shoe Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 I thought I'd start a thread. If anyone is watching it live you should share your thoughts. If I'm up I'll post my thoughts throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I haven't seen any yet but who wants to watch a bunch of one-fall lucha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Well it's not lucha since it is taking place in New Japan but it's worth watching. Hamada's UWF wasn't really real lucha but it was well worth seeing from 90-93. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny P Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Um....me, and anyone else who respects lucha but isn't the biggest fan of it, or some of the patterns I've seen in 2/3 falls matches CMLL has promoted over the years. Hey, its all tastes and what people like and don't, and I respect that, but I for one am encouraged by the chance to see some of these performers outsider of their usual denizens. I've really taken a liking to Cavernario the last two weeks, so him alone would be cool to see here. I'm never going to be a massive lucha fan in practice, but I love a lot of the ideology and I'm going to try and check out the show in the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I never sleep and I still can't justify staying up all night to watch these shows live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I thought the opening 6 man was fun. Ishii as bully was nice. Gedo's heel schtick was a total blast. Angel De Oro got to be highlighted and got over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 In the 2nd match we have Kushida/Triton vs Cavernario/Okumura this was kind of nothing. Cavenario's dive was nice. Edit- I rewatched this and it was a fun sprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 The La Sombra 6 man was played for comedy. It was great in that regard. I loved the early comedy spots . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Volador's wings were awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pol Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Fun show so far up until that last match. I liked the Cavernario tag, though it was sloppy in places. Gran Guerrero got gassed minutes in and Volador Jr. doesn't seem to understand anything about wrestling other than doing cool moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stomperspc Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Cavernario/Okumura vs. Kushida/Triton was the best match of the first half, I thought. Gran Guerrero did better than expected. His match with Volador was basically the third fall of your modern CMLL title match that is built around big moves and tons of near falls. As far as that style goes, it was middle of the pack. Volador's wings were something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stomperspc Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Fun show so far up until that last match. I liked the Cavernario tag, though it was sloppy in places. Gran Guerrero got gassed minutes in and Volador Jr. doesn't seem to understand anything about wrestling other than doing cool moves. That's really not true. Not sure what/how much Volador you've seen but that's selling him short. Obviously his dives and other big moves are his big selling point, but he's got more going for him than that. He sells fine and has a good sense of timing his comebacks. He generally places his big moves well and builds to them fine. Nobody is selling him as a top guy or anything, but I think you are selling him a bit short. Plus, there is nothing wrong with being the guy that does a lot of cool moves as long as those moves are legitimately high end (which in Volador's case, they are). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 The Okada 6 man was ok. Nothing special. I liked the early playing to the crowd the most about the match. The early Mistico/Okada face off came across as important. Though meant nothing as the match progressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero seemed like a real good match. I need a rewatch when I'm not so tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pol Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Good recital of the Atlantis/UG match. Kinda whatever show overall, I thought the SamuraiTV one from earlier this week was much better. Hopefully Cavernario/Cometa gets a good amount of time and delivers tomorrow. I guess I have to agree with Matt D in that I think a number of the matches on this show would've been helped by being 2/3 falls. It's especially strange to see them work the standard Mexican trios match but without the falls dividing things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Looking forward to cherry picking some matches from these shows this week. Last year's were fun and breezy. Nothing blowaway but a really enjoyable way to mix up the styles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 The Volador jr. vs Gran Guerrero match was interesting.The start of the match with all the high spots and stuff felt rushed. It felt like the 3 rd caida of a match without the 1st 2 caidas if that makes any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I liked the show - it was fun to watch...nothing spectacular but all very enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I liked the show - it was fun to watch...nothing spectacular but all very enjoyable. That 's a perfect way to describe the show. I'm not sure which show I liked better this or New Years Eve Dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Good stuff with some cute moments, so to speak. Atlantis and UG did well to have a good match and I think everyone liked the change of pace CMLL brought. Good to see Cavernario bust out the splash to the floor. By the time they do this next year, he'll be higher on the card, I'm sure. Definitely want to see what night 2 brings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Cavenario vs Rey Cometa This is a total balls to the wall highspot sprint. These guys ran through so many highspots, It was even more fun than the Fenix vs. Pentagon Jr. match from Lucha Underground. Both guys got over big to the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stomperspc Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Cavenario vs Rey Cometa This is a total balls to the wall highspot sprint. These guys ran through so many highspots, It was even more fun than the Fenix vs. Pentagon Jr. match from Lucha Underground. Both guys got over big to the crowd. Yea, really fun. The exact right match for those two guys in that spot. All out sprint from the bell. There were a handful of great dives and other big spots. Cometa was awesome, especially considering he is working with one bad knee. Both guys got over to the point where you could see them being booked again sometime this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Mistico vs Polovara This was ok. Match seemed to lack transitions. They'd do moves, sell, repeat. I liked Polovara playing to the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Volador Jr.'s Tron outfit is the bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hiroshi Tanahashi & Kota Ibushi & Volador Jr. & Atlantis vs. Kazuchika Okada & Shinsuke Nakamura & Ultimo Guerrero & El Gran Guerrero This was another strong match on the show. We got some fun comedy. Some holy shit moments. Some great dives, and some pairings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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