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Super match! I'm a little tired and having trouble formulating my thoughts at the moment, but this is just beautiful lucha libre and feels "pure", because all of the wrestling sequences are so perfectly hit and there isn't any brawling. This is more bombastic than a title match, but this is the title match of bombastic trios matches. Yes, I said I'm tired. But really, as a graceful athletic display that still has some cohesion and build, this is fantastic. For the bulk of the match, everyone is working cleanly, except for Misterioso and Volador, who have a personal issue. They do a good job of making their rivalry stand out, and I even think the screwy finish works in this context.
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[1994-03-16-WCW-Munich, GER] Ric Flair & Steven Regal vs Sting & Ricky Steamboat
Loss replied to Loss's topic in March 1994
I wanted to watch this, but I really didn't expect this to be this good. As individual pairings of Flair/Steamboat and Flair/Sting, there is nothing you haven't seen before, but taken in the context of Regal/Sting and Regal/Steamboat, it's terrific, because all we're getting is spirited matwork for the first 10+ minutes of this. It starts feeling a little cheap when Flair and Sting are paired off for the first time and switch to their normal schtick, but up until then, it's building to a great match, and even after that, it's still really good. Regal is by far the best worker of the four, taking rapid fire bumps off of Steamboat's hot tag and doing some really awesome attempts to get out of Sting's armbar at the beginning of the match. Falls just short of being a great match, but stands out as different. -
Cactus cuts a fired up German promo before the match, which is awesome. But we all know why this is here. Buh-bye, Cactus ear.
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"This match started at 10:10 and now it's 10:16." -- Whoever filmed the Rock & Roll Express vs Heavenly Bodies marathon match on March 12, right after the announcer made a time call that 10 minutes had elapsed
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I should have a lot to say about this. I mean, it was an hour-long match. But I don't. It's just there. It's a good match when taken as a whole, but good is about it, and these guys also struggled to keep 60 minutes interesting. And for some reason, the Rock & Rolls carried a fall advantage for almost all of this, which seems to work against the idea of a big comeback. Add in some gimmicking with the time, and I really stopped caring. When they came roaring out of the gate, I thought we might get a different approach, but we didn't. Even though I was a little disappointed in this, I'm glad it made a yearbook. Good or bad, it needed to be here, and it was good. There was so much strong work for it to be bad, but it was surrounded by lots of boring time killing. Anyway, good was all it was. And a match that's just good doesn't really need to take an hour.
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I think he's the only one, but John McAdam gave it ***** on his old tape list and called it one of the ten best matches of the 90s. He also said many people called it the greatest of all time and he wouldn't go quite that far. So I don't know if that means there were people who loved it at the time or what.
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The story is that Heyman used being able to turn a hardcore fan crowd in Philly against Ric Flair as an example of his manipulative genius.
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[1994-03-12-WCW-Saturday Night] Steve Austin vs Ricky Steamboat
Loss replied to Loss's topic in March 1994
Blows away the '92 Clash. Need to see Bash at the Beach and the Clash again to see how they compare.- 17 replies
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[1994-03-12-WCW-Saturday Night] Steve Austin vs Ricky Steamboat
Loss replied to Loss's topic in March 1994
Austin finally gets the time and quality opponent he needs to pull off the excellent match he's been teasing for months. Still, at 15 minutes, I think it could have easily gone twice as long, but Steamboat is much better at pacing a match than Sting or Pillman. The matwork at the beginning has this fluid urgency to it - for lack of a better way to describe it - that seems fitting for two guys that are fighting for a world title shot. They cut a crazy pace. Everything just looks amazing. I guess in some ways they were familiar opponents since they had been on opposite sides in multiple singles and tag team programs before this. But it still stands out to see two guys in their first singles match at the start of a fresh run clicking like this. Austin works an abdominal stretch, which Steamboat finally fights out of before being caught with a great spinebuster. They are really doing a great job of cutting off Steamboat's comebacks at just the right time. Steamboat was never really less than good, but he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire in singles matches throughout 1993, so it's great to see him getting back in top form in preparation for another main event run. Fantastic (Really!) nearfall stretch in the last 3-4 minutes, on par with Wrestlemania III. Steamboat winning the match by DQ when he needs to challenge for the world title on the next PPV sort of sucks, but this was still a tremendous match. I love the post-match angle with Flair and Steamboat, as Flair tries to help Steamboat fight off Austin and Parker and gets accidentally decked for his troubles. Pretty obvious Flair has the book when you see himself, Steamboat and Austin in the top mix.- 17 replies
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[1994-03-12-WCW-Saturday Night] Nasty Boys, Kevin Sullivan and The Equalizer
Loss replied to Loss's topic in March 1994
The Nastys are supposed to have a match, but Gary Cappetta doesn't know who their opponents are. Kevin Sullivan is in the ring with a guy under a sheet. Sullivan throws fire (!), and we see that the Equalizer is actually Kevin Sullivan's brother. Kevin says his real name is Dave. Equalizer says it's Evad and gets slapped. YOUR NAME IS DAVE. Sullivan is a scary guy here, and between the fire and creepy promo is unlike anything else in the sterile WCW environment at this point. Great segment.- 6 replies
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Gene interviews Hogan on the set of Thunder In Paradise, and I think this is Hulk's first appearance on WCW TV. Bobby Heenan shows up and starts asking Hogan about unfinished business in pro wrestling. Hogan takes exception and they are clearly building to his return.
