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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
I didn't watch it but it caused a bit of a stir on Twitter. -
Shoots Review and Preview thread
flyonthewall2983 replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Megathread archive
I thought them getting Davey Boy back was an attempt to get more Hart family members on Vince's side after Owen's death. -
[1991-08-26-WWF-Summerslam] A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in August 1991
I like that the reception is taken out of the DVD version. Kind of a bland and over-acted skit to start an otherwise intense and good rivalry.- 11 replies
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[1991-10-12-WWF-Superstars] Interview: Ric Flair
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in October 1991
The thing that hurt the Flair/Heenan dynamic was that Bobby (aside from those house shows against Hogan) basically managed from behind the booth and would do interviews like this. It had it's good (Bobby at the Royal Rumble) to it, but it would get grating at times to hear him be a cheerleader behind the booth. -
When did you read this, what year was given on Ted Turner's possible retirement, and when did he actually retire? It was in the news for a little while in the early 2000's, definitely pre 9/11 and I think while WCW was still in business. Wiki said he resigned from Time Warner as vice chairman in 2003 and from the board of directors a few years later.
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Ted's passion for it came out of the loyalty to how well the product served his network in the 70's. He let it ebb and flow through some rough waters in the early 90's, when wrestling hit a staggering low compared to the previous decade. Time Warner let it slide because it was making big money for them, but I have no doubt that the knives were out once things started to slip. It's a good example of how corporate culture ruined television.
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As much as Bischoff is to blame, I think in the bigger picture of things he's a small part of what let WCW die on the vine. When one began to read in the news that Ted Turner was talking about retirement, I'd kind of suspected the jig was up. I can't imagine "passion for pro wrestling" was high on the list of anybody who replaced him, if at all.
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Far from a clinic, but his Starrcade match with Flair rates highly for me. There's a thread on it in the '93 yearbook and I explain my feelings why. But Sting was by far his best opponent in WCW, and maybe in North America since he never really clicked with anyone like that again once he went to the WWF.
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He said it in a joking manner no different than if you would have heard him say it in the broadcast booth, that's all I took it as. In retrospect he didn't seem too pleased to be there, with marks like me asking him tired questions and having to put up with the local rock station (who sponsored the event) playing at full blast.
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Bobby probably legit hated Tony before this night. I say this because the time I met him for an autograph session at a record store earlier that year (I even remember when it was, because it was the day before Owen died), I engaged in a brief Q&A with him. Because it was a record store I asked him what music he liked and he gave a pretty non-descriptive answer and the follow-up was "what does Tony like?". His response was "little boys in closets".
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Kayfabe-wise I like to think that Bobby Heenan got The Barbarian because he liked the job he did beating up both Hogan and Warrior when they were down and out when he came in. Perfect winning probably would have been a good scenario, but Hogan winning just made him look stronger going into Toronto I think.
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New Truly Independent ECW Documentary
flyonthewall2983 replied to Dylan Waco's topic in Pro Wrestling
I found it to have some of the same problems the World Class doc had (editing issues, footage shot on low-grade digital or VHS), but at least that one had a more interesting through-line and engaging story on several levels. I felt this one was really for the fans, and if their only aim was to try and bring non-fans to this it would have failed miserably. That said, I liked it as a wrestling fan. I felt the "Extreme Reunion" stuff was necessary to show how things have changed. The Balls Mahoney footage in particular was quite heartbreaking compared to his 2001 interview where he was (relatively) more alert and witty and a good story-teller to have me laughing at the story of the riot he cause (and forgot about!). I thought it was hilarious that the first sound you hear in the documentary is Alfonso's whistle. Likewise hilarious is Douglas' Livestrong gear. I liked Billy Corgan, especially the footage in the bonus stuff of the angle he was involved in. Am I wrong, or didn't he show up in ECW once before this and actually play a song in the ring? I thought I heard about this once in the late 90's, before the TNN era. -
Shoots Review and Preview thread
flyonthewall2983 replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Megathread archive
Does Honky really like anyone? Everything I've seen him do is bitch, bitch, bitch. -
Shoots Review and Preview thread
flyonthewall2983 replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Megathread archive
I've never heard any bad things about him, except from Orndorff of course. -
WWF hiring him feels more like they got him because they were licking their chops after WCW raided their talent pool. He worked as well as he could, and had some great matches, but I blame the company more for not knowing how to utilize him. He would have been great in ECW, but he must have been way above their pay grade compared to what he would get in Japan and other places.
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It's a damn shame that he was fired from WCW when he was. He could have had some legendary big man matches with guys like Tenta and Meng. Seeing him and a young Big Show do battle would have been great too.
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[1991-10-05-WWF-Superstars] Sgt. Slaughter vignette
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in October 1991
I wonder if it would have been better if they just had Slaughter go away for awhile, and have a more abrupt face turn when he came back. I have a feeling the turn they eventually did was Remus wanting to turn back and deflect the negative attention from the public he was getting. And for what it's worth, the turn worked. He wasn't a top babyface, but they pretty much stopped booing him as I recall. -
Shoots Review and Preview thread
flyonthewall2983 replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Megathread archive
That could be like waiting to watch dry paint crack. Luger definitely comes across as having treated it as a job. It might be interesting if he had any insight into what went on with Hogan during this time. I know they interviewed Jake Roberts for something but it was canned. I'd LOVE to see him do a '91 Timeline, as it was an interesting year for him in WWF. -
Shoots Review and Preview thread
flyonthewall2983 replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Megathread archive
His RF interview was like watching paint dry. -
Shoots Review and Preview thread
flyonthewall2983 replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Megathread archive
Didn't he date Mulligan's daughter (now his wife) first before getting into it? -
[1991-08-26-WWF-Summerslam] Ted DiBiase vs Virgil
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in August 1991
I liked the flip he did once he was handed the belt. A sort-of good way to end the feud, even though it really ended with Repo Man stealing it and giving it back to Ted to get that character over if I remember correctly. A little strange to me that Piper didn't get out of the booth to celebrate with him. First guess would be they were on a tight schedule and couldn't drag out the victory as much as they could have. -
A few other guys seemed to have just done this match as a cameo, something they still do now. I never liked this Rumble, way too short. Shawn could have done a full-length Rumble in his sleep back then.
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This was the last regular MSG show to be broadcast on their network wasn't it?
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
I'm sure they knew it was going to be a rather infamous spot. I don't think Rock was ever more hated as a heel before or since that night. -
Shoots Review and Preview thread
flyonthewall2983 replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Megathread archive
Women can be as freaky as men, believe me.