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It would seem like the answer almost every time to the question "why is this obviously qualified guy not in the WON HOF" is simply a lack of people pushing his candidacy. Non US/Canadian guys who aren't main eventers need to get someone to really lobby on their behalf, or else they just don't gain any traction. Also does Dave have any retired Japanese wrestlers voting on the HOF? It would seem that would be a hard thing to overcome if the wrestler voting block has no idea who you are.
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That was certainly a thing, all of a sudden he's all "so yeah I'm gay and also we have a son now". I mean, good for him on both counts, but from a dude who was so intent on separating work and personal lives it was a surprising thing to read plastered on the internets. However, I do fear that any future criticism of Keller's writing ends up being labeled as gay bashing. Considering how discussion of pro wrestling online tends to go, you know it's going to happen.
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Also the endless MSG cards from the 70s-80s, which were interesting to me at first since I didn't have access to the MSG network growing up, but now it's more "Oh Jesus, another collection of 20 minute jobber matches and non-finishes in the main events".
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"He's ambitiously stupid" - Why Scott Keith's new book is scary bad
sek69 replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
Scoots gets called on his flippy flop regarding Taker: Scooty Poot sez: Of course as usual he no-sells two big points... A. Taker's matches really haven't changed that much other than him adding some (as WWE calls it) "MMA style strikes", which is something Keith generally hates in a pro wres environment. B. When Taker started doing the MMA stuff, he'd regularly mock him for it in his show reviews. Now suddenly it's the reason for his 180 on the guy. -
The greatest things ever written on wrestling message boards
sek69 replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
Don't forget there's sometimes subdivisions to the main rules for different countries. Apparently people from Memphis are descended from Mexicans, since piledrivers kill them dead too. -
Being technology-impaired is a poor excuse for running ads from a known pedo (I know almost everyone in the biz is scummy to some degree but he was on the news for it for chrissakes). It does kind of make him look bad from a journalistic standpoint when he's spent so much time railing on the drugs/spousal abuse/steroid problems in the major feds but accepts advertisements from a company run by a guy caught in a pedophilia sting. Things like the WWF scandals in the 90s and the Jerry Lawler rumors can always be defended as just that, rumor. Especially when it seems like almost everyone who went public against the WWF ended up being revealed as in it for the money. The RF stuff is pretty undeniable, the only reason he didn't end up in jail over it is because he was caught by a group that is known for being overzealous in their pursuits instead of the police. I guess if the "he wasn't convicted" defense is all anyone can hang their hat on, maybe wrestling fans are more soulless than I gave them credit for. IMO it sounds too much like people who defend OJ or insist Benoit was framed.
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Dave definitely has had RF ads after the incident took place, I remember in particular one of Dave's daily updates around Halloween 2007 featured him mentioning picking his kid up from school and seeing all the Rey Misterio masks. Due to unfortunate ad placement, there was one of those animated GIF ads for the latest RF shoot right next to it, which added a layer of unintentional creepy.
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It does bear the question I've always wondered, he makes comments like that about (apparently) the WWF scandals, but he still accepts advertising from RF which is something that always bothered me. Dave's always the first guy to get on a soapbox about how rasslin's a scummy business and always will be, yet he gladly lines his pockets with ad cash from a pedo.
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The JBL thing was puzzling. I figure he's hurting and all, but he could have had a regular match and just let Rey do all the bumping and have the usual slip-on-a-banana-peel ending. Instead we got a 20 second match and JBL having a tantrum and quitting for his big WM sendoff. I'm surprised JR didn't pull out the "he took his ball and went home" line for the occasion. Also I would bet that the match listing posted above was the scheduled list at one point (Rey mentioned in a radio interview that he was under the belief his match was going to open the show), but WWE has been known to flip out as of late when stuff hits the net.
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Slam! Wrestling article on anti-semitism in pro wrestling
sek69 replied to Bix's topic in Pro Wrestling
Well he usually did, does that make him racist? Also I have no doubt that a man referred to as Captain Redneck was not at all unfamiliar with dropping n-bombs and whatnot, but that doesn't make Dusty racist. I'm sure we all have a friend or co-worker we hang with that's a little too loose with certain terminologies. -
Slam! Wrestling article on anti-semitism in pro wrestling
sek69 replied to Bix's topic in Pro Wrestling
I don't see how Dusty could be considered racist other than being a product of his time. Hell, his whole gimmick was basically a white soul brother, which sounds racist but he was probably more over with the black audience than pretty much almost every black wrestler ever. Like, I doubt Dusty was a dues-paying member of the NAACP, but in terms of racist dudes in pro wrestling I doubt he's even in the top 50. Also, I was assuming the other racist Heyman was referring to was Michael Hayes in light of his comments re: Mark Henry. -
Oh man, Leena. I vaguely remember her at the end of my time there. She was the ultimate "I'm a female posting on a male oriented board, pay attention to me" type. Then again, except for a select few (most of whom ended up on places like here anyway) that board was mostly full of shitheads. It is a descendant of Scooter's old playground after all.