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Talk about it here.
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Hogan is being talked about openly on WCW TV now. Flair takes Gene's bait in mentioning him, but says in all fairness, Hogan is making movies and Flair is the world champion, so he wants to focus on the big Austin/Steamboat match today, as the winner will face him at Spring Stampede. Flair is still acting like Flair, but he's not as awesome as he was now that the Vader feud is over. Maybe things will pick up again when his next program heats up.
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"I want all these Smoky Mountain scumbags out here in TV land to get their tongues out of their grandmothers mouths and stop felching the family dog. For I have great news to share!" This promo is just so awesome. Wow, I'm not sure why James Mitchell couldn't always be this awesome.
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"I want all these Smoky Mountain scumbags out here in TV land to get their tongues out of their grandmothers mouths and stop felching the family dog. For I have great news to share!" -- Darryl Van Horn, SMW TV 03/12/94
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We join in with Dirty White Girl slugging The Hornet in a recent match, and Cornette is clearly copying Baby Doll's 1986 push. Then we cut to the match, which has Dirty White Girl on commentary, which should never, ever, ever happen again. It's all to set up Tammy Fytch coming out to confront her at the booth. She's accompanied by Brian Lee, who holds her while Tammy rips her blouse off. DWB immediately abandons his match and the heels retreat.
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If you don't like Ricky Morton's promos, I don't have anything nice to say you, so I won't say anything. He gets the emotion pitch perfect and makes me want to see the Bluegrass Brawl match. Mission accomplished.
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Sherri in AAA is always amusing to me. And because she's Sherri, of course she takes a bump on the floor. Anyway, this is really nothing as a match, but the heat is through the roof and I enjoyed all the extracurricular stuff happening around the match. The Mascarita Sagrada/Jake Roberts interactions have always amused me, and Sagrada caps off a great night by doing a spectacular dive off the top of the cage. He didn't think that one through though, because now he's at Jake's Mercy in the cage. Konnan finally makes a comeback, saves Sagrada and gets the win. It was about time he did something!
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The writers' job is to write words for everyone to say, not to come up with ideas. That's always been my perception.
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Well, this is still one of my favorite matches ever. It's the best match of 1994 to date too. Espectrito takes some incredible bumps from the ring to the floor, and Sagrada's dives from the top rope to the floor are beautiful. There are also some really nifty holds from Espectrito that I've never seen before, coming up with all sorts of terrifying looking ways to bend Sagrada like a pretzel. Sagrada is undersized, even for a mini, which allows Espectrito to work as a monster heel, which is probably not a role he was used to, but still pulled off amazingly well. Sagrada was a brilliant highspot artist, not too far below Rey Jr. at the same point in time. His bend up counter thing at the beginning of the third fall is also pretty mind boggling. The timing of the spot where Espectrito accidentally did the tope on Espectro is impeccable. But more than all of that, the biggest positive for this match has always been the big match feel, which this has in spades. This has heat building and atmosphere on par with just about any heavyweight main event you'll ever see. This remains one of the greatest matches of all time -- one that if anything, I liked more than I ever have when watching it this time. The best AAA match ever, and probably in or near the top ten anywhere for the whole decade. I need to finally see Damiancito El Guerrero vs Cicloncito Ramirez, since people who love this as much as I do seem to like that one even better.
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I think by "last run", he meant "previous run", not "final run".
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Bix's Wrestling Death Thing sounds like a really great synth pop group from 1983.
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Just that I thought he looked pretty weak in '93 after having a tremendous '92. I suspect he was working hurt.
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I REALLY hate the "(thanks to Brian Hoops)" at the end. It makes it look like Brian Hoops is the guy we should thank for all the dead guys.