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Lethal is the worst on working on top. This match went way too long and bored me a lot.It had a lot of cool stuff in it and if edited well could come out ok. Translation it had a lot of fat to get to the meat.

A squash Moose fucked up his 1st big move and killed it for me. Thought Moose was the worst wrestler on the show.

I thought this was a great hoss battle. Hanson was a good FIP, but man that finish was the shits. Still confused about it.

This was tremendous live. I thought Daniels and Kazarian were going to be affiliated with KRD so I'm glad to be proved right. The only downside to the match was the face/heel dynamic. This was the match I so wanted to like and I did.

Having ACH lose to the Joes and Styles of the world ok. Page WTF

I enjoyed this more than Will. It was fun, but had flaws. I dug the arm work on Whitmer with Coleman and Ferrera working as a team. I liked the psychology of teasing the tag to Moose. The arm work didn't go anywhere. Moose got a hot tag and delivered weak looking head butts. A really bad choice on a hot tag. We get a dive train. Capped off by Moose doing one. The best one was Coleman's inside out Moonsault. I loved the finish as a way to build a future match.

Elgin is a hit or miss guy for me. I enjoyed the match, but it had its flaws. I felt it was to your turn my turn and 2 count over kill . Live Alexander is a great baby face who plays to the crowd really well and gets them behind him. Too bad they are turning him heel.

We get a live Fish Tank with Jay Lethal. Everyone is great . Lethal was incredible. He eyeballs Christine Jarrett . reDragon does some fun comedy. Lethal runs down Jay Briscoe. We get a kick ass brawl. KRD attack reDragon. Daniels,ACH, and Daniels out for the save. Am incredible piece of business.

Rowe gets over as a bad ass. We have Christine Jarrett in front of us . They tried to evict her for sitting in the wrong place. Security was wrong.

I liked this. It started out with schtick, but morphed into a straight laced match for the most part . I agree with Will about 2 straight comedy matches. Dalton Castle has a great act.

Agree. A super fun opener. Romantic Touch is a fun act.

Wil and I will be live in SA tonight for the ROH show. I'm super excited for my 1st ROH live show.

Technically 3-1 Sleeze. Your the best Young Boy the Titans could have. Lol

I wonder when Parv was listening if he got ill when Dylan mentioned Dibiase.

A small point that was mentioned, but something that would/could be fun to look at is bookers and their cliques.

This is happening early Sunday Morning. Parts me are glad they've kind of diluted the show. This gives the Bucks/Ropangi Vice an opportunity to have a killer match. AJ/Ibushi should be great. Will the guys work hard in the Multi mans on a big show. If they do, it could give the show a different dynamic that could only benefit NJPW.

So far this has been awesome. Saving the rest for my roadie to the SA ROH show tonight. I love Dylan's qualifier of liking Sting as a kid .

