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I'm sure if it came down to it, even indy darling Bryan Danielson would choose working Summerslam over whatever promotion he's booked for next month. Not saying I think he's going to show up, but I wouldn't consider his indy bookings as ironclad proof he won't.

It appears that his failure to turn TNA into a viable competitor has caused everyone to notice Emperor Eric has no clothes. Nothing left for him to do now but last out at promotions designed to be small and mock them for it. Hell, I'd wager ROH is probably still turning somewhat of a profit while all Eric's been able to do with TNA is to get them further indebted to Spike. Come to think about it, we really shouldn't be surprised his whole game plan boiled down to "get the TV network to pay the contracts for all the big names".

Terry Taylor was doing a lot of booking for TNA prior to Russo/Bischoff/Hogan, was he not? That would seem to be as big a reason TNA went over the cliff as much as anything else.

I don't know how (or if it even does) translate to making money, but I'd wager ROH shows outdraw practically every TNA event ever not held in Orlando.

Also, I would think that with practically every wrestler who should be in (in terms of people who are currently eligible) already being in, perhaps the next year or two should focus on non wrestlers until we get to the point where more guys are added to the ballot that aren't borderline.

I would guess Lennon is in because he was a California guy and Dave probably grew up watching him on TV. I wonder if anyone's ever asked Dave about Howard, I recall back when Fink was named for the WWE HOF, Dave was adamant about how despite WWE largely was doing it for laughs he deserved to be in since he was one of the best announcers ever.

So despite being a WON subscriber for a while now, I never really checked out THE BOARD~! until tonight. I think the head exploding scene from Scanners would not do any justice to my reaction. Jesus Christ.....it's like a day care center for people who took the little bus to school. The only redeeming thing was the thread that had links to AAA/CMLL TV so I don't have spend time maintaining ratios at PWT. Ironically KidZombie was running that thread and I last saw him having an epic meltdown on Crazymax.

Well that certainly didn't work out as expected, did it?

If anyone was expecting any shocking revelations from Dixie (or any wrestling promoter), they deserve all the disappointment they get. I love how everyone calls her stupid and clueless yet they expect her to be all "my company sucks and everyone who works for me sucks".

As much as we criticize poor Bryan, I have to give him props for his line on WOL last night when he dubbed Bret and Cena the Jean Shorts Express. I LOL'd.

I was thinking about the Flair-Dusty wars of 1988 the other day and wondering who really ended up winning that. Dusty did his time in polka dots for Vince, but ended up back in WCW almost in the same spot he was before. He was able to hang around more or less with WCW to the end and now has a sweet gig booking FCW for Vince. Flair had his great 1989, but that quickly turned into the Black Scorpion fiasco. He then spent the rest of the 90s being driven crazy by various clueless Turner executives when not being abused by the booking, and now he runs around in his underwear in TNA.

I think it was due to most of the WWF braintrust being distracted by one scandal after another, and by the time they were able to put 100% of the focus back on wrestling, WCW had jumped ahead of them.

I would expect that Bryan or whoever inherits the WON from Dave would probably put him in the HOF at the first opportunity. As much as we give him shit (deservedly more often than not), I don't think there are too many people ever who actually cared about wrestling more than Dave. His writing during the steroid trials probably would have won him awards if it was written for a mainstream newspaper, and that's why it was really sad when you could see there was a point when it was obvious things were never going to change and Dave was just like "fuck it". You could chalk it up to youthful Dave thinking he could play some part in changing the world, but there was something heartbreaking over seeing the exact time someone's spirit was broken being commemorated in print. sek, do you mean Dave was specifically heartbroken over the verdict in the trial or just a general "The business will never change" way? A general "business will never change" way. He really poured his heart into his writing, and I think he figured if nothing else things would change since Vince came so close to going to jail for it. But when it was clear that the WWF saw his acquittal as a green light to keep doing what they've been doing, there was a noticeable change in his tone. Then like jdw mentioned, the late 90s turned into a grind for him, and I think that's what turned him into the guy we know today who sometimes gives the appearance of not even liking pro wrestling.

Que? There was a photo of her on WWE.com, someone posted it on DVDVR (I think) and after several "OMG SO HOT" replies, Bix had to be the one to point out that she looked like a tranny in that photo and the rest of the series that was posted. It really was hard to miss, and the sexual confusion that followed was hilarious. *edit* Loss posted it, I can't believe the dog-piling that occurred when it was pointed out she had quite the Dick Tracy-esque lantern jaw.

I would think that is something you could say about almost everyone involved in wrestling besides Vince McMahon. Wouldn't seem fair to hold that against Apter when it's the same thing that killed every territory. At least PWI is still around in 2010.

Hall, Roberts, and Hardy have all made public spectacles of themselves because of their drinking/drug use. Most guys are better than that when it comes to keeping their partying on the down low. Also how long were those guys doing what they were doing before it became public knowledge? All of them were in the business for at least 10 years before the really wild tales started coming out. The steroid stuff I agree with you 100%. I can't tell you how many times I would get into arguments with people who would insist that guys like Eddie couldn't be on enhancement drugs because they weren't ripped like Batista. Or that all the women on the WWE roster could have washboard abs (and also start to develop mannish features) without taking any kind of supplement.

I would expect that Bryan or whoever inherits the WON from Dave would probably put him in the HOF at the first opportunity. As much as we give him shit (deservedly more often than not), I don't think there are too many people ever who actually cared about wrestling more than Dave. His writing during the steroid trials probably would have won him awards if it was written for a mainstream newspaper, and that's why it was really sad when you could see there was a point when it was obvious things were never going to change and Dave was just like "fuck it". You could chalk it up to youthful Dave thinking he could play some part in changing the world, but there was something heartbreaking over seeing the exact time someone's spirit was broken being commemorated in print.

Not saying that it's correct all the time, but considering how widespread cocaine use was in the 80s among people with high incomes plus the usual connection between wrestlers and substances that relieve pain, it's not entirely a stretch to suspect a large amount of pro wrestlers active in the 80s did cocaine. Especially since, you know, a lot of them have admitted they did either directly or wink-wink between the lines style. You don't need to be an MD or have vast personal experiences with cocaine to be able to tell that someone is off their gourd high. I mean, I guess it's possible that Roddy Piper just might have had a lifelong struggle with ADHD, but I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that he just might have been riding the rails once or twice prior to cutting a promo.

So I guess in another week you'll come back and apologize like the last time you snapped out on the board?

Apter is a no brainer, IMO. His magazines promoted territories better than half of them promoted themselves. I remember following angles in Florida and Oregon solely by their coverage in the Apter mags since they weren't on TV here.

Not to mention Domino's is running a campaign now where they basically say their pizza has been shitty but they improved it and it's better now. They aren't a family business but it's essentially the same tactic.

The thing about the Sleaze Thread at DVDVR is that it got a lot of people to join the board, and a lot of the old timers were pissed that people were starting threads about Jimmy Valiant's shitting habits instead of discussing the latest Japanese indy fed. That led to the mods doing things like banning people for even mentioning it, which of course only increased interest since making things taboo never makes them go away. Also DVDVR was hacked and/or had server issues more than any large message board I can recall. I guess that's what you get when your IT guy was a creep with a Transformers and POV blowjob fetishes.

Hell, his angle in 1989 in the NWA was that he was a crazy old man wanting one more run on top.

Terry's second career as a brawler/hardcore legend wasn't painfully embarrassing to watch as Flair's second act has been at times.

I just assumed Sonnen was trying to get people interested in purchasing the fisticuffs event he was taking part in. If that's considered "working" now, then anyone who ever tried to get someone interested in anything ever can be considered a "worker".