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That's what threw me off, having Honky be the one inducting Koko since not only is he not in the HOF but (as far as I can recall) they never had any interaction unless they feuded in Memphis. Also, how does Honky own his gimmick? That was a WWF creation was it not?

Not so much "grouchy, hateful" but more "do you expect people to believe this shit?" from JR's blog memorializing the late Mr. Martin: Riiiiiiiight. I guess that was thrown in there because Meltzer mentioned in his story that he was given that name because it was short for testosterone.

........but the Legends of Wrestlemania game he's in just might. Not just because Koko's in it, but they can use his induction as a reason to plug the game.

The idea is for JBL to retire as champ as a babyface for the Texas crowd, beating Rey wouldn't allow that.

So let's look at the WM card so far: HHH vs Orton: I was actually stoked for this when they did the angle with Steph getting RKO'd, but since then all they've done is show HHH as a guy who gets blown up chasing someone around backstage. I don't think I can remember a match booked as a WM main event that was so full of "meh". Cena vs Edge vs Big Show: Show seems to be a transparent add on to make people forget Cena/Edge has been done a million times, but at least the angle with the Vickie love triangle was amusing. Edge usually has good performances, Cena is one of this era's best despite all the irrational smark hate, and Show's smart enough to GTFO of their way and let them do their thing. Taker vs HBK: Nothing says pro wrestling more than the fact that a match between two broken down 40-somethings is probably the most anticipated match on the card. The only thing that worries me is they are having Taker do promos as a regular dude and not a supernatural being, and seeing him stumble over his promo on RAW was the first time in a while it was noticable that he's not quite used to doing that again. Still, these are two guys who would die before putting on a bad WM performance so I'm sure they'll pull something off. Hardy vs Hardy: Matt is starting to click as a heel, and for once Jeff's emo-ness helps the storyline (YOU KILLED MAH DAWG, BAWWWWWW~!). Those two have been practicing this match for 20+ years, so it should be top notch. Jericho vs Legend: I hope they hurry up and pick Lawler for this, I really want to see a Heel Jericho vs Serious Jerry Lawler promo battle. It would be off the charts. Also Lawler is one of the few legends who can still work his style of match believably (he of the 10 minute phantom object heat spots), and Jericho's certainly capable of picking up the slack on the in-ring side if need be. Money in the Bank: Maybe I'm paranoid, but it sure seems that they're sticking Christian in this match so they can use it as justification for their irrational hate-boner they have about him if/when he isn't able to carry the whole match singlehandedly. Diva Battle: This is pretty much the Trish Spot and for morbid curiosity to see who they dug up from the past and how they aged. I just hope they don't bring Mae in since she almost died in the ring the last time. Unoffical: Miz/Morrison vs Colons: I don't know if this is going to be step one of ending the brand split, but it seems they're going to unify the tag titles at some point so why not at WM? JBL vs Kozlov. JBL's SHOCK THE WORLD bit is apparently going to be retiring at WM as IC champ. Since it's in his home state it makes sense, but Kozlov is just beyond terrible and they're matching him with a guy who's in such bad shape he's wrestling on TV with bigger breasts than most of the Divas.

The thing about Vince is this is the guy who wanted to do an angle where he was the father of his own grandchild. How offended can a guy be over someone fucking your daughter if he wanted to fuck her too?

Because WCW was the only one to ever beat them at their own game, even if it was only for a brief period of time. Also Vince's obsession with Billionaire Ted. Also also WCW has never been discussed in any sort of positive light by anyone on WWE programming except for when Bischoff was on the Monday Night Wars show on 24/7 and he was obviously put there to be everyone's pinata.

I have to wonder why even bother with a rise and fall type DVD on WCW. It's not like it was a small promotion that only part of the country got to witness at its peak, and as stated before it's not likely to contain anything not already discussed ad nauseum on previous releases where they run through the standard WCW Talking Points. I guess it would make good drinking game fodder, take a shot each time a former WCW employee now working for WWE makes a cheap shot comment, etc.

Luger's actually walking again, not that it disproves your point, I just wanted to throw that out there. It's pretty funny, the whole Bruno/Vince deal as it's the opposite of the usual thing of someone being removed from history over some petty bullshit. Bruno gets mentioned favorably all the time and it seems fairly obvious that Vince has respect for him and wants to patch things up. It's weird seeing the ex employee in the position of holding a weird grudge, but there it is. Also I'd wager if Bruno outlives Vince (and given their lifestyles it seems more likely than you'd think) he'd probably at least agree to go into the WWE HOF.

Seriously, if she works with WWE again there's probably no one else with an excuse not to.

