goodhelmet Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 This is a direct challenge to Dylan MF'N Waco. I think the WON award for Best Brawler is the Bruiser Brody Award. If it isn't, fuck it. I thnk we can safely make a list of 100 better brawlers who are more deserving of the award. I'll get the list started with some Mid South and Memphis guys... 1. Dick Murdoch2. Ted Dibiase3. Buzz Sawyer4. Hacksaw Duggan5. Butch Reed6. Jerry Lawler7. Bill Dundee8. Dutch Mantel9 & 10. The Moondogs Edit : Merry Xmas Everyone !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 I want to call it the Tupelo Concession Stand Brawl Award Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 11. The Fabulous Ones 12. Dennis Condrey 13. Phil Hickerson 14. Koko Ware 15. Randy Savage 16. Jackie Fargo 17. Eddie Gilbert 18. Tommy Rich 19. Norvell Austin 20. Stan Hansen 21. Fit Finlay 22. William Regal 23. Cactus Jack 24. Austin Idol 25. Bam Bam Bigelow 26. Bob Sweetan 27. Terry Funk 28. Dick Slater 29. Kazunari Murakami 30. Perro Aguayo 31. Villano III 32. El Hijo del Santo 33. L.A. ParK 34. Sangre Chicana 35. MS-1 36. El Dandy 37. El Satanico 38. Atsushi Onita 39. Tarzan Goto 40. Masashi Aoyagi 41. Jushin Liger 42. Gedo 43. Jado 44. Arn Anderson 45. Dusty Rhodes 46. Dustin Rhodes 47. Jimmy Golden 48. Jeff Jarrett 49. Billy Travis I'm tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 50.Johnathon Boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Oh come on this isn't even hard. I'm watching my wife wrap last second gifts while my brother laughs his ass off at National Lampoon and I'm still positive I can rattle off a hundred with little effort 1. Terry Funk 2. Stan Hansen 3. Dick Murdoch 4. Sgt. Slaughter 5. Jerry Blackwell 6. Terry Gordy 7. Kevon Von Erich 8. Buzz Sawyer 9. Tommy Rich 10. Bill Dundee 11. Jerry Lawler 12. Dutch Mantell 13. The Moondogs 14. The Nasty Boys 15. Ted Dibiase 16. Wahoo McDaniel 17. Nick Bockwinkel 18. Jim Duggan 19. Eddie Guerrero 20. William Regal 21. Fit Finlay 22. Necro Butcher 23. Mick Foley 24. Buddy Rose 25. Randy Savage 26. Abdullah The Butcher 27. Chris Benoit 28. Ron Garvin 29. Greg Valentine 30. Roddy Piper 31. Satanico 32. Black Terry 33. LA Park 34. Manny Fernandez 35. Ricky Morton 36. One Man Gang 37. Tully Blanchard 38. Magnum T.A. 39. Barry Windham 40. Ric Flair 41. The Fabulous Ones 42. Mr. Saito 43. Arn Anderson 44. Butch Reed 45. Vader 46. Dirty White Boy 47. Tracy Smothers 48. Jimmy Golden 49. Dustin Rhodes 50. Dusty Rhodes 51. Dennis Condrey 52. Eric Embry 53. Bully Ray 54. Spike Dudley 55. Tajiri 56. Steve Corino 57. The Sandman 58. Steve Austin 59. Brian Pillman 60. Eddie Gilbert 61. Paul Orndorff 62. Big Bossman 63. Phil Hickerson 64. El Dandy 65. Sangre Chicana 66. Negro Casas 67. Villano IV 68. Emilo Charles Jr 69. Samoa Joe 70. MS-1 71. Hulk Hogan 72. Dr. Cerebro 73. CM Punk 74. Adrian Adonis 75. Tito Santana 76. Homicide 77. Bull Pain 78. Luke Gallows 79. The Undertaker 80. Harley Race 81. Bobby Jaggers 82. Bobby Eaton 83. Wing Kanemura 84. Tommy Rogers 85. Damien Wayne 86. Sami Callihan 87. Michael Hayes 88. The Heavenly Bodies 89. Fidel Sierra 90. Savio Vega/TNT 91. Eddie Kingston 92. Genchiro Tenryu 93. Kerry Von Erich 94. Chico Che 95. The Iron Sheik 96. Chicky Starr 97. Carlos Colon 98. Ken Patera 99. Killer Khan 100. Bob Orton That's pretty off the cuff and with little thought but I'm absolutely sure all of them are considerably better brawlers than Brody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Christ I agree with everyone Bix listed that I didn't which has to put the number near 120...again with little effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Some of those could be questioned. Like, Duggan's Mid-South highs were certainly better than Brody's best available work, but most of his WWF and WCW work was downright awful and at least as bad (if not worse) as anything Brody ever did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'm with Dylan in that this should be renamed The Funker Award. Who is the Best Funker sounds great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Some of those could be questioned. Like, Duggan's Mid-South highs were certainly better than Brody's best available work, but most of his WWF and WCW work was downright awful and at least as bad (if not worse) as anything Brody ever did. Well technically ALL of them could be questioned, but there is no one on that list I could see anyone convincing me was a worse brawler than Brody. Duggan absolutely decimates Brody. Mid-South run is great and even if you want to argue that his WWF run should drag him down, comparing worst to worst I don't see anyway Brody could possibly win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Add Mayumi Ozaki to the list. Could add more from joshi, but the point stands. I'd rename it for Hansen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Some of those could be questioned. Like, Duggan's Mid-South highs were certainly better than Brody's best available work, but most of his WWF and WCW work was downright awful and at least as bad (if not worse) as anything Brody ever did. Well technically ALL of them could be questioned, but there is no one on that list I could see anyone convincing me was a worse brawler than Brody. Duggan absolutely decimates Brody. Mid-South run is great and even if you want to argue that his WWF run should drag him down, comparing worst to worst I don't see anyway Brody could possibly win. Yeah, Duggan vs. Buzz on the Mid South set blows away any Brody brawl I've seen. That was one of the most exciting things I've ever watched in wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Solomon Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I found Duggan