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Someone really needs to tell Cena that it's getting pretty embarrassing for him to keep being Vince's sockpuppet for bashing the Rock. Although it'll make it that much more hilarious when he has his eventual falling out that all WWE headliners have at some point.
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Well yes, VKM wasn't the first guy to make something out of nothing (or not much) as a promoter, but Superstar is definitely the mold for the body type he's been looking for ever since.
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I think since Vince Jr has shown he can make big stars out of people with an abundance of charisma and not much else, it's not a stretch to extrapolate that Superstar would have been the same way. I mean, he's pretty much the prototype of what VKM looks for in a Sports Entertainer.
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I think most people who watched it were just happy to see him in the ring again after facing cancer and were willing to overlook his actual performance in light of him actually still being alive. I don't think his subsequent matches were any better/worse than his return, it's just now people are starting to look at them more critically than "wow it's great to just see him".
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"Macho Madness: The Randy Savage Ultimate Collection"
sek69 replied to stunning_grover's topic in Megathread archive
"Hey there Steph, you wanna snap into my Slim Jim tonight?" -
I don't know if he could have been Hogan since that was a once-in-a-lifetime thing, but a face Superstar could have done big business had Vince Sr believed in babyfaces that weren't bland and/or ethnic stereotypes.
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It's amazing to see Vince have his random meltdowns over the internet, it really shows how he can't stand that there's a thing that exists that talks about wrestling and he can't directly control it. Also amazing how each time Vince issues one of his "TALK TO THE SHEETS AND YOU'RE FIRED" promos, there's detailed descriptions of his meltdown in the next Observer. It's like Meltz is the Princess Leia to Darth Vince, the tighter his grip the more star systems slip through his fingers.
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"Macho Madness: The Randy Savage Ultimate Collection"
sek69 replied to stunning_grover's topic in Megathread archive
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the real reason, that Vince knows all the stories are bullshit but also everyone in the company seems to believe its true so working with Savage would make Vince look like a horrible person. -
"Macho Madness: The Randy Savage Ultimate Collection"
sek69 replied to stunning_grover's topic in Megathread archive
I would take anything said by someone raised by the undisputed all time world champion of bullshitting with just a little grain of salt. Also speaking of rumors involving Savage, wasn't the alleged reason Hulk was sporting a shiner at WM 9 that Savage popped him in the eye because he thought he was trying to fuck or had been fucking Liz? -
I guess "this card is going to bomb" is the new internet meme, everyone seems to be saying it but no one can explain why. Personally the only matches that look disappointing are the Jericho match and the JBL/Rey match, and the latter only because they couldn't have made it more of an obvious "lets get this guy on the card" match for Rey. I read someone's fantasy booking for the Jericho match where he takes out the legends leading up to WM, leaving Lawler to defend their honor, and that's really the only way this could be saved as the 3 guys they have in it now are too old/injured to do anything of note. I guess Steamboat could possibly have a possible match but I'd hate to see him shatter his spine in a meaningless match and be this era's Paul Orndorff.
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"He's ambitiously stupid" - Why Scott Keith's new book is scary bad
sek69 replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
Yeah really. It's one thing to redo a review to reflect your own changing opinions, but more often than not his are done to reflect the changing conventional smark wisdom of the day. Heaven forbid anyone ever look back and see he once thought Taker was done for 8 years ago or that he liked HHH. We can't have that now. -
"He's ambitiously stupid" - Why Scott Keith's new book is scary bad
sek69 replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
Since Scoots reposts all his past WM rants this time of year, I found some more classic views on women wrestling in the WM X-8 rant: Now I've thought it was kind of lame how the women always throw forearms instead of punches but I never thought the solution should be for them to be shoot punching each other in the face. Also he's hinting at a WM X-7 (god I'm glad they stopped labeling them X-whatever) rerant, so someone should find the original and see what embarrassing viewpoints he's trying to erase. -
"Macho Madness: The Randy Savage Ultimate Collection"
sek69 replied to stunning_grover's topic in Megathread archive
Vince also has an inner circle of trusted people who handle a lot of the business deals you mentioned. Also I don't think anyone's comparing Vince to a mental patient, but he does have a track record of irrational decisions and thoughts over the years. It's not a logical leap to suggest that once Vince is convinced of something, no matter how unlikely or far-fetched, nothing will dissuade him. Hell, WCW has been dead for 8 years and he still won't let go of his hatred of Ted Turner for daring to compete against him and thinks he only did it to put him out of business and destroy his family. What's so impossible to believe that he heard the rumors at some point and decided they were true?