Phil Schneider

Come on, it's clearly legit now. Gregh is a guy with some quirks, but he is also a guy rich enough that he would just give ROH some cash to keep it afloat before running some con job.

Of course it will be on DVD, everything ROH does is on DVD. They are a DVD company.

Man I want to see Buddy Landell go to a draw with rookie Akira Taue. I assume that isn't on tape anywhere?

Hey Loss, make sure you crosspost your reviews, you are the first guy to watch some of these, you can set the debate.

You just hate him because he's black

Okay that has to be BINGO right there

To be fair that was the Boston show, Nowitski was backstage at the Edison show. So Necro was no-selling a chair shot the day before Nowitski showed up. I am sure he wouldn't do something like that post Nowitski visit.

It was really good, It would probably be in the low 30's but when I watched it, I didn't think it was as good as the 25th match on my list

Here is my current list, I haven't written up the third Danielson v. Morishima match yet, but I imagine that will find a spot in the top 10. All of these are reviewed over at Segunda Caidia http://segundacaida.blogspot.com 1. Nigel McGuinness v. Bryan Danielson ROH 6/23 2. Nigel McGuinness v. Samoa Joe ROH 3/3 3. John Cena v. Umaga WWE 1/28 4. Eddie Kingston v. Chris Hero IWA-MS 9/29 5. Bryan Danielson v. Takeshi Morishima ROH 8/25 6. Nigel McGuinness v. Takeshi Morishima ROH 4/14 7. Chris Harris v. James Storm TNA 5/13 8. Jimmy Jacobs v. B.J. Whitmer ROH 3/4 9. Samoa Joe v. Takeshi Morishima ROH 2/16 10. Matt Hardy v. Finlay WWE 6/19 11. Shawn Micheals v. John Cena WWE 4/23 12. Jimmy Jacobs v. B.J. Whitmer ROH 3/31 13. Solar 1/Mano Negra v. Negro Navarro/Black Terry Lucha Libre VIP 3/10 14. MNM v. Hardy Boyz WWE 1/28 15. Briscoes v. Ricky Marvin/Kontaro Suzuki NOAH 1/21 16. Bryan Danielson/Takeshi Morishima v. KENTA/Nigel McGuiness ROH 5/12 17. John Cena v. Great Khali 5/20 18. Mitsuhara Misawa v. Bison Smith NOAH 6/3 19. John Cena v. King Booker v. Bobby Lashley v. Mick Foley v. Randy Orton WWE 6/24 20. Necro Butcher v. Jay Briscoe ROH 21. Briscoes v. Murder City Machine Guns ROH 4/28 22. Finlay v. Undertaker 3/6 WWE 23. Briscoes v. Kevin Steen/El Generico ROH 4/14 24. Colt Cabana v. Jimmy Jacobs ROH 2/24 25. Takeshi Sasaki v. Yuki Miyamoto BJW 3/14

Projects if I could PM'd you. -- Loss, 01/10

Jesus that list of best matches is embarrassing

So you literally think that, aside from Savage/Steamboat, that there wasn't a single match from the WWF after 1984 which deserved to make a best-of list? Whoa. That's some pretty intense hatred. Here are the top 20 WWF matches of the 1980's, we got 119 ballots from people who watched 100 matches and ranked them, hard to argue against this being consensus. 1 Sgt Slaughter vs Iron Sheik (6/16/84 MSG) 2 Ricky Steamboat vs Randy Savage (3/29/87 Pontiac MI Wrestlemania 3) 3 Adrian Adonis/Dick Murdoch vs Brisco Brothers (12/28/84 MSG) 4 Bret Hart vs Randy Savage (11/11/87 Seattle WA aired SNME 11/28/87) 5 Bret Hart vs Mr Perfect (10/2/89 Wheeling WV) 6 Bob Backlund vs Adrian Adonis (1/18/82 MSG) 7 Greg Valentine vs Ron Garvin (9/30/89 MSG) 8 Glamour Girls vs Jumping Bomb Angels (11/24/87 MSG) 9 Ricky Steamboat vs Jake Roberts (8/9/86 Boston MA) 10 Sgt Slaughter vs Iron Sheik (5/21/84 MSG) 11 Ultimate Warrior vs Rick Rude (8/28/89 East Rutherford NJ Summerslam) 12 Brainbusters vs Hart Foundation (8/28/89 East Rutherford NJ Summerslam) 13 Barry Windham vs Dick Murdoch (2/16/85 Philadelphia PA) 14 Dynamite Kid vs Bret Hart (9/14/85 Landover MD) 15 British Bulldogs vs Hart Foundation (9/23/85 MSG) 16 Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat (7/27/86 Toronto Ontario) 17 Bret Hart vs Ted DiBiase (3/8/89 Odessa TX aired Prime Time 3/20/89) 18 Ricky Steamboat vs Bret Hart (3/8/86 Boston MA) 19 Ricky Steamboat vs Bob Orton Jr (7/20/85 Landover MD) 20 Hulk Hogan vs Big Bossman (3/18/89 MSG) Match 1 and 2 pretty clearly belong on any list of the best matches from the 1980's. After those two, I can't see anyone arguing for any of the other matches belonging on a top 100 list. I liked Adonis/Murdoch v. Briscos a bunch, but for 1980's tags? There are at least a dozen Rock and Roll Express matches which kill this, ignoring Japan, Mexico and every other team in American besides the Rock and Roll Express. Hell Dick Murdoch has at least 5 or 6 better matches on the Watts set alone. I had Hogan v. Bossman in a cage really high on my list, I really dug that match, but I doubt it cracks a top 20 list of 1980's cage matches, much less a list of matches in total. Seriously read that list over and tell us what belongs.

I think he means Watts pushing Barbarian as a main event guy against Simmons in WCW, which totally ruled BTW

I wonder if being a promoter's son is a huge issue. It seems a fair share of the worst second-generation wrestlers come from such families. Tully Blanchard? David Von Erich? Kevin Von Erich? Kerry Von Erich? Gino Hernandez? Eddie Guerrerro? Chavo Guerrerro? Hector Guerrerro? Mondo Guerrerro? Dory Funk Jr.? Terry Funk?

Your Carlito hate is weird, I am months behind on Smackdown and rarely watch RAW, but both his PPV match with Flair and post Crossgate SD match with Flair were very good.