Loss Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Vote for the team that you feel had the best run as a tag team from 1985 to 2005. Voting will last approximately 24 hours and the winner of each match will advance to the second round. Because the goal of the tournament is to promote discussion, please feel free to explain how you came to your decision as much as possible. Match #1 - 3 Count v Jung Dragons Match #2 - Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes v Los Guerreros Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust v Nasty Boys Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Natural Disasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 3 Count v. Jung Dragons - Man, this one is tough because both teams are linked together in WCWs dark years. Hmmm... dancing with Tank Abbott or kung-fu fighting with Ernest Miller? I'm going with kung-fu fighting JUNG DRAGONS Windham & Rhodes vs. Los Guerreros - To be honest, I think the Guerreros are better at fighting each other than fighting together. Windham and Rhodes seem like such a natural fit. WINDHAM & RHODES Booker T & Goldust vs. Nasty Boys - It would be real easy to pick the NAsty Boys but I think Booker T and Goldust had so much charisma and more potential as a team than the fed gave them credit for. I will not penalize them for politics and bad writing. The Nastys had decent runs in both companies but I never cared for him. It doesn't help that their peak was when my interest in wrestling was at an all-time low. BOOKER T & GOLDUST Benoit & Jericho vs. Natural Disasters - I am going on workrate here so Benoit & Jericho is a no-brainer but, again, BEnoit & Jericho are better opponents than teammates. . However, I don't know if I have seen a more physically imposing team than the Disasters. Still, they don't deserve to shine the Canadians' shoes. BENOIT & JERICHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Match #1 - 3 Count v Jung Dragons This is a tough one, since most of their best matches seemed to come against each other. So, which team stood out more? I guess you have to look at the participants in each match? They each had an albatross to bear -- the Dragons had Jimmy Yang and 3 Count had Evan Karagias. Yang is far better than Karagias so the Dragons get the edge there. Then, look at each team's best worker. 3 Count had Helms and the Dragons had Jamie Noble. In this case, Helms edged out Noble for contributions to his team, although Noble would shine brighter after going on his own and it's hard to say which guy outworked the other one in the final months of WCW. Between Kaz Hayashi and Shannon Moore, I have to give the nod to Kaz Hayashi. Very close, very tough, but in the end, I think the choice is the only one I can make. Jung Dragons Match #2 - Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes v Los Guerreros Here's where the word "potential" comes into play. Los Guerreros had the potential to be a great tag team over the long haul while Windham and Rhodes *were* a great tag team over the long haul. Eddy's always great, but it took him some time to find his groove again after his comeback, and it didn't really happen to the fullest until he went solo, turned babyface and became a headliner. Windham and Rhodes were about as ready-made as a team can be. They had what stands as a true candidate for the best WCW match of all-time teaming against Steve Austin and Larry Zbyszko at SuperBrawl II. They had great matches against the Dangerous Alliance for the entirety of 1992 and won the tag titles in another fantastic match against the MVC that fall. I also liked the vet/youngster dynamic they had going, and I think they were better at working the crowd. They also benefitted from better, more consistent booking. To me, Windham & Rhodes are the true darkhorses of this tournament, in that they're one of the best tag teams of the 90s, but they don't often get credit for what they were able to do and for the matches they had, just because 1992 WCW had so much great going for it that not everything got the recognition it deserved. Eddy and Chavo could have been better over the long haul, considering the talent level of the duo, but they never hit that level, and their peaks were nowhere near as high as those of the Windham/Rhodes duo. Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust v Nasty Boys Speaking of lost tag teams, Bookerdust were *on fire* in 2002. Had really good matches with just about every team they faced, and they managed to get Booker T over as a credible singles star for the first time in WWE. They had great chemistry both in the ring and on the mic, and their run briefly revitalized Dustin Rhodes in a year when no one expected him to come back so strong. I don't want to totally write off the Nasties either, though, as they were really good brawlers and their best match (Steiners, Halloween Havoc '90) far surpasses the best Bookerdust match (Vitamin C, RAW 12/23/02). That said, the Nasties have had some stinkers too, and I don't remember Booker T & Goldust having anything that was horrible. The Nasties were also able to have some really spirited brawls with Cactus Jack and his partner du jour at any given moment, and they didn't have their legs cut off with the frequency that the Bookerdust duo did. It's a stalemate for me, so I'm going to flip a coin. Nasty Boys -- and I better not come back and edit this because I'll probably change my mind a million times today Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Natural Disasters This is the easiest pick of the first four matches for me, if only because I can point to at least one good match the Canadians have had. Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teke184 Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Match #1 - 3 Count v Jung Dragons Jung Dragons in a tough one, as Evan Karagias sinks 3 Count while the Dragons didn't have a weak member. Match #2 - Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes v Los Guerreros Los Guerreros because it launched Eddy into a ME slot after languishing in the midcard for some time. Barry and Dustin had good matches as a tag team but it didn't have a huge long-term effect. Barry's career was pretty much over after his run with Dustin while Dustin's career went into a tailspin until he reinvented himself as Goldust. Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust v Nasty Boys Booker T and Goldust in a walk. Bookerdust had a grassroots following that turned into one of the biggest things on RAW without being pushed by the office. The Nasty Boys had a few good matches with the Steiners, Harts, and combos involving Cactus Jack, but they had a HUGE number of years where they were garbage wrestlers who subtracted from the card rather than adding to it. Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Natural Disasters Benoit and Jericho in a walk. The Natural Disasters may have been over but, at the end of the day, they were just two fat guys squashing smaller talent. See also "Twin Towers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brian Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 I'll edit this later with text. Jung Dragons. Windham & Rhodes. Booker T & Goldust. Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Match #1 - 3 Count v Jung Dragons Yung Dragons To be honest, I didn't really like either team that much. The Jung Dragons had Jamie Knoble and didn't have a shitty dancing gimmick though. Match #2 - Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes v Los Guerreros Los Guerreros Ugh. Eddie Guerrero is why I'm voting this way. Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust v Nasty Boys The Nasty Boys ...because they were a real tag team. Not just two randomly slapped together single workers. Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Natural Disasters The Natural Disasters ...for the same reason that I picked the Nasty Boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Actually, for the Natural Disasters, you could argue that they were two random guuys thrown together since both were just singles guys. You change the name Tugboat to Typhoon and *poof*, a real tag team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Match #1 - Jung Dragons Match #2 - Los Guerreros Tough choice here. I went with Los Guerreros because I think they've become underrated. For some reason Hass & Benjamin from the same era get far more attention, despite being the lesser team. Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust Every time I've seen a Nastys match, I've been disappointed. I thought their "great" brawls with Cactus Jack were decidedly mediocre. Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho Easy pick based on talent, even if I think they haven't done enough to be in the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alfdogg Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Jung Dragons Windham & Rhodes Nasty Boys Benoit & Jericho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Match #1 - 3 Count v Jung Dragons Match #2 - Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes v Los Guerreros Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust v Nasty Boys Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Natural Disasters 1. Jung Dragons2. Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes 3. Booker T & Goldust 4. Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Match #1 - 3 Count v Jung Dragons The Dragons. I like Noble more than any of the 3 Count guys. Match #2 - Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes v Los Guerreros Guerreros. Just because of Eddy. If Eddy wasn't so much better than Windham and Dustin then I would go with them. Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust v Nasty Boys Bookerdust. I never really cared for the Nasty Boys. Booker and Goldust were good in the ring and great on the mic. Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Natural Disasters Come on, now. Benoit and Jericho by a large margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Match #1 - 3 Count v Jung Dragons Match #2 - Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes v Los Guerreros Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust v Nasty Boys Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Natural Disasters Match #1 -- Yikes, this is when after a streak of watching WCW constantly for 10 years I stopped watching as much. Uh, the Jung Dragons I guess. Match #2 - Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes v Los Guerreros Los Guerreros just because I dug their matches against Benoit/Angle along with TWGTT. Whindam and Rhodes are a fine tag team as well though. This was very close. LOS GUERREROS Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust v Nasty Boys Booker T and Goldust were more consistent and no doubt safer to work with in the ring but I'm just too big a fan of some of the Nasty Boys' better stuff. Against the Steiners, Scorpio/Bagwell among others. NASTY BOYS Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Natural Disasters Benoit and Jericho as not only did I enjoy several of their matches but I enjoyed the storylines surrounding them at the time. The former enimies who are now friends battle the odds to survive one more night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Match #1 - 3 Count v Jung Dragons I'm repeating what many have already said, but this may be one of the closest first-round matches we have. Like many others, I'm going with the Jung Dragons, just because I think their time as a team may be the best moment for each member, whereas for 3 Count, it's arguable, especially for Shane Helms, who faced better times in January-March 2001, when he received his greatest push ever during WCW's final days. I also think the Jung Dragons had a greater gimmick than 3 Count, which was also a gimmick that has been done many times. Loss did a great job breaking down the members of each team, which I agree with. Jung Dragons Match #2 - Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes v Los Guerreros I remember watching Windham/Rhodes on many occasions on WCW Saturday Night and Worldwide right after I lost interest in the WWF at the time and enjoying them around my early-teens. Since I wasn't too much into the science of tag team wrestling (or wrestling in general) as much as I am now, I really wish I had copies of these matches now, because I have a hunch I'd be really getting into them now. It was at that time when I had a good amount of exposure to WCW for the first time, and I really liked their greater focus on wrestling in comparison to the WWF. Windham & Rhodes were a great example of it, as even as a kid, I got into their tag matches quite a lot. As for Los Guerreros, Chavo & Eddie are, as we all know, great workers, but their tag matches were never masterpieces and I've seen far better from other teams. Did I see better matches from Windham/Rhodes? Possibly. But I think the fair way to judge this was how much I was into the tag matches of Windham/Rhodes, whereas I haven't been as much for Los Guerreros, in spite of being a fan of both guys. Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust v Nasty Boys The Nasty Boys win on longevity, but that's all they win out in, as even their better stuff doesn't hold up anymore (I recently watched Spring Stampede 94 versus Cactus Jack/Maxx Payne, and maybe it's because the garbage style has been so overdone since, but I couldn't get into it. I have similar feelings over Benoit/Sullivan at GAB 96). I was a huge fan of Booker T and Goldust, and their matches showed how well Dustin Rhodes can still lay out tag matches. It's a shame they had such a short run, because they could've helped revive one of the tag divisions, as opposed to Booker T being made HHH's bitch at WrestleMania XIX. Booker T & Goldust Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Natural Disasters This one is a no-brainer, even though I don't think the Canadian Chris' tag win over Austin/HHH doesn't hold up much as a great match anymore. They still have TLC III to their credit, which is one better match than the Disasters have had. Much like Booker T & Goldust, it's too bad Benoit & Jericho didn't have a much longer run, although injuries to Benoit certainly factored into that. Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunter's Torn Quad Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Jung Dragons What others have said. Plus, they were more solid workers. Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes I liked them more. And I hated those racist vignettes Los G. Booker T & Goldust Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho In both of these cases, the other teams were just so beyond horrible, that I can't vote for them, no matter their credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Piss Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Match #1 - 3 Count Match #2 - Los Guerreros Match #3 - Booker T & Goldust Match #4 - Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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