing at times and it felt like watching the world's best rom-com because it's all so predictable but done so very well. Other than maybe Bret slapping on a leglock when Perfect had already escalated the intensity, every choice made sense to me, and even that led to Perfect taking another cheap shot by legdropping his way out of it. This was a beautiful, simple wrestling match.

Also, as I'm so out of the loop, I'd welcome any match suggestions. I've read about a Danielson/Ospreay match from earlier this year and will try to watch that. I had a quick look in the "Matches" folder and saw that I never got around to writing up my thoughts on Misawa/Kobashi 10/98, so I'll throw that on as well for comparison.

So, let's begin: Kenny Omega/Adam Page vs The Young Bucks (AEW Revolution 2020) The video I'm watching includes the pre-match video package, where I gather the story went that they were all friends, some dissension arose on Adam Page's end, which only grew as he developed a drinking habit. Omega remained good friends with the Bucks, but the Bucks didn't like that Omega and Page pipped them to the tag titles. Both said video and the announces put over that Omega and Page have some dissension themselves, or are at any rate nowhere near as "together" as the Bucks. Omega starts out with Nick Jackson, they run through a sequence that's a bit too cute for me, in a Dragon Gate sort of style, but establishing that there's no real issue between them, and they're gonna fight pretty clean with each other. The story kicks in when Page gets in with Matt Jackson: again, I'm not really buying into them competing with each other, but Page spits in his face and they have a little pull apart, with Nick Jackson coming in to calm his brother down. The Bucks soon roll off a bunch of quick double team spots, a bit too conveniently but I guess that's part of the style (and, to be fair, they all look impressive athletically), and then Page targets Matt's back injury to take over. He throws him outside and is going to powerbomb him through the timekeeper's table and Omega comes around to throw Matt in the ring, telling Page to keep it clean. Omega is happy, however, to join Page in targeting the injury, and they work over it for a few minutes before Matt tags his brother. At this point, I'm not really getting much re: face/heel. That section on the back felt a bit too short for me as well. When Nick comes in, he begins rolling off a whole list of flashy stuff in very quick succession, which is again, for my tastes, all a bit too cute. Some are so quick that they work, but others look that bit too choreographed. We settle into a control segment on Kenny, and at this point I'm not really sure where they're going with it. The dissension seems to have gone, Matt isn't antagonising Page, and it feels like just a generic tag match. They do some cool-looking double teams, but the action seems to yo-yo between quick flashy spots in quick succession and basic rest holds and strikes. After a few minutes, Page gets tagged in and rattles off his own run of spots that kind of mirror what Nick Jackson did, but I'm not sure if that's deliberate or not. The action keeps escalating from there, as in the spots keep getting bigger and eventually into near falls, but I'm not getting any cohesive story following on from the opening. It just feels like a very back and forth juniors "action" match. There's nothing more on Matt's back either, nor am I getting any difference in how the Bucks work vs Kenny (a friend) and Page (not a friend?). The work is enjoyable enough and it's all very athletic and clean (if not so believable). There's only two spots that are, for me, poorly done. The first is when Nick is going for the rope walk hurricanrana, gets pushed onto the ramp (backflipping) and comes back in with a slingshot Canadian Destroyer. Page just drops his head to take the move. The second is when Kenny does his rolling fireman's carry -> moonsault spot, jumping onto the corner where Nick is crotched and Nick does a poor job at selling that he's trying to grab for Kenny but can't. As we move into the near falls, Kenny rolls off two snap dragons and a double-underhook piledriver on Nick for a near fall. He puts him on the top rope and Nick counters with a reverse rana. This is where the style feels too back and forth for me. Page tries to get back in and Matt takes him onto the ramp where he gives him three Northern Lights suplexes up the ramp and then the Bucks hit him with a Meltzer driver on the ramp. At this point, the Bucks now have Kenny on his own and Matt suddenly reverts to the short-tempered character we saw at the start, ripping the tape off Omega's shoulder and stomping on the injury and Nick is calming him down. They have a couple of near falls on Kenny before Page is back (way too quickly) and is slingshotting himself around the ring with the rope flip clothesline and eventually one of those is enough to get the pin. * As I guess I've outlined throughout that, I struggled to make sense of much of what I was watching. The action was enjoyable. These guys are all super athletic and even if they don't look like they're fighting for the moves, the overwhelming majority of spots look good. But other than the opening section and a bit at the end, I couldn't connect the dots on whatever the story was. It felt to me, as I said, like a longer all-action flashy/junior/Dragon Gate-style match. Another problem for me is that a number of their big moves, like the Meltzer Driver, 450, Page's slingshot clothesline, etc, require them to suddenly have a surge of energy when they've all been hit with a shitload of big moves so the selling is quite up and down. You can't really hit a springboard/slingshot anything with fatigued body language, y'know? But, no, as I said at the outset, this isn't designed for me to shit on matches or anything like that. If anyone is a big fan of the match, knows more about how these guys work, etc, and can help me fill in the blanks, then please let me know.

