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  1. Loss
    If that's true, I don't want it to be true at all. I want more Shawn Michaels fans, Kurt Angle fans, Davey Richards fans, Dragon Gate fans, Tanahashi fans and even ... HHH fans to post at this board. I'd rather it just be a hodgepodge than for us to be seen as some type of monolith.
  2. Loss
    So glad there's now a clean version of this on YouTube!
  3. Loss
    Little bugs me more than that kind of thing. I don't believe PWO has a group think mentality on any topic, other than "Wrestling is fun". We just have some people who are more outspoken than others.
  4. Loss
    I liked this match, but yeah, it was too short to really amount to much.
  5. Loss
    Austin comes in and cleans house and DX quickly come out to provide reinforcement and attack Austin. The visual of Austin being tied up in the ropes while Shawn rubs the belt in his face is great stuff. Cactus and Funk end up running out to make the save and yeah, they were still selling injuries but they also killed the angle.
  6. Loss
    Come on, WWF, fork over the dough for the real music if you're going to do stuff like this.
  7. Loss
    I too liked this match as continued storyline development. Road Dogg runs in for the DQ as Owen is about to apply the sharpshooter, and DX comes out to help them do even more damage. HHH gives Owen a DDT on the entrance platform and they are about to throw him off the stage but referees and other officials come out to stop them. I laugh at the subtext of this being wrestlers snapping because of the pressure to win the ratings war.
  8. Loss
    Agreed that this was a really fun match before the big angle. And I liked the angle, even though parts of it were a blatant copy of the WCW angle in 1996 where Kevin Nash threw Rey into the trailer, with Sunny in the Woman role. Michael Cole's complete lack of authenticity and reliance on buzzwords ("Many of the Superstars look up to these two") hurts this some, but Jim Ross is exceptional. Flash Funk wants to fight the NAO, which is a nice touch, then the brawl breaks out with other guys too. The NAO seem almost apologetic and DX cut them off and tell them to suck it up and I really like this part of the segment a lot. Putting them in DX cemented them at that level, but this is the angle that made the NAO stars.
  9. Loss
    I also think we're having a discussion about two different things. One side is discussing intent and the other side is discussing outcome. Whether wrestling matches withstand the test of time or not has nothing to do with whether they were created with the intent of withstanding the test of time. They either do or they don't. I agree with Dave and others in the sense that matches are worked for a specific time and place, and they are only trying to get over in that specific time and place. But sometimes, matches intended to get over in a specific time and place still transcend that specific time and place. Those are the great matches. The discovery of those types of matches is what keeps a lot of us excited about wrestling. I don't think it's a grave insult that Tiger Mask matches don't look great in 2014. As is said, they weren't intended to look great in 2014. Neither were Fujinami matches during the same time period, but they still do. I don't care about intent. I care about outcome. I fully admit that when we are discussing great wrestling matches, we are discussing something that is often happenstance rather than something calculated by the wrestlers in the ring. If two matches looked equally great in 1982 and one does now and the other doesn't, I'm more interested in discussing why. So, in short: standards change, yet standards never change. The opposite of one profound truth is another profound truth.
  10. Loss
    DX is out dressed as a pair of Uncle Sams and is pushing for Austin vs Tyson. Austin is out and realizes what they are doing and points out that his sights are still set on Michaels. I like the nice attention to detail of DX immediately getting out of their silly outfits when Austin comes out so that Shawn doesn't look stupid as the top heel. This was a great segment.
  11. Loss
    Shawn's facial expressions reacting to Hunter's bad words as a contrast to Chyna's stone cold facial expressions is hilarious.
  12. Loss
    Haha, Tony, I don't think it's SAVAGE that has taken a ton of steam out of Sting in a short period of time. This is okay while it's going on and yes, they were killing Sting at this point, but Sting isn't as motivated to make the most of his career peak either. Hogan and Savage are positioned above Sting, and then Hogan is positioned above Savage who is having to deal with the washed-up Lex Luger. Notice Nash doesn't enter the ring to take any bumps for Sting. The stupid politics are dripping off the screen here.
  13. Loss
    This feels like an ad-libbed promo because Kidman made a mistake in his match. I can see WCW doing something like this without thinking to tell the cruisers to stay away from the move, and I can also see the cruisers in their own world not even thinking about that. This does feel like a prelude to a Nash babyface turn. I like the idea of fines, but their impact is negated when wrestlers don't sell them as mattering. This is good for getting over Nash, but I don't know what else it benefits.
  14. Loss

