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Even if you don't like the match as a whole it's a really impressive Windham performance carrying things.

Not that it makes it more acceptable but I'm pretty sure that only happened once.

You're selling him short on standout matches, especially since the period being referred to really covers the turn through his departure from the company in '89. Leading up to the turn, the two tag title switches with Arn/Tully were great. The Bigelow match at Starrcade was really good and there are also some tags building it up that I remember liking. The Gilbert match and subsequent tag with Steamboat and Flair are excellent, as is the title loss to Luger. The Dusty match is easily the standout individual Windham performance and we can go back and forth about the specifics of just how good the matches I mentioned were but I think you're selling his resume for that run short.

Austin stunning Keibler was really bad. Having said that, ending Raw with a non-sequitur giant beer bash on the day that his probation for the domestic abuse charges (which forbade him from drinking alcohol) ended felt like it was actively celebrating him beating up Debra.

It's not that I don't think it could be a misleading ad. When I saw the TV ad I thought it could very well be that and I made sure to word the article carefully and express some doubt about it. Having said that, Facebook event page says it's The Rock's "return to action after 8 years" and TheGarden.com (which I didn't check last night) says "The People's Champion-The Rock returns to action for the first time in 8 years to join John Cena and all your favorite WWE Superstars at "Survivor Series.". That's much more overt than the local TV ad was. If it's just "he will be there and will likely get involved physically," then, well, he already did that at Wrestlemania, so it wouldn't be the first time he did that in 8 years and that would just be stupid. Since his last match happened to be at MSG, why not "The Rock returns to the world's most famous arena after 8 years?" This show is not going to have any problems drawing live or on PPV. Hell, it especially goes for the live event in the building. The last MSG house show before the renovation (standard Raw line up plus HHH vs Sheamus) was easily the biggest house show of the year. This is going to be a big 4 PPV at MSG with The Rock doing SOMETHING. The show will sell out. There is no reason to do any deceptive early advertising (and the wording of the ads, especially the Facebook & MSG pages, is absolutely deceptive) for this show. Yes, it's wrestling and it's in their nature to lie even when they don't need to (I forget what it was specifically about but there was something during Linda McMahon's campaign where this was especially noticeable) but it seems really extraneous to do so here. This type of false advertising is not something that WWE has done in a very long time. All I can think of recently is merging singles matches into tags via a show-opening angle. If the last MSG show is any indication, then fans react positively to those, anyway. The Rock may not work a match on the show, but I think we need to let this play out a little more before making a definitive judgment.

There's a big difference between HHH working a dark match and The Rock working a match at Survivor Series. Regardless of whether or not it happens, that it's in the ad pipeline is interesting. Are they being intentionally misleading to try to give a boost to a show that's a guaranteed sellout? Is/was there a plan for Rock to work a match on the show? Etc.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/836663-...11-at-msg-in-ny Tag to heat up the Cena match? Punk singles? Something else that will make WM less special?

Gotcha. So...how did nobody notice this for eight years?

Actually he was originally from Oklahoma according to Gary Hart's book.

Not Barnett...right? Even though he wrote this years ago I don't think Barnett had any involvement there.

By the way: But did he grind his boots into Eddie Murphy's couch?

I'm with Keith in that it sounds like he might not necessarily talking about Barnett, but still, um...wow.

Circumstance should've known better after Mickie James got him in trouble over her more infamous photos being linked there.

Wasn't Flair on TV solely under a letter of intent in early '98?

So is what happened is that they were trolling but since they did it at work and the MarkedOut people traced the IPs they were screwed? Or am I getting it wrong?

Per Jeff's wife and Helms, he's attention whoring and not actually committing suicide. Lawyers, cops, etc: Has he committed (another) crime here since it was effectively a fake 911 call, just without an operator being kept busy?

I guess this goes here: Kurt Angle: Matt Hardy "has hit a low point in his life" Angle exaggerated some stuff in his story for sure but I was surprised by how humble he was. And if Hardy is in rehab, then whoever got him to see the light deserves a ton of credit.

Yes.

Hardys would be 2013 based on signing with WWE in 1998.

It went from age 35 or 15 years pro to 15 years pro or age 40 with 10 years pro immediately after Angle got in, which still looks fishy regardless of the intentions.

Didn't Modest and Daniels both claim afterwards that they were specifically told to do a total spotfest?

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I'm pretty sure it was the issue covering that PPV or one of the next two so it shouldn't be very hard.

I *think* Wade reported that in the Torch at the time.

Looks like he did admit it in the book. I only read it once via the library and didn't remember that part.