very entertaining in Mid South but his offense looks weak and clumsy compared to Brody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Brody has the weakest strikes I can think of of anyone known for being a "great brawler." By a wide margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 It's nice to see others who hate Brody too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted December 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I found Duggan very entertaining in Mid South but his offense looks weak and clumsy compared to Brody I need some specefic matches from the Mid South set where Hacksaw's offense looked weak and clumsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Solomon Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I found Duggan very entertaining in Mid South but his offense looks weak and clumsy compared to Brody I need some specefic matches from the Mid South set where Hacksaw's offense looked weak and clumsy. You'll get them, he had goofy offense. Even his football tackle finish looked weak compared to a Steve Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Solomon Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Same goes for Steve Austin, weak clumsy looking brawling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Solomon Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Duggan could also have some horrible looking clothes lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Same goes for Steve Austin, weak clumsy looking brawling Austin's little rapid fire punches from a mount really did look bad more often than not. They did not look as bad as the average Brody shot, let alone the average Brody "bump." Don't even get me started on when Brody had to eat offense from someone and he would do anything possible evade something bordering on contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Same goes for Steve Austin, weak clumsy looking brawling Austin's little rapid fire punches from a mount really did look bad more often than not. They did not look as bad as the average Brody shot, let alone the average Brody "bump." Don't even get me started on when Brody had to eat offense from someone and he would do anything possible evade something bordering on contact. Please don't insult the skill of bumping by referring to whatever the hell it was that Brody did as bumping. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Solomon Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Same goes for Steve Austin, weak clumsy looking brawling Austin's little rapid fire punches from a mount really did look bad more often than not. They did not look as bad as the average Brody shot, let alone the average Brody "bump." Don't even get me started on when Brody had to eat offense from someone and he would do anything possible evade something bordering on contact. For what it's worth, guys in shoot interveiws say that Brody dished it out pretty hard and was able to take it in return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted December 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Please give me some specific matches that would make me change my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Duggan absolutely decimates Brody. Mid-South run is great and even if you want to argue that his WWF run should drag him down, comparing worst to worst I don't see anyway Brody could possibly win.Hell, forget his WWF run and look at the cringe-inducing bullshit he did in WCW. Duggan could go worst-for-worst with Brody in terms of not selling or bumping or making other guys generally look like shit. Remember the infamous Berlyn match, where at times an exasperated Wright actually resorts to shooting on Duggan in an attempt to get his shit in. Or the bizarrely uncooperative PPV match he had with Craig Pittman in 1995, which made Duggan look like the world's shittiest MMA fighter. His bad matches in that time period were worse than even the worst bullshit I've ever seen Brody do. Different topic: we've occasionally had the "wrestlers have different standards than fans" discussion on here recently. My question is, should wrestlers' opinions of other wrestlers hold some weight, and how much? Because a whole bunch of those guys listed have gone on the record as honestly believing that Brody was one of the greatest they've ever seen. This includes guys who wrestled Brody many times, too. What would you say those guys are seeing in Frank Goodish's performances that we're not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 My question is, should wrestlers' opinions of other wrestlers hold some weight, and how much? No and none at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Solomon Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 My question is, should wrestlers' opinions of other wrestlers hold some weight, and how much? No and none at all. Sorry but I'll take a Wrestler's opinion over a fans a lot of the time. They worked in the industry and breathed it. Their opinion carries more weight than a bunch of guys overanalyzing and overthinking the room on message boards. In football we call that Monday morning Qaurterbacking. There is a reason Color announcers are mostly former athletes rather than Joe Blow from the Internet Message Boards. This Brody bashing seems way too over the top to be taken seriously. I can see people saying he's overrated and I can deal with pointing out the flaws but I mean by hearing some on this board, Brody was a good for nothing Jabroni that wasn't worth crap. It seems as tho some of the hard core fans try to be contrarian for contrarian's sake and then go and rewrite history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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