    Matches of the Month

    Loss posted a topic in 1998

    January: #1 - Kiyoshi Tamura vs Mikhail Ilioukhine (RINGS 01/21/98) ****1/2 #2 - Mitsuharu Misawa vs Jun Akiyama (AJPW 01/26/98) ***3/4 #3 - Yuki Ishikawa vs Alexander Otsuka (BattlARTS 01/20/98) ***3/4 #4 - Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker (WWF Royal Rumble 01/18/98) ***3/4 #5 - Raven vs Chris Benoit (WCW Souled Out 01/24/98) ***1/2 #6 - Mr. Aguila, Pantera, Salsero & Venum Black vs Juventud Guerrera, Mosco De La Merced, Pantera Del Ring & Super Crazy (Promo Azteca 01/30/98) ***1/2 #7 - Rey Misterio Jr. vs Juventud Guerrera (WCW Thunder 01/15/98) ***1/2 #8 - Ultimo Dragon vs Shinjiro Otani (NJPW Tokyo Dome 01/04/98) ***1/2 #9 - Etsuko Mita & Mima Shimoda vs Meiko Satomura & Sonoko Kato (GAEA 01/15/98) ***1/2 #10 - Ric Flair vs Bret Hart (WCW Souled Out 01/24/98) ***1/2 #11 - Masato Tanaka vs Mr. Gannosuke (FMW 01/06/98) ***1/4 #12 - Mens Teoh vs Shoichi Funaki (Michinoku Pro 01/14/98) ***1/4 #13 - Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko vs Chris Jericho & Eddy Guerrero (WCW Thunder 01/29/98) *** #14 - Sandman vs Sabu (ECW House Party 01/10/98) *** #15 - Juventud Guerrera, Super Calo & Lizmark Jr. vs La Parka, Psicosis & Silver King (WCW Souled Out 01/24/98) *** #16 - Justin Credible vs Great Sasuke (ECW House Party 01/10/98) *** #17 - Goldberg vs Jerry Flynn (WCW Monday Nitro 01/12/98) #18 - Goldberg vs Brad Armstrong (WCW Monday Nitro 01/26/98) #19 - Diamond Dallas Page vs Chris Jericho (WCW Monday Nitro 01/05/98) #20 - Cham Pain & Venom vs Surge & Kid Dynamo (NWA 2000 01/03/98) #21 - Goldust vs Flash Funk (WWF Monday Night RAW 01/05/98) #22 - Genichiro Tenryu vs Nobutaka Araya (WAR 01/14/98) #23 - Rob Van Dam vs Bam Bam Bigelow (ECW House Party 01/10/98) Not the best month for in-ring action, but I am interested in watching all the holes in WCW storylines while the WWF stumbles on to something hot.
  15. Loss
    I think I liked this a bit more than soup. I thought they maintained the fast pace and all-out highspots throughout most of the match. It did slow down some in the third fall, but I still think what they were doing was pretty good. However, I will concede that the slower pace sort of exposed that the highspots were all these guys had, as there just wasn't much to see here other than the athleticism. Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't. It made for a good match for me, but I agree that it could have been better and that the first fall was the best part of this match. It had a real inverse build where it started off hot and slowly cooled off. Juventud really punted on that low blow though.
  16. Loss
    Thanks for the recommendations. I am going to go ahead and close this off since I think we are at a point where we couldn't fit any additional matches on the set.
  17. Loss
    http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/27939-money-in-the-bank/
  18. Loss
    Really good TV match. I like Jericho and Malenko, but Benoit and Eddy are so great and the difference between them and the other two is pretty clear here. Malenko doesn't seem to be as motivated as the other three. Nice finish to a short match. Remember guys, the 30-minute match from the Hildebrand tribute show involving these four is still to come!
  19. Loss
    This was fun, but kind of disappointed me as a promo to be honest. Dusty can talk but I don't like him in this role at all.
  20. Loss
    Yeah, this was a great video - probably the best one I've seen from ECW.
  21. Loss
    Yeah, RVD's lift is very impressive. I was wondering why Snow's face was so puffy until they turned the camera right side up. I like Shane Douglas's delivery, but I'm sick of the SHOOTING. I like the Bigelow-Taz confrontation with them agreeing to team.
  22. Loss
    Yeah, 1998.
  23. Loss
    Austin cuts a scorching promo on Mike Tyson. Normally I'd criticize this for reducing the Austin-Michaels title match, but this is an exception - the rare case of the main event not really being an afterthought, but needing to be secondary to the Austin-Tyson issue.
  24. Loss
    This is such an organic build and the perfect way to use Tyson to create interest in the WWF. I like that everyone knows there will be no Austin-Tyson, but that something is clearly going to happen. It's just a matter of what. Don King is great at selling us on Wrestlemania.
  25. Loss
    They show a condensed version of what happened the week before and then transition into media coverage of Mike Tyson's appearance on WWF TV narrated by Jim Ross. This was great.
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