Medusa's exit was the famous "women's belt in the trash can" deal, so I'd assume she's on Vince's shit list since that created the paranoia that lead to Montreal happening.

The economy is making Vince realize that sometimes cutting your nose off to spite your face isn't the best plan of action w/r/t making money. Like, if things stay crappy until 2010 like a lot of people think, I fully expect Randy Savage to be in the next HOF class (he's pretty much the only big name from the 80s left that isn't in).

Which makes me wonder, is this battle royal going to be Sunny, Trish, and like a bunch of Moolah's girls who were jobbers in the 80s?

So, this Women's Battle Royal they are supposedly doing at WM where they bring back all the past women wrestlers/divas they can find, it caused two thoughts to cross my mind: 1. You think they reached out to Sable? 2. What are the odds that Tammy Sytch agrees to do it, and ends up using the money to fuck some guy wearing fireman boots and sleeping until nighttime the next day?

I wasn't even thinking of the racial overtones, it was more like "please don't tell me a Roddy Piper promo is the first time he's heard the story of St. Patrick driving the snakes out of Ireland". Then again, I'm Irish so maybe that isn't as widespread a story as I think it is since I heard it a lot growing up.

To quote Booker T, tell me he didn't just say that.

Since it's going to be Taker/HBK at WM, there's a good opportunity for referencing history and to plug WWE 24/7: right now on the Monday Night War shows, they are at the point where they're hyping the Casket Match that caused Shawn's back injury.

....and the moment he realized the angle was going to be to the benefit of someone else he sure got the fuck out of Dodge. You have to hand it to him though, other than maybe Nash I can't think of anyone in wrestling so skilled at making sure they are always the focus of attention. Flair was always about making others look good, which was great for having ***** matches, but that doesn't matter when you're having to work the sheets to convince people you're not broke.

The difference is that Hogan would never allow himself to be one of a cast of many, regardless if WWE wanted to do it or not.

Since when do wrestlers get pensions?

Yeah, Dave's comments in the past few months about Flair's millions in retirement accounts have been talked about before. No one is quite sure where they're coming from, and most are scratching their head given so much being written in the past about Ric being headed for the poor house and needing Uncle Vinces paychecks. They don't entirely add up. John I don't get it either. Dave was also the one who mentioned Vince's personal loan to Flair being the thing keeping him afloat, not to mention that Flair's marriage ending because his wife stating "he couldn't stop being Ric Flair" which sure seemed to imply she left him. So I guess somehow despite having a reputation of spending money like water Ric somehow secretly squirreled away millions and managed to work Vince into giving him a huge personal loan? That doesn't seem right....

Speaking of Wrestlemania, Jericho is just running circles around the rest of the roster in terms of heel abilities. His segment with Snuka was just magic, since he was paired with a guy who was barely intelligible in in his prime he had to do both sides of the promo and still pulled it off. I have a feeling he's going to end up getting heat for out-heeling the main event program since WWE doesn't like it when guys don't know their roles.

1988-06-10. NJPW. Adrian Adonis & Dick Murdoch vs. Billy Gasper (Bob Orton Jr.) & Barry Gasper (Barry Orton). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhfATZcLHFs 1988-06-19. NJPW. Adrian Adonis & Dick Murdoch vs. Masa Saito & Big Van Vader http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Domfk4f9NBg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3RmTorRY5s Wow, he did lose a lot of weight. He was absolutely gigantic in the AWA, and in those matches he almost looks like his pre-Adorable self.

Yeah I was kind of lumping in the Demon with "bad Russo gimmicks" but he really does need a special mention. What killed me about that gimmick wasn't the typical WCW ass-backwardsness of making a deal then having to be forced to honor it, but was how they would constantly remind the viewers that it was just Dale Torborg: Random Dude in the Demon costume. They couldn't even let it stand as its own character. I always wondered, how much SHOOT~! was the Russo/Hogan deal? It seems like everyone was aware of the general idea but not that Russo would go as far in his promo as he did.

Everything I've read about the Apocalypse rumor is that it was something that was tossed around as an idea for like 2 seconds, and somehow (as in being repeated as fact in SKeith rants constantly) it became something that was set in stone only to be snatched away at the last second. Also, I'm watching Bash at the Beach 2000 on 24/7 and I think it's quite possibly the most WCW-ish show ever. You have Madden being annoying, bad Russo gimmicks, SHOOTING~!, highspot filled cruiserweight matches, and Tony being perplexed in ways Mike Tenay can only dream of being on Impact. And Norman Smiley. And RALPHUS. Really, you don't get more WCW than that.