Loss Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Vote for the wrestler that you think had the better career in WWE (whether you base that on impact or match quality is your decision), from 1985 to 2005. Voting will end tomorrow morning at the latest. Please give the wrestler's name first and any explanation thereafter. Thanks. *Winner will face Eddy Guerrero in next round.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treble Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Undertaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mac Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Taker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Man in Blak Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Undertaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Rey Mysterio I really don't care if Undertaker has been around longer, had more success, etc. I watch wrestling for the Rey Mysterios of the world, not the Undertakers. After Undertaker debuted, he went on a rampage, beating a legend at WrestleMania, involved in a major storyline with Jake Roberts and Randy Savage, won the WWF title a year after his debut, and put to misery Roberts, a heel who had really got on the fans' nerves. I often wonder what would happen to Mysterio if he was pushed at that level in 2002-2003, even if it was done in a different way, rather than becoming Albert's whipping boy. Mysterio's a far better worker, as we know. His work in the WWE, arguably, isn't as good as its been elsewhere, but he's had many standout matches. His very recent work with Eddy Guerrero shows how well he can look if he is also booked strong in a major storyline. Mysterio's also been the equivalent of Undertaker in terms of merch sales. However, if I'm a parent of a kid who enjoys wrestling, I'd rather the kid buy a Mysterio mask than a foam Undertaker urn, but that may be just me. On top of all this, unlike a lot of Undertaker's work that many forget when thinking about his success, Mysterio has never done anything in his WWE run that has made me embarrassed to be a wrestling fan, to steal a quote from Loss. I'll also re-quote Loss: Like the Hogan-Benoit matchup, I think this will really show what fans watch wrestling for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Rey Misterio Jr I was honestly going to vote for the Undertaker until I read Marty's excellent case. Now, I'm voting for Rey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Marty, great friggin' post!!!!! I agree with what he said. If I need to write a Taker v. Mysterio post like I did for Piper-Smith, I may be up for it. Don't let Taker's longevity fool ya. If squashing up-and-comers and refusing to put over better wrestlers is your cup of tea, vote Taker... just remember this isn't the "best wrestling politician" tournament. Rey Mysterio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Man in Blak Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Mysterio's also been the equivalent of Undertaker in terms of merch sales. Do you happen to have those numbers, right off hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Mysterio's also been the equivalent of Undertaker in terms of merch sales. Do you happen to have those numbers, right off hand? Off-hand, I don't, but I remember Meltzer reporting in the Observer a while ago about Mysterio ranking right up there with Undertaker and Eddy Guerrero in terms of Smackdown merch circa 2003-2004. HTQ, a little help here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mac Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Can i change my vote for Taker to Mysterio after Marty's post? If not then..BLAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Man in Blak Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 I'm still sticking with my vote for Undertaker, because there's no denying the heat that he had with the gimmick for so long. If everybody's going to give HTM credit for "carrying" his gimmick, then Calloway should get credit for carrying arguably the greatest gimmick character of all time. I was just curious about the numbers, because I didn't initially think Rey was moving that much merchandise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Taker's theme song is over... rather the "BONG* is over. And if you let someone squash opponents for 15 years straight, you would be getting pops as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingPK Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Rey Mysterio Taker's been using smoke (literally) and mirrors to keep himself over for the last 4 or so years now. He's got a cool entrance and that's IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Undertaker To be honest, Rey has yet to impress me really in the WWE, but then again I haven't seen the product in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 The Undertaker Mysterio hasn't done shit in WWE and shouldn't have made it this far. I often wonder what would happen to Mysterio if he was pushed at that level in 2002-2003, even if it was done in a different way, rather than becoming Albert's whipping boy. I'm guessing he'd have blown more spots, Amazing Red style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 I can only assume that anyone that isn't a fan of Rey and thinks he blows spots on a regular basis hasn't watched any of his work in the past 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Taker. Rey has had better matches for sure, but Taker has had the better career by a wide margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 I can only assume that anyone that isn't a fan of Rey and thinks he blows spots on a regular basis hasn't watched any of his work in the past 12 months. ...or, you know, Rey's work for, well, most of his career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Rey Mysterio Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alfdogg Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Undertaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOwnSummer Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Rey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Undertaker, Don't like him at all but he's had a better WWF career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunter's Torn Quad Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Off-hand, I don't, but I remember Meltzer reporting in the Observer a while ago about Mysterio ranking right up there with Undertaker and Eddy Guerrero in terms of Smackdown merch circa 2003-2004. HTQ, a little help here? I don't have merchandise numbers at hand, but when Meltzer did a breakdown of who moved viewers on Smackdown a few months ago, Rey was a reasonable positive draw, while Undertaker was a slight negative draw. Rey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Rey Misterio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teke184 Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Undertaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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