I used to be a regular poster here, but it's been years since I was following wrestling with any regularity. I moved abroad for work in 2015 and bar the very odd match that got exceptional praise (Omega/Okada, for example), you could count on your fingers how many matches (never mind full shows) I've watched since. And when I do, there's often something (or several things) that leave me a little lost. I just never seem to be on the same page or connect with what I'm watching. My brother recently watched several of the big '90s All Japan matches for the first time, and I decided to do so too. They still work for me as much as they ever did. So, what I'm hoping to do here is watch recent matches (ie since I stopped following wrestling regularly), see what works for me and what doesn't, and throw in some re-watches of older matches for comparison's sake. If anyone wants to jump in with comments, fill me in on some of the backstory, or say why the match works for you etc, then please feel free.

I think the decision for Cody to work was, on balance, probably the correct one. According to the video I've seen from a doctor, the chances of him further aggravating the injury were very slim; essentially if he didn't perform any major lifts with his right arm, he'd be fine. He was also in there with Seth who, for all the things I (/we) might criticise him for as a worker, is technically superb and would be one of the safest guys on the roster to work such a match with. You've also got to factor in how visual the injury is: this isn't a neck issue, a knee issue, or, God forbid, a concussion issue; this was the chance to have the most viscerally "legit" WWE match since, what, when Eddy cut himself too deep? This was the best chance for his Austin bleeding in the sharpshooter moment, and you just don't pass that up. However, Jerome is absolutely right about the glorification of it. It's fine to work through an injury (for a short period to get to a major match and then do the angle) if you can take care of yourself, which they did. But the glorification of it is what leads to people forcing their way through a match when they can't do it safely and when there isn't such a great image to really connect their injury with the audience. It's similar to how the danger is not in Cody working this match: he will have had an injection and coupling that with the adrenaline won't have been in any significant pain during it. The real danger vis a vis Cody's health is after he gets this surgery: the medication he will take during his rehab is far more addictive, and thus dangerous, than the injection he took for the match, and if he comes back too soon whilst still on (or weaning himself off) the painkillers... well, we know that story. * As for the match itself... I thought it was fine. But I don't think the match lived up to the injury, or they truly milked it for all it was worth. I think it's telling that the image of the match is Cody's reveal, not him in some torturous submission hold that, say, Danielson would've gone the route of. There really shouldn't be a single photo from the match where Cody is not at least grimacing and I felt some of his offence came a bit too easy. I get that modern wrestling is going to be more back-and-forth than I would like, but this really feels like the kind of match where you need those longer periods of control for Seth and really sit in the drama of it. And as a final aside, dear God that camerawork is awful.

This could warrant its own thread, and I could have written it in the relevant match thread but since it's something I'd rather hear people's opinions on: I rewatched Misawa/Kobashi 10/98 the other night, and what struck me the most in comparison to great modern matches is the structure. They went 42 minutes and transitioned five times. They had some "back and forth" sequences, but it was always clear who was in control of the match, and either that person won, or the other won and that was the start of their own lengthy control: Kobashi then Misawa, repeated just three times over those 40+ minutes. The final 12 minutes or so of near falls are 4/5 minutes for Kobashi, the apron spot, and then it's all Misawa save for a token desperation lariat that's not even really a true near fall for Kenta. A great modern match will go back and forth significantly more, especially down the stretch. I'm just curious if anyone else has had a similar experience watching an older "big, action" match after having watched predominantly contemporary stuff.

