Loss Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 If you think someone should be turfed in favor of someone that isn't present here, state your case. These are not in any particular order. Also, please don't say "I can't believe you forgot so-and-so" until you know for sure they're not here. Just trying to preemptively avoid that. If there are enough debates over certain guys, we'll have qualifying matches. Hulk Hogan Bret Hart Shawn Michaels Steve Austin The Rock Chris Benoit Chris Jericho Randy Savage Eddy Guerrero Owen Hart Davey Boy Smith Ted DiBiase Rey Misterio Edge Christian Dynamite Kid Ultimate Warrior Ricky Steamboat Greg Valentine Bob Backlund Diesel Razor Ramon HHH 1-2-3 Kid/X-Pac Bad News Brown Brutus Beefcake Andre the Giant Jake Roberts Matt Hardy Jeff Hardy Kane Undertaker Brock Lesnar Goldust Booker T Mr. Perfect Rikishi John Bradshaw Layfield Kurt Angle Mick Foley Randy Orton Marty Jannetty Rick Rude Tito Santana Ric Flair Arn Anderson Tully Blanchard Chavo Guerrero Jr Roddy Piper Val Venis Yokozuna Big Show Rick Martel Jerry Lawler Jeff Jarrett Jacques Rougeau Vader Savio Vega Bam Bam Bigelow Yoshihiro Taijiri Taka Michinoku Rob Van Dam Sgt Slaughter Paul Orndorff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Seems good to me. All the names that I care about are on there. The others weren't WWF, like Nikita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 I'm going to put them in alphabetical order by first name to make it a little more organized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 The Brainbusters were hardly in the WWF long enough to make a real impact, I think. Tajiri seems misplaced on that list as well. I would suggest adding Jimmy Snuka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 1-2-3 Kid/X-Pac Andre the Giant Arn Anderson Bad News Brown Bam Bam Bigelow Big Show Bret Hart Bob Backlund Booker T Brock Lesnar Brutus Beefcake Chavo Guerrero Jr Chris Benoit Chris Jericho Christian Davey Boy Smith Diesel Dynamite Kid Eddy Guerrero Edge Goldust Greg Valentine HHH Hulk Hogan Jacques Rougeau Jake Roberts Jeff Hardy Jeff Jarrett Jerry Lawler John Bradshaw Layfield Kane Kurt Angle Marty Jannetty Matt Hardy Mick Foley Mr. Perfect Owen Hart Paul Orndorff Randy Orton Randy Savage Razor Ramon Rey Misterio Ric Flair Rick Martel Rick Rude Rikishi Ricky Steamboat Rob Van Dam The Rock Roddy Piper Savio Vega Sgt Slaughter Shawn Michaels Steve Austin Taka Michinoku Ted DiBiase Tito Santana Tully Blanchard Ultimate Warrior Undertaker Vader Val Venis Yokozuna Yoshihiro Taijiri Jimmy Snuka would be a good addition. Also, from looking at the list, Brian Pillman is missing. So is Marc Mero. I only mention him because I wouldn't have Savio Vega in there. Another consideration would be Al Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Mike Rotunda, Barry Windham and Dan Spivey were also pretty fromidable in the early goings of rock n' wrestling. Also, if you were to include Sgt. Slaughter, would you include Junkyard Dog as well... even though his best matches and angles were with Watts? Damn, also remembering the Killer Bees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 I would take DK out and put in Sid. DK didn't really have any great matches that I'm aware of in WWF and Sid had two world title reigns and MEed in both on his runs there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Please, so it'll be easier, if you're making suggestions, please type them like this so I can make the qualifying matches easier. In: Wrestler X Out: Wrestler Y Thanks. Dynamite Kid had loads of great matches with the British Bulldogs. They're the most famous WWF team of the 80s, with possibly only Demolition getting higher. I'm going to fight you on that one. Sid deserves inclusion though. Every other person to hold the World title since 1985 (except Vince McMahon) is somewhere on this list. So, who gets turfed to make room for Sid? What did Jimmy Snuka do after 1985? He peaked in the late 70s/early 80s. Brainbusters made a definite impact, actually, winning the tag titles and having the feud of the year with the Rockers. They deserve to be here. As for JYD, US Express, Taijiri, Brainbusters, etc -- Please make a suggestion for who to turf if you're pleading the case for someone to get included. Please make a suggestion for who to include if you want someone turfed. Refer to the format above. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Thoughts on all the missing wrestlers: Taijiri isn't a must, but I'm not sold on Snuka replacing him. I'd be fine with replacing him with Marc Mero though. We'll do a qualifying match on that. Brian Pillman was SHIT in the WWF. We'll do a qualifying match with Val Venis and Al Snow. Mike Rotunda should be included (he had a run in the mid 80s as a tag champ and also had a second run as IRS). Who should be his qualifying opponent? How about Savio Vega? Sgt. Slaughter held the World title. Every other world champion from this era is here with Sid now being included. Terry Funk is the most glaring omission to me. He has a stronger case than JYD. Had a big run against Hogan in 85/86 and came back for another memorable run with Foley in '98. How about this for qualifying matches? Marc Mero v Yoshihiro Taijiri Val Venis v Al Snow IRS/Mike Rotunda v Savio Vega Terry Funk v Rikishi Brainbusters v Killer Bees Turf Jacques Rougeau for Sid. Sound good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 In: Sid, two time WWF champion, a MEer in 92, 95, 96, and 97. Had memorable (for better or worse) matches with Hogan, Nash, HBK and Bret. MEed two WMs and several (about ten) other PPVs. Out: Beefcake, I know that he had a long run (about 8 years) but in the end he is totally forgettable. Outside of cutting Adrian Adonis' hair, his feuds with Honky and Perfect, and his friendship with Hogan he did absolutely nothing of note. Beefcake MEed 1 PPV (Summerslam 89) as Hogan's partner against Savage and Zeus and got the semi-main event, once again as Hogan's partner at WM 9 againt Money Inc. Without Hogan he was pretty much nothing but a midcarder with a goofy gimmick. In: JYD, he was the number 2 face in the company behind Hogan in 87 Out: Val Venis, what has he done outside of a few quality matches (the cage match with Rikishi stands out)? I'd say that the Hart Foundation and Demolition are more famous than the Bulldogs, but I don't care if DK is left in and I won't argue for any of those guys to be included, since Bret obviously already is and the rest made an impact but not all that much in the grand scheme of things. He was the first guy I saw when I thought of Sid. DK got screwed by me because of the alphabet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Fuck, Some Guy opened it up... IN: Adrian Adonis OUT:Bad News brown Bad News was a badass that did jackshit in the WWF. Um.. Battle Royale of Mania 4? Kicked Vince's ass? Adonis on the other hand was a fine worker in his day, was part one of the greatest anges that I think paid off in the ring. Granted, most of his pimped matches happened before 1985 but it is fucking Adrian Adonis!!! IN: Don Muraco OUT: Greg valentine This was hard for me to do but in 1985, and even early 1986, Muraco was the workhorse. His most famous matches occurred before 1985 but he was still integral to the product during the rise of rock n' wrestling. Valentine, on the other hand, was not doing the best matches of his career at this time either. The Bulldogs match from WM2 was probably the best match I saw him in from this time period. Fuck, another one to consider... IN: Honkytonk Man OUT: Jerry Lawler HAHAHA! Fucking kicking cousins. anyway, I would think Honkytonk was more important in the ring than Lawler ever was in the WWF. Lawler was a WWF announcer, not a wrestler. All of his best moments happened in Memphis long before he became King of Puppies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 That said, we'll add them to the qualifying matches. Adrian Adonis v Bad News Brown Don Muraco v Greg Valentine Honky Tonk Man v Jerry Lawler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 I don' t necessarily mind if these guys are in or out. I just want to make sure all names are considered before we jump in and forget someone that has to be there... like the Red Rooster or Koko B. Ware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Disagreed at first, agreed after thinking about it. Edited my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Oh shit, I'm stoked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Maybe I'm blind, but what about LOD? I'd take them over the Killer Bees or the Brainbusters in a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Maybe I'm blind, but what about LOD? I'd take them over the Killer Bees or the Brainbusters in a second. Agreed. I can't see taking either team over the LOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 The only thing I could see keeping the LOD from being considered is that they were already past their prime as draws and monsters in thier first run... and their second run was a complete abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Sorry. The qualifying matches have already been set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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