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I think you can cite general trends. Also Id be curious to see exactly what elements of the match he praised. Like I said, some of those AAA matches are great, just for a lot more reasons than the ones he tended to focus on.

The biggest, flashiest, dumbest wrestling possible (to the point that he misses so much nuance in even the stuff he watches). 100% Michael Bay.

That six man was what jumped out to me too. Maybe the Narcissist match too. I know Ive never seen that.

Hey, I hope I can enjoy this stuff that much when I'm almost 60?

It's not an entirely new notion either. I was a teenager during ECW's heyday and I got to go to a show right around my 18th birthday in 1999 in Boston. It felt like a big deal that I got to see ECW, even then. Likewise, it felt like a big deal when ROH came to Boston for the first time, like I got to be part of this wave that was happening. So I get the notion, especially for someone who is 16-25. it's just expanded due to the rise of social media. The fact that Bullet Club shirts have made it into Hot Topic and are probably scraping up against the idea of being socially acceptable (while still being hip and elitist in some way) plays into it too. It's not like walking around with a Randy Orton shirt on. "No, this is different." Again, this is them tapping into something as tangible as Watts using JYD to tap into something in 1981 or whatever.

I think there are a lot of people who self-identity very heavily with pro wrestling, who want to feel like they are part of something, and who have a decent amount of disposable income without strong responsibility-driven drains upon their time and money. I don't think this is a crazy notion. I certainly wouldn't bet against you.

I increasingly think they should do something like that around a big UK show. They could probably charge a million bucks for the tickets and the UK fans would gobble that up. Bulldogs (or at least DBS), Johnny Saint, Lord Alfred Hayes, Regal, (I was going to say Haystacks Calhoun but he's already in). Maybe Big Daddy? Finlay? Does Haystacks Calhoun have some UK ties I'm not aware of or were you thinking of Giant Haystacks/Loch Ness? I hired the one wrong legged guy. As for what Stiva said? I'm not even sure how to deal with it. Trips is MUCH more inclined to put in Johnny Saint who he had Regal talk him into being a guest trainer at the Performance Center than anyone who's wrestled in the UK in the last 20 years. It doesn't matter what UK wrestling fans of the last twenty years would know.

I increasingly think they should do something like that around a big UK show. They could probably charge a million bucks for the tickets and the UK fans would gobble that up. Bulldogs (or at least DBS), Johnny Saint, Lord Alfred Hayes, Regal, (I was going to say Haystacks Calhoun but he's already in). Maybe Big Daddy? Finlay?

I've seen TM61 live but they were against AoP so I don't have a great sense of their size. Are they good candidates for the Cruiserweight tag titles that are being rumored?

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They could do Undertaker related people. From the streak alone: Sid. Bundy. Albert (for NXT as much as anything). Henry. Maybe Bruce Prichard too as Brother Love. And Michelle McCool to boot.

And he is going to do some amazingly stupid things in that match.

I wouldnt blink if Droese got in.

A better question is who doesnt deserve to get in? Whats the limit? John Morrison? Koslov? The Beverly Brothers?

Hey, I'm all for people shattering conventional wisdom with actual footage evidence.

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I'm currently networkless but it's very weird to me how much more into this than the Mid-Atlantic stuff you guys are.

Ok, so to take stock, we've got fxnj off, Tim Evans off, Jmare and Edgar back in. Anyone else?

I have fond memories of his time in the York Foundation as "Hillwilliam James" Gordi....

Theyre going to fly extra guys in for this? Weird.

Sure, So I didn't participate but their rubric was this: N: Nuance (Longevity, Flexibility, Intangibles) J: Jump Up Factor (Memorable Peak Matches, Moments and Storylines) P: Promo Skills & Character Work W: Workrate At which point, in ring work itself shows up in the N (can they work a bunch of different sort of matches/different roles, plus all sort of intangibles stuff), the J (peak matches and moments within matches, plus paid off storylines in ring), P (how well did they portray their character through their ringwork), and obviously W. But a whole bunch of other stuff crops up too. How many memorable moments does a guy like Jericho have? The debut, the promo on Steph, the HHH dusty finish, the tag with Benoit against Austin/HHH, the turn on Rock, winning the unified title, getting turned on by Trish, and on, and on, and on, and on. How about his flexibility? How he changed his character? He's reinvented himself a ton of times and it's worked more often than not. And so on. He definitely does better on this rubric than if it was just the work alone.

Jericho does wildly better on the GWWE NJPW scale than on some GWE footage analysis scale.