Suplex-12 posted (in the Necro thread) a handheld of a six man from Cologne in 2010 with Bret, Harry Smith and TJ against Nexus and I felt compelled to add a comment on it here because it really is a glorious example of how to protect and work around a guy in Bret's condition. Given that all the other guys in the match will have looked up to Bret, it figures that he was the one dictating his spots and I'm giving him the credit for it. You want to get Bret in early as a nice pop, so they do the time-tested rotating wristlet spot that every baby face team has done countless times. Bret then throws in an arm drag, drops a knee on the arm and gets out. But what's really clever is the end. (Incidentally, I just watched Bret's spots and skipped through the rest). Obviously, TJ took the heat and Bret can't do a hot tag, so right before that, Heath Slater cheapshots him, Harry does the hot tag, and then Bret gets back in thirty seconds later after tripping Heath from outside. Because of the cheap shot, it makes perfect sense for Bret now to just throw punches, run Heath's forehead across the top rope, and basically "brawl". He can't do the leg sweep or drop the elbow from the second rope, and even his back breaker would be a bad idea on his knees, so he lifts Heath for it, Heath gouges free, there's a cheap bump on Gabriel and Heath walks into an atomic drop, facing Bret, because that variant means Heath puts no weight on Bret when he lands (unlike the other way around) and falls perfectly into position for the Sharpshooter and that's the match. Nothing there strikes you as terribly clever at first glance, and it's not like anyone was expecting Bret to do a great deal (he was in for ninety seconds at most), but, it's actually a great example of hiding an older wrestler's physical condition in a natural way that makes sense within the match so that his limitations, whilst there of course, are not nearly as obvious as they otherwise could be. Nobody is gonna say that Bret was (or would have been had he done a longer run) awesome in 2010, but the guy was still an incredibly smart, detail-focused worker. And when Kingston or anyone else talks about picking up "little things" from Bret, well, I hope it's exactly this sort of thing. He's the best agent they never had.

I hardly have the time to get to watch any wrestling these days, but I did watch Omega/Danielson. It was an excellent TV match and I liked how much restraint they showed, in leaving a lot of room for "escalation" in future matches. On the subject of Omega's goofiness, I'm somewhat in the middle. But what particularly blew me away was the dragon suplex on the ramp. That's, obviously, an incredibly risky spot, but how Omega managed to make that look painful whilst at the same time protecting Danielson as much as could be possible on such a spot was astounding. Whatever issues one might have with his performance generally, he has un-fucking-believable technique.

Tag League The Best Finals: December 10th, 1994 Before we get to the matches themselves, it's worth my pointing out that all three teams involved in the tie had already worked a match on this show: Kyoko and Hasegawa had beaten Yamada and Hotta, and Toyota and Takako had beaten Aja and Reggie (Toyota pinning the latter). It would be, at least for me, more interesting if we had at least those matches to see how they (assuming they did, but it figures as such) mixed things up. Anyway... Aja Kong/Reggie Bennett vs. Kyoko Inoue/Sakie Hasegawa You'd think, given the size differences and the fact that they'd just lost to bring on this round-robin play-off, that Aja (in particular) and Reggie would look to dominate this early and make a statement, but it's actually quite back and forth. Nothing much to say about it, really; it's worked as if they expected it to be cut up on TV/tape. Aja Kong/Reggie Bennett vs. Manami Toyota/Takako Inoue This is worked closer to what I expected the first match to be: Takako doesn't enter the match for the first five minutes and it's all about the monsters working over Toyota; when she does make it in, she's quickly dominated too. Takako gets a breakthrough working Aja's leg, but that doesn't go anywhere once Toyota comes back in. Typical back and froth down the stretch and Toyota actually beats Aja with that evil looking leg clutch off the top. This, naturally, gets a massive pop. Manami Toyota/Takako Inoue vs. Kyoko Inoue/Sakie Hasegawa With Takako and Sakie switched, these would have a super match the following August. This is fine for what it is, each team's third match of the night, but the finish is interesting. Takako just randomly snaps, and nodowas both Kyoko and Sakie off the apron to the floor, then sets them both on a table (on top of each other) and Toyota splashes them from the post to the floor. That looked especially rough for Sakie, who was on the bottom. Kyoko eventually kicks out, tries to get a bit of offence, but it doesn't go anywhere and Toyota takes it home. Another show for collectors this (it's sold with the December 23rd Korakuen show which I'll watch later), but a perfectly enjoyable 45 minutes. There are clips afterwards of a tour they did in Bali (per the WON, they had 20 local "prospects" in attendance who were put off by how rough the style was). This would actually be interesting to have seen a bit more of: they're working in a kickboxing ring, with four ropes (ropes, not cables, and loose), the ring inside sounds hard as hell (there's a dull thud with every bump), plus it being an exhibition of sorts, they're doing a lot more roll ups and strikes rather than bumps; it's the type of thing I'm always curious to see how they cope with it.

