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So in the shock of Edge's retirement, will anyone remember Primo nearly doing to Sin Cara what Jim Duggan did to Alex Wright by almost screwing up his debut match? If you didn't see it, the finish was a spot off the top rope, Primo slipped off the ropes and nearly shoot crotched himself, and Sin tumbled all the way to the floor. The announcers sort of covered it, but that's what I was afraid of when I first heard about him being signed: how many people in WWE are going to be able to take his offense without making one or both people in the match look silly?

Word is coming out that the segment on RAW tonight was 100% legit. Edge has been one of the guys Dave has been blind item-ing about when he was talking about a top WWE guy thinking about retiring soon, and recent tests showed more damage to his rebuilt neck. Apparently they just gave him a mic and told him he could say goodbye however he wanted. Looks like they're going to do an angle on Smackdown to set up how they're going to fill the title, kind of shocking to have this happen all of a sudden.

It's a lot easier to get guys over, even if it's just as a midcard act, if they're allowed to showcase what they can do occasionally. It would create better builds for PPVs since it wouldn't be filled with matches you've seen a million times already, the only reason I can see why they wouldn't is because now giving away matches on TV is the new How Things Are Done and no one wants to change it.

The retirement stip was supposed to be legit, Vince wanted him in a non wrestling role. Savage felt he had more to offer, and obviously he did.

I don't disagree with the people who suspect he's working, but at this stage who's he working? Unless his goal is to go to the grave with the entire world pissed at him, I don't see a payoff.

I wasn't commenting on you, just how it's bullshit for them to start giving a guy a reputation (which for all but a few guys is an insurmountable burial) when he probably isn't even aware of what they're saying about him.

Didn't he bypass the English classes along with developmental? The only people backstage who could understand him would be Rey and I'm guessing probably Chavo/Vickie. Also isn't it likely if he is talking about taking masks/hair it's because only someone booked as a top guy like he was would have taken as many as he did. It's kind of a "shoot accomplishment" in a way since it's a sign of how big a draw someone is in Mexico.

Sometimes it seems like Russo's biggest problem is that he's convinced himself he's the smartest guy in the room, and neither WCW or TNA had anyone around to tell him otherwise.

I find this somewhat surprising. I would have thought that dishonorable distinction would be levied upon someone like Vince or to a lesser degree, Benoit. Not saying Russo is not on the list, just never thought he would be #1. Honestly, the only people who think Vince damaged pro wrestling are bitter old carnies who worked for (or ran) territories that didn't see what Vince saw.

Sid throwing Hogan out of the Rumble was one of the defining moments of fans rejecting what was being pushed, and it's kind of surprising how little it's spoken about now.

So is that WWE corporate link basically saying HHH was responsible for hiring Mistico? The thought of him watching CMLL tapes to discover new talent is amusing to me.

I liked Bret shooting down the "no one was sure if Andre would do business/Hogan was afraid of a shoot" myth down. Patterson trying to sell that Andre was in the gym 6 days a week to be in shape for WM3 was pretty funny considering another tidbit revealed was that the famous motorized ring carts came about since it was doubtful Andre could walk that far to the ring.

I find it hard to believe he thought "belt" was a wrestling only term, you don't have to be a superfan to know it's a common term anywhere title belts are used. It's also kind of hard to believe he'd ask a question to someone backstage that would make him appear to be such a dumbass. Is Matt Hardy giving Dave exclusives again?

Sin Cara using the old Spirit Squad trampoline to nearly clothesline himself into the top rope wasn't exactly impressive. It did get better, but it wasn't exactly what you'd expect after all the hype videos. Plus based on houseshow reports, they let him do his flashy Mistico stuff the first night and the rest of the time they have him be Generic FCW High Flyer Guy (which he apparently did better than anyone but still) so it kind of makes you wonder why'd they bother signing him if they won't let him do any of the stuff that got him noticed. Also I read Dave's deal with Miz as more frustration at them never giving him a clean win or going strong over anyone and seeming being content in getting him over by just telling people he's a big star. I kind of agree with him, especially how they had Alberto go out and kick the shit out of Evan Bourne and that's more than they let Miz do in months. They clearly like how he goes on TV and is really good doing the kind of mainstream stuff Vince gets a boner over, but not enough to actually have their champion win a match cleanly.

Didn't someone (Shane?) suggest getting rid of the ring at some point in the 90s?

I'm not a psychologist nor do I play one on TV, but man it sure seems like he has all the earmarks of bipolar disorder.

Someone not long ago asked him how he can be a wrestler without painkillers and his response was "I'm not a pussy". Then someone else asked if he was saying every wrestler who takes painkillers is a pussy and he said yes. The best part is that WWE wants everyone to be their gimmick on social media sites, so him being an asshole to everyone fits perfectly with that.

No, but then I've never used slurs at work either. I don't think something you have to do because you screwed up should necessarily be entertaining.

Does Dave have something he'd like to say to the rest of the class? Yeah, it's really being slept on that while he doesn't want gay bashing in wrestling he seems to have a certain antipathy towards GLAAD itself.

Speaking of arrogant, anyone listen to the latest WO radio where they recap RAW? Dave and Bryan believe the Taker/HHH/HBK segment ended with HHH and HBK having a plan on how to win the match, but when Hunter asked Shawn to reveal it, Shawn got cold feet. They mention that everyone else on the board (and everyone else I've seen talk about it) saw it as Hunter asking Shawn to tell Taker he thinks HHH will beat him, but Shawn now isn't sure he can. Dave's response? A laughing "well... they're wrong". It came off as smarmy and douchebaggy as possible, and ironic considering how often they bash companies for insulting their paying customers.

The "color" comment along with him implying Rock didn't like a white boy trying to rap did seem to be kind of implying racial overtones, but if there's a guy not to play the race card against it would be Rock. If anything, it showed how awesome a heel Cena could be if they ever stop being afraid of the backlash of angry 7 year olds.

It should be noted tonight's promo was the best Cena has done in this program or any other in a long, long time. It's unfortunate this is what it took for the writers to stop being lazy, but it shows it's possible to not have to rely on middle school "ur gay" type jokes.

I thought Bud Light was pissed when Brock did his post fight promo where he said he was going home to fuck his wife and have a Miller light. Also I tend to agree with this partly being Cole going into business for himself. He's mentioned before he doesn't like Twitter and the "WWE suits" made him have an account. He hasn't posted an update since his apology that I've seen, he may have been trying to torpedo his own account, albeit the worst way possible.

Scott Hall went downhill fast, mainly due to substances, also due to WCW afraid to cut him loose. Carlito was so demotivated they booked Ric Flair to rip him a new asshole during an episode of RAW.

What was more insulting was Cole's "apology" where he stated it wasn't taken the way he meant it, but how many ways is there to construe calling someone a faggot? "I'm sorry everyone misunderstood me" is the most annoying method of saying sorry-but-not-really.