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Yohei Komatsu vs Sho Tanaka These guys work each all the time. So they've developed a great chemistry. Some real crisp mat work to start. Digging Komatsu holding on to the headlock. Komatsu starts working the back. Loving Tanaka's running forearm. The story of the match is the Boston Crab. A really heated rope break. Tanaka showing so much fight. Now Komatsu cinches in a 1/2 crab for the win. A really strong opener. 3 1/4* Jushin ‘Thunder’ Liger & Tiger Mask & Jay White vs KUSHIDA & Alex Shelley & Ryusuke Taguchi On paper this looks like a potential show stealer. Liger and Kushida start out. The vet just putting the youngster through the paces on the mat. Fun sequence. Taguchi and TM pair off. I've said it before but Taguchi is so much more entertaining in 6 mans. This was really nothing here. White and Shelley now pair off. White is a guy with huge upside. Liger again is in to punish Kushida. TM is in and he continues to work over Kushida. They are using quick tags to keep Kushida down. he tries a comeback to no avail. The 2 nd time he gets it. Taguchi with butt butts. All 3 run the gauntlet on Shelley. Time Splitters get a little pay back on Liger. The work in this was solid. The finish felt kinda flat. 2 1/4* Yuji Nagata & Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows & Cody Hall Everyone is all over the place to start. It settles down and we see the faces work over Anderson's arm along with their traditional spots. Chop exchange that Kojima gets the best of. Gallows in and he takes over. Kojima sells. Tag to Hall. Hall with some basic work. That really was bad. Tenzan works well with the champs. Overall, something was missing. 1 3/4* Mascara Dorada & Captain New Japan vs Tama Tonga & Kenny Omega This was the tale of 2 matches. 2* Hiroshi Tanahashi & Tomoaki Honma & Katsuyori Shibata & Togi Makabe & Hirooki Goto vs Shinsuke Nakamura & Toru Yano & Tomohiro Ishii & Kazushi Sakuraba & YOSHI-HASH I will say the Tanahashi/Yano interactions are pretty entertaining. Plus it gives Yano's bullshit some real meaning. In the past Yano would do his schtick just because . Now he's doing it to piss Tanahashi off. Loving Shibata and Sakuraba shooting for submissions. The Shibata/Honma stuff continues. Honma as FIP is good stuff. Chaos is doing a good job of punishing Honma. Big comeback by Honma that gets stopped in its tracks. Makabe and Ishii go through their stuff. Goto and Nakamura take center stage. These guys are having a great exchange. We get a 2nd FIP with Goto. Comeback time. Tanahashi misses a dive onto Yano. Finishing run is phenomenal. This match was awesome with everyone getting a chance to look great, well except Tanahashi. They combined good story telling, with great moments. 4 * Rocky Romero & Baretta & Kazuchika Okada vs Nick Jackson & Matt Jackson & Bad Luck Fale Both Bucks fall to Okada early so that brings Fale in. Bucks take control working over Romero They're real; Dicks here. Fale sits on him. Bucks infuriating Baretta Their were some nice cuy off spots. Finally, Romero hot tags Okada. Okada is a great hot tag with all his spots that are over. We get some momentum shifts, Eventually Bullet Club gets the win. 3 1/4* Kota Ibushi & Tetsuya Naito vs AJ Styles & Yujiro Takahashi We get some parity exchanges with Styles and Ibushi. Naito and Takahashi go at it with Naito with the early advantage. Takahashi starts rough housing. Styles in and he seems to be in control of Naito. Naito is FIP which he does ok. Hot tag to Ibushi. He's a whirlwind till Styles cuts him off. Some more back and forth. 2 1/4* A real solid show from NJPW.