By the end of 94, a lot of things had run their course, and where to go from there? As I mentioned at the start, I'll be keeping an eye on attendances and such like, going through old WONs, but my thought on that has always been that they were looking for the quick pops, a kind of desperate Russoism, especially in Toyota's first win.

Hey guys, Been forever since I was on here as the reality is I've been caught up in so many different things I just haven't had much time to watch any wrestling, save the odd match here and there for nostalgia and so on. But as I'm back in the UK for a month, in quarantine for this week and next, and in the process of copying my DVDs over onto an external hard drive, I thought I'd set myself a little "project" to watch. Back in the day I was one of the Joshi "defenders", but whereas the majority of my men's DVDs are on YouTube, etc, I guess Zenjo et al lost their popularity just before those platforms took off and there's far less of it out there. And when there used to be more discussion of Joshi, Big Egg tended to be the last recommended show. Obviously the same group of girls continued to be there until 1997, and as there's no reason to think they suddenly dropped off a cliff in talent after that show, I've decided I'm going to watch all the AJW tapes I have from after Big Egg, at least until the end of 1995. I don't have the TVs, but I do have all the comms. I'll be skipping the rookies (for the most part) and the midgets. Anyway: WRESTLEMARINEPIAD '94 EX: December 4th, 1994 What's interesting about this show right off the bat is that the building is only 60% full (at most), with the WON reporting an attendance of 3,200 in a building for 5,000. Bearing in mind that Big Egg was only a fortnight prior, it caught me a bit by surprise. Something to keep an eye on, I guess. Reggie Bennett/Rie Tamada vs. Suzuka Minami/Tomoko Watanabe Predictable undercard fare, this. When Reggie is in, she dominates; when Tamada is in, she gets beaten up. Reggie's power stuff looks fine, some of it (including the finish) rather good and impactful, but whenever they ask her to do more complicated sequences involving rope-running and whatnot it's clear that that's not her thing. Tamada sells quite well here, but she hasn't got much more to offer (an unfair comparison, perhaps, but the girls who debuted in the late 80s were all much further along after three years). As for Minami (who'd retire the following May) and Tomoko, it's clearly a minor match for them. Etsuko Mita/Mima Shimoda vs. Mariko Yoshida/Kaoru Ito It's always strange to see Shimoda so shy and reserved in her pre-match interview and then go out to the ring and be very vocal the whole time. Ito is actually the opposite. Yoshida is easily the smoothest of the four here, but wouldn't find her own niche until several years later. My memory of LCO in this period is they had parts of their act down, but it wasn't until 97 when they became the complete package. There's a sequence here where they look as if they're about to turn this into a brawl, and then the match, bizarrely, just resets. Ito snaps after the match, drags Shimoda into the crowd, throws a few chairs on her...then walks away and Shimoda returns to the ring. Weird. This could have been one of those "interesting in hindsight" matches, but was merely OK. Manami Toyota vs. Blizzard Yuki Hasegawa (Yuki) is coming off a disastrous "debut" at Big Egg. She was always one of my favourites, but the gimmick did her no favours as her style was that bit more technical and she didn't have the flamboyance to "charismate" through the mask. It was dropped soon enough. As for this match, they were trying to elevate Hasegawa, and she countered a lot of Toyota's stuff (I don't think Manami strung together even three moves at any point), but the result was the match felt somewhat disjointed. One of the problems of Toyota in a singles match was she had so many cool moves, that there's a good chance she'll show up any opponent who can't match her (one of the reasons I preferred her matches with Kyoko was that she had just as much shit). The more matwork based approach works as "Sakie Hasegawa", the younger girl maintaining control however she can, etc; not so much here, when "Blizzard Yuki" is trying to prove herself. Still a perfectly good match and whilst the draw was somewhat telegraphed by the end, they kept it entertaining. Lioness Asuka/Kyoko Inoue vs. Toshiyo Yamada/Takako Inoue Another weird match this. As best I can remember, Asuka only returned at Big Egg a couple of weeks before, so I would have expected the other three to be extra pumped to work with one of their idols. Actually the match is very much of a "the bloom is off the rose of Asuka's comeback" sort, to the point where I Googled her retirement and comeback. Anyway, the match goes little over ten minutes, following the predictable patterns. I should point out that even in this "house show" format, Kyoko comfortably looks the best of the four with both the best offensive variation and execution. Aja Kong vs. Yumiko Hotta (Red Belt) Hotta comes into this with her knee all taped up (actually not the only one), and Aja goes after it with a brutality that dwarfs anything else on the show; she even removes the gate from the guard rail and uses that to bash Hotta's knee, a spot I can't recall seeing before. It's a squash for the first ten minutes, save the odd hope spot for Hotta (kicks, naturally, which Aja feeds her head right into). To be fair, the crowd are more into Hotta here than they'd been behind anybody else all night. Aja does pop the crowd with a well done false KO spot, which leads into something of a back-and-forth home stretch. Hotta actually kicks out of the first uraken, and a second one promptly ends it. With Hotta's injury, about as good a match as they could have had here. Their match was back in January. Overall, a perfectly watchable show, but definitely one for collectors rather than casuals.

