goodhelmet Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 John Cena vs. Seth Rollins (Cage Match for the US Title) Brock Lesnar vs. The Big Show New Day vs. Dudley Boys (Tag Titles) Rusev vs. Dolph Ziggler Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jericho (IC Title) Randy Orton vs. Sheamus The Tokyo show was a good card. This doesn't look fun to sit through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 They should have at least switched it up and having Rusev/Owens/Sheamus vs Ziggler/Jericho/Sheamus or something. I can imagine how Orton vs Sheamus will go over in front of the MSG crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 As an opener, it will probably be well received Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Aren't there lower card matches with Team Bella and Stardust etc too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Orton/Sheamus was the opener for Summerslam in BK and did fine. Orton's actually a pretty good house show worker, but it's of course crazy that they didn't try to spice this up even a little bit. Half of these matches were presented to what will be much of the same crowd less than six weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Aren't there lower card matches with Team Bella and Stardust etc too? Maybe... .I got the matches from the Observer site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Already an aubile as Orton-Sheamus is now Orton/Ziggler vs. Sheamus/Rusev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Rusev & Sheamus vs. Dolph Ziggler & Randy Orton - Solid tag formula match - I enjoyed Dolph getting beat on but the hot tag was sort of lame and I really hate Orton’s soft offense. - Fun finish and better than the Kane tag from Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 I enjoyed the opener as Dolph sold well and with more focus than you usually see from this type of pairing on Raw. Also a couple fun spots with Orton backing from and ducking a lariat. Its crazy how he actually seems engaged on these non-routine TV shows. Dude must be bored with Raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Orton/Ziggler vs. Sheamus/Rusev: Can't yet dismiss this as an episode of Smackdown, but so far it looks and sounds like one. Aside from the eye poke this wasn't anything special. Crowd seemed dead for an MSG opener until the finish. Faces are allowed to do a little more shtick and audience acknowledgment than usual. The post-match was more of a Rusev burial than a Sheamus face turn. Nothing worth worrying about, but still odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 They need to put Rusev back with Lana ASAP. They just meant so much more as a double act, and Summer is a really poor substitute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Fell asleep during Neville Stardust Tem Bella vs. PCB - Fun match - The story was Paige and the other two not being on the same time. - At times, you could hear Sasha chants - Solid work with minimal screw ups. - I loved the finish with the PCB abandoning Paige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jericho - Really fun match but it felt like an ROH tribute show. - After watching ROH back to back a couple of weeks, you can see some of the things the indy guys love doing within the match…. Enziguiris, gut kicking reversals into another reversal. Roll up pin - This was good but not as good as the Owens match from Japan or the Jericho match from Japan for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Thought Jericho looked like crap, to be honest. Really sluggish. Match wasn't up to much, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Dudley Boyz vs. New Day - This was fun for the New Day antics. - I was dying at them making fun of the Duds signature stuff. - I don’t like the finish but it does mean the Dudz don’t have the titles. That is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 This has been a perfectly acceptable show that feels very normal. Nothing outstanding but absolutely nothing offensive or that feels like a huge waste of time. Why won't they even try running Raw like this, even from time to time? It'll save everybody in the office from headaches at least a few times every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Stardust vs. Neville: Not sure what to even say about this. Cody's maniac gimmick seemed to get no reaction. People liked the Red Arrow and didn't seem to care about everything prior to that. Team Bella vs. PCB: Fine, but Bellas vs. BAD from SD was miles ahead of this. I stopped paying attention at certain points but I cop to continuing to give Paige the benefit of the doubt and actually liking her promo work, even when it's the indulgent faux-shoot stuff. Jericho vs. Owens: Actually really enjoyed Owens audible heeling this time around. Solid match: I continue to inexplicably enjoy Jericho as a house show worker even though he botches spots and isn't anything special in-ring. Agree that both guys were better in Japan. New Day-Dudleys: Holy hell that New Day promo was the highlight of the night. Probably of the week. Xavier was incredible here. So much good banter. "Don't touch me, dog." "Tricep meat." "An introverted man." "Shame." Loved that New Day kept the gold but feels like they're just delaying the title change until HIAC. But very entertaining, well laid out stuff from both teams, and New Day seem like the most over act in the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Brock Lesnar vs. Big Show - Man, Brock no sells three chokeslams… gives Big Show 4 suplexes and an F5. This was a spectacle but really short. I don’t like the idea of Big Show killing off Henry and Cesaro to get killed off from Lesnar so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Brock vs. Big Show -- Show is one of my least favorite guys on the roster. But this was still awesome. Loved him popping up after the choke slams, loved the suplexes as well as how quickly they finished it. Post-match belly to belly and another F5? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Brock-Show: Highlight was actually Brock's awesome selling of the chokeslams. I liked the story they told and was going to say that I only wish the match had been longer until Brock came back for more. Not because it should have been competitive, but because I'd have liked ten more suplexes. Only negative was the terribly out of place hushed tones from the announcers trying to get this over as something gravely serious and Eden having to randomly announce “Let's hear it for the Big Show!” for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 If they had about ten more minutes of the first two minutes, with both guys trying to get the advantage, this would have been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Are others noticing Cena favor and regularly check his knee throughout this match? I wonder if that's related to his upcoming break or if he merely tweaked it tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 It's pretty ironic: Cena overreacting to the notions that he can't wrestle has done a lot to make him someone who can't wrestle instead of one of the best in the world like he used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 It's pretty ironic: Cena overreacting to the notions that he can't wrestle has done a lot to make him someone who can't wrestle instead of one of the best in the world like he used to be. This is a great post. He does feel like he's regressed badly in the past year as he's tried to "do more" at the expense of psychology and selling. But he's actually won some of the "Cena can't wrestle" goobers over to some degree. He was getting heavily praised on WF earlier this year before he won the U.S. title back and everyone started wishing he'd get a horrible injury again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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