1980s Lucha Wrestling Party #1

[goodhelmet]

I was joined by Phil Schneider and Johnny Sorrow last night as we dig into the new DVDVR set.

 

Here is the line-up for the show...

 

Satoru Sayama y Gran Hamada vs. Perro Aguayo y Baby Face (4/13/80)

Andre the Giant & Cien Caras vs. Alfonso Dantes, Herodes y Sangre Chicana (1981)

Centurion Negro vs. Gran Hamada (2/14/82)

El Canek vs. Don Corleone (2/14/82)

Tatsumi Fujinami vs. El Canek (6/12/83)

 

 

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[goodhelmet]

I was looking through the AWA stuff and noticed I was giving my rankings in these threads. Here are my Night one rankings....

 

Satoru Sayama y Gran Hamada vs. Perro Aguayo y Baby Face (4/13/80)

- Really fun match with big spots from Hamada and Baby Face. Perro was nasty and Sayama did some cool shit as well.

 

Centurion Negro vs. Gran Hamada (2/14/82)

Tatsumi Fujinami vs. El Canek (6/12/83)

- Real fun mat based matches with big dives to remember. Both the Hamada match and the Corleone match had the grat mud visuals to remember the matches by.

 

Andre the Giant & Cien Caras vs. Alfonso Dantes, Herodes y Sangre Chicana (1981)

- Watching it a second time did not feel as special as the first time but I still loved all of Andre's spots. I enjoyed everyone here better than I enjoyed Canek in the Corleone match so I ranked it higher even though I had the Corleone amtch higher on the show.

 

El Canek vs. Don Corleone (2/14/82)

- Corleone ruled, Canek sucked.

[aethelred]

1) Satoru Sayama y Gran Hamada vs. Perro Aguayo y Baby Face (4/13/80)

 

Very fun, all-action match. Hamada and Aguayo were particularly great.

 

2) Centurion Negro vs. Gran Hamada (2/14/82)

 

Great mat work, well built.

 

3) El Canek vs. Don Corleone (2/14/82)

 

I really liked Don Corleone's offence in this one.

 

4) Andre the Giant & Cien Caras vs. Alfonso Dantes, Herodes y Sangre Chicana (1981)

 

Andre's spots were really fun, as was the rudos bouncing off him.

 

5) Tatsumi Fujinami vs. El Canek (6/12/83)

 

Fine match, but not massively memorable.

[Johnny Sorrow]

My rankings, for the show.

 

1.Centurion Negro vs. Gran Hamada (2/14/82)

2.El Canek vs. Don Corleone (2/14/82)

3.Satoru Sayama y Gran Hamada vs. Perro Aguayo y Baby Face (4/13/80)

4.Tatsumi Fujinami vs. El Canek (6/12/83)

5.Andre the Giant & Cien Caras vs. Alfonso Dantes, Herodes y Sangre Chicana (1981)

[Matt D]

I'm going to go back through everything a second time with full write ups, but I did watch the first three matches with the party. I'd already written up the first one and I do think you guys missed a lot of cool stuff through it.

 

The Andre and Centurion matches were new to me though. I'm with Will on the Andre match. That's the most fun i've had watching wrestling in ages. It was like watching Princess Bride Andre. I've seen him in mutliman matches before and getting swarmed but never with guys just pinballing at him like that. I do agree that I liked it more at the end of the first fall than at the end of the second, BUT my favorite moment in the whole match might be with the rocket headbutts when he was held in the ropes and Caras saved his big buddy by grabbing the legs from outside letting Andre come back and win.

 

There were a lot of things I liked in the Centurion/Hamada match, especially the end of the first fall with the back body drop (and I agree with Phil that Hamada takes them SO well) being the finish and the end of the second which began with another back body drop and ended with the big backdrop suplex. I pretty much liked the entirety of the third caida too though I thought it had some extraneous bits and could have been tightened up a little.

 

Ideally I'll write them both up at some point.

 

Easily the funniest stuff was "your fellow jew." And I can say that since I was raised that way.

[JerryvonKramer]

It was like watching Princess Bride Andre.

This is a really perceptive comment. And spot on.

 

However, this was also the reason I didn't like the match, lol.

[Matt D]

I'm definitely going to have to go through everything again. You can get a gist of a match this way but I still don't think it's a great way to analyze them. With the lack of commentary I can understand, my general ignorance, and the relative length of matches on the set, I'm glad for the help though. Way I see it is this. If I have time to get through the set a second time, my way, great. Then I'll have a good ballot. If not, I'll at least have a general idea of things. We'll see how it goes.

 

Corleone's frigging awesome in the Canek match (I really like his selling too) but Canek brings absolutely nothing to the table. I thought it had a far stronger first two falls than the Fujinami match, which barely had a second fall at all. That said, Canek brings way more to the table in the Fujinami match and the third fall gets really good so it's probably a more complete match, even if it wasn't a more entertaining one.

[goodhelmet]

Best way to handle that Matt is if you think something deserves a second look, put a star by it. If you think one time is good enough, you cut down having to rewatch an entire set twice.

[Karl]

I fancied giving these a listen again, but the shows no longer work on Talk Shoe. Are they available anywhere else?

[Zoo Enthusiast]

There is one available here: http://placetobenation.com/goodwill-wrestling-introduction-to-1980s-lucha/