First of all, hey back at you guys. In hindsight, I probably should have watched it with the English commentary. I know Callis in particular is pretty close with Kenny and would therefore assume he'd be clued in on exactly what they were going for and be able to fill in a few of the gaps (when I first became confused during the second fall, I thought Omega must've worked several matches where taking too many risks had cost him and one of his big talking points leading into this match was how, whatever happens, it was essential for him to keep his cool). I also absolutely agree with gordi in that there is no one way to work a match and for those of you who've been around a long time, you might me remember I've been more effusive than most on Zenjo (the Toyota/Kyoko series in particular), and a variety of other things that don't follow some "AJ is the only way" thing. That being said, I'm not sure how I feel about, for lack of a better word, episodic matches. I remember a discussion back in 2004-2005 (I forget exactly which board but I want to say Smark's Choice) when ROH was the rage, specifically the Joe-Punk series, "learned psychology" was a big thing, and someone brought in a lengthy quote of Roger Ebert's, talking about John Travolta dancing in a film for the sake of having him dance and it didn't fit into the story of the film. That's a different thing, but my point then still applies in this case: I do feel that matches should be first and foremost self-contained, and work on their own. But again, that's as much because the first thing my brain does in just about every match I watch is try to latch onto the roles of the guys involved, who is the favourite/underdog/face/heel, who's coming into the match with the momentum, who do they want me to root for, etc... it's an (at times) unfortunately analytical approach (the fact I've spent the past three years learning Russian hasn't helped to curb my more mildly-autistic tendencies), but it's why I've always gravitated towards the thought out or the thoughtless. Forgive the self analysis, but one of my main reactions to this match was to look at how I watch wrestling and why this match didn't work for me as well as it has for most other people (Cena/Punk in Chicago was another example of that, but for all the praise that received, it pales to this).

Yes and no. You always knew Misawa was going to make a comeback of sorts, no matter how bad a situation he was in. And it hurt several matches insomuch as, if Misawa hadn't got a certain amount of shit in, you knew it wasn't ending. But I can't remember any particular instance of them working from presumptions/preconceptions in the way I guess you're implying: they always established in the match what you needed to know. If someone comes into this Okada/Omega cold, where's the overcoming-the-odds arc for Kenny? If Okada is so strong, why couldn't he muster a prolonged period of dominance and kick Kenny's ass for a while? If anything, the fact that Okada essentially fluked the first fall, got cocky and did nothing much with it, and Kenny came back quite comfortably to win the second, isn't that giving the first-timer the opposite impression?