Super Card of Honor ACH vs Mark Briscoe We do a little back and forth. Some trash talking from ACH gets him in trouble. Not for long some more back and forth. Good to see Briscoe punish ACH for being too flashy. Briscoe working on top. We get a miscue and they go right back to it. Their timing seems a little off now. ACH's run around the ring spot makes no sense in a singles match. Briscoe has done a good job of grounding ACH. ACH delivers a nasty German suplex. Mark Briscoe's experience was the key for his win. I feel these guys have a better match in them. 2 1/2* Elgin vs Kazarian Kazarian is using his speed to keep Elgin off balance. Soon enough Elgin nails Kazarian with a power move that hurt Kazarian's neck. Elgin begins to start working the neck. Does a chair tie into the corner post. Kazarian is just fighting Elgin. Elgin cuts him off with a shot to the neck. Elgin does a flip leg drop from the top. The flip is really not needed. Kazarian catches him in a cross armbar. Deadlift german by Elgin. I really liked Elgin working the neck, but absolutely gave Kazarian too many hope spots to the point it dilluted the heat segment. Another solid match that could have been better. 2 1/2* 6 man Mayhem Everett and Sydal start out super hot. We get some pairings. We get a little bit more of Alexander's heelness. Moose almost murders Everett. Several dives occur. Moose just potato tosses Sydal to the outside. Their are a lot of great moments in this match. Sydal steals a win. Super fun match. 3 1/4* Jacobs vs Whitmer NO DQ Brawl to start. Dueling chairs which I hate. Whitmer as a wrestler does nothing for me, but I like him as a bully character. We see tables, chairs and plunder involved in this brawl. This really isn't my cup of tea. I'm not a fan of choreographed brawling. 2* Daniels vs Strong I'm liking the start of this match. Both guys exchanging holds, and feeling each other out. Daniels working on top. Daniels misses a moonsault to the floor but lands on his feet. Strong counters with a back suplex on the apron. Strong targets the back and neck area. This was a nice meat and potato's match. 3 1/2* reDragon vs The Kingdom reDragon is my favorite tag team. I'm really digging this early on. The Kingdom is great at stooging, especially Taven. I love how Fish and O'Reilly have really cool ways to get to the arm.Kingdom starts their heat segment. O'Reilly is the FIP. They do a solid job working him over. Hot tag to Fish. Fish is all over them. Now both of reDragon are doing doubke team moves. Tom Lawler takes care of Maria. We get some momentum shifts. It's like free for all at this point. O'Reilly is selling big on the outside. Bennett and Fish pair off. KRD interferance and it backfires. Fish with a Falcon Arrow for 3. A super fun tag. 3 1/2* Lethal vs Liger I love Liger's intro. I love how the hardcores treat him like the legend he is. Liger working the mat. At age 50 he still can go. Lethal reacts well to Liger. Liger gets Lethal in an upside down surfboard and turns it into a punishing vertical chinlock. Liger focusing on the back. Now Liger ties Lethal up in a pretzel working a submission. Liger with a modified Indian Death Lock. Lethal to the outside and tricks Liger into a mistake. Lethal puts Liger in the barricade twice. Lethal's offense is pretty pedestrian. Koppo Kick by Liger gets some seperation. Strike exchange between the guys. Palm Strike on a missed Lethal Injection. Great nearfall by Lethal on the miss Liger dive. Lethal combination for a nearfall. Liger counters Lethal's dive into a nasty Brain Buster on the Floor. I'm not sure if Lethal's Brain Buster hurt more or Dylan's and Zellner's defeat on Johnny Sorrow's Brain Buster to Titans of Wrestling Kelly. We get a screw job finish. 2 1/4* Lethal really needs to learn to do some interesting when on top than just rely on his big moves. As a character he's great, but between the ropes he's got to keep things interesting between his token spots. Jay Briscoe vs Samoa Joe We start with some mat wrestling to work. Joe looks like he dung his ankle. Jay says fuck this and lets loose with strikes and Joe follows suit. Strike exchange, and then Jay hits a drop kick. Jay attempts a suplex to no avail. Jay tries softening him up and this time gets the suplex. We get a little hiccup and I think it's because of his injury. Joe's knee looks like it's in pain. Joe's using strikes to stay in control. Tope' by Joe to the outside. During the ole' Briscoe makes Joe eat a chair. Nice Joe counter on Briscoe's apron kick. Joe swings Briscoe into the guard rail. This time Joe gets the Ole' kick. Now we get back in the ring and we start building to something. I loved the power bomb turning into a Boston Crab, then into an STF, and then into something even nastier. Some more strike exchanges that ends with a nasty Joe kicking in Briscoes face. Joe signals for a Muscle Buster. Jay counters, then hits the Jay Driller. 3 1/2* Another good match on the card. Overall, another good show that was missing a great match. ROH continues to deliver. Here though I felt the show didn't come across as any more special wrestling wise. The commentating in studio hurt the show since it drowned out the noise of the audience. Their were a couple of things that surprised me. One I thought ACH was going over Mark Briscoe. The other one I thought Moose would win the 6 man mayhem bout.

Now this. Matt D as Ric Flair begging off.

Ist we have this.

Parv , " Yes Steven excellent point Fuji does wrestle like he's a manager." I love unintentional comedy.

It's on the Observer site. Where did you find this, btw? Not doubting you, I just don't see it anywhere. http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/96-wwe-news/41858-wwe-network-update-and-lots-of-news