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Considering MyNetworkTV just basically went tits up, it might have been the smart move putting him on the brand who's show airs on the more stable network.
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I doubt a Savage DVD ever sees the light of day, but they've never shown any reluctance to include individual matches of his on other sets. It seems as if every year someone tries to slip a Savage set past Vince, and every year they get closer to pulling it off, but he always catches it at the last minute. I have this mental image of Ricky Steamboat trying to engage Vince in conversation while the DVD guys feverishly rush to have like Shane or someone approve the set instead.
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Fans acting stupid, piss poor security who stood there like they were watching a wrestling angle, leading to bodies flying and some broad getting punched in the face. Most wrestlers, and I'd wager anyone who was trained in the Dungeon, follow the rule of anyone who lays their hands on you gets knocked the F out. You know people (especially the chick who got punched) are going to try to sue Jericho, but he was put in a bad spot and basically had to defend himself from a mob.
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"He's ambitiously stupid" - Why Scott Keith's new book is scary bad
sek69 replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
Scooter playing the "too cool for school" card in regards to current wrestling while reviewing pretty much everything on WWE 24/7 is being slept on big time. I don't know if he's the origin of the "all wrestling sucks except for the stuff I watched growing up" meme, but he's certainly one of the biggest perpetrators of it. -
Not only was Lex pushed as someone the fans would think is the next world champion but never won the big one, when they finally did put the belt on him it was at Bash 1991 which was guaranteed to turn any remaining fans against him. I often felt that was kind of a set up on Lex, they had to know the crowd was going to take a giant shit on whatever they tried to do so why risk killing a guy who still had a chance to be a top player? It truly was a no-win battle, but only WCW could find a way to make it even worse. Also it's hilarious that history is starting to look at Flair's booking a little more honestly. It wasn't that long ago that mentioning him as anything other than the valiant White Knight fighting a heroic (yet ultimately losing) battle against the scourge of Dusty would get you a savage tongue lashing on the interwebs.
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This guy manages to kill 2 birds with one stone by not only being an awful WO.com columnist but also being an awful SKeith wannabe.
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If for some reason Jeff Hardy left WWE today, you can damn well guarantee ROH would ask him to make an appearance at least. Also, it's hilarious that ROH fans are now turning on Adam Pearce's booking because he wanted to tone down all the ridiculousness that ROH tends to get made fun of over.
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I wonder what kind of reaction Jeff Hardy would get if he showed up at a ROH show today.
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Conversely, it could be said that the movie could be seen as an extreme version of a washed up 80s wrestler because not too many 80s wrestlers got the chance to live long enough to end up like Randy.
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None of what you list could be determed a "mistake" though. I know as far as "How would a fading 80s relic get booked in all the Northeastern smark federations" goes, the scenes with Randy doing hardcore matches reminded me a lot of Terry Funk in ECW. Also Randy's big historical match was told as being in 1989 and there's a lot of guys from that time period puttering around on the indies now. What strikes me the most is that of all the wrestlers who've posted their reviews on the internet so far, the only thing most of them take issue with is the open drug dealing, which seemed to be more of the director showing the audience that drug use is common rather than something intended to be an accurate portrayal of the wrestling drug scene.
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That's who it was widely reported to be at the time, so I guess she pretty much confirmed it.
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"He's ambitiously stupid" - Why Scott Keith's new book is scary bad
sek69 replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
His review of the 9/12/87 Boston house show has some classic SKeith misinformation, as he states the Hercules-Davey Boy match was due to Dynamite Kid no-showing for reasons unknown and robbed the world of a Harts-Bulldogs match since they ended up defending the tag belts against the unlikely duo of Sika and Mr. Fuji. Of course none of that is remotely true, since Dynamite was dealing with the back injury at that time and a five minute search on Graham Cawthon's site informs you that Mr. Fuji was subbing for Kamala that night. What's especially sloppy about that is A. Scooter's a fan of all things Hart and or Stampede related so surely he knew why Dynamite wasn't there and B. He's pimped Graham's site before so he's clearly aware of it's existence and how simple it would have been to find out who Fuji was subbing for (as I did when I was watching and wondered who was supposed to be in that match). -
Not disagreeing with you in theory, but there was a pretty big gap between realizing that WCW was going to be run by a bunch of Turner corporate fuckups and WWF/E turning into something more in line with the style Dave likes. I'd wager he wasn't a real fan of their PRODUCT~! until around 2000-2001 since he certainly wasn't a fan of the early 90s cartoon era or of anything Russo is, was, or ever would be involved in.
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Half of the "Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic" winners were just stupid booking ideas and not disgusting by any definition. The only reason the Pacman Jones thing won last year is because Dave was OFFENDED~! at all of it since the guy paralyzed in the shooting was a former job guy and therefore TNA was disrespecting THA BIZ by hiring him. After reading the WON for the last 2 years it seems that Dave makes it clear what he expects to win all the awards, and for the most part they do. I guess it comes from being around wrestling for so long, but it's funny to see Dave doing a little "audience education" of his own. I've still never come up with a decent explanation of his Backlund hate boner other than Dave just didn't like his style of wrestling (ironically he would love someone doing the All-American shooter gimmick now) and also the impression I get that he really thinks Backlund is shoot retarded. Also having Hogan as Most Overrated in 85 and 86 really show the anti WWF bias he and other smart fans had until sometime in the late 80s early 90s. I guess it was around the time Turner bought out JCP that it was time to admit their beloved NWA wasn't going to win the war and it was time to accept the WWF style. The WONs Loss posts seem to bear that out, as you can tell Meltzer barely hiding his disgust as he details the bungling going on behind the scenes.
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Not really. I mean, Mick can be nailing every porn star he comes across and it wouldn't make the top 100 scummiest things ever done by a wrestler, it's just that some people tend to get bent out of shape over things like that more than others is all. I totally expected SLL or someone to be cutting and pasting something from DVDVR where people were angry about it or something.
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I'm surprised there hasn't been more outrage on the interwebs over Foley constantly mentioning how he's best pals with a porn star despite his constant shilling of kids's books and other family friendly ventures.
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So in the Shorties section they have a Savage/Sherri (w/ Brother Love) vs Dusty/Sapphire (w/Elizabeth) match up now as part of the Royalty theme. Who would have thought that by 2009 all the women would be dead, Savage would be walking around looking like a leather daddy version of Santa, Bruce Pritchard would be fired, and Dusty would be employed by WWE as part of the creative team?
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I wonder how many wrestling fans watched that movie and felt uncomfortable with the reality that the guys they cheer for will probably end up like that some day. I don't want to start another "club the heartless wrestling fan" debate, but it does seem like there's a large amount of cognitive dissonance involved in watching it. Most people (who are being honest with themselves) realize they are watching mostly horrible people in a tremendously scummy business, and that's ok as long as the matches are entertaining. There's always a subtext of "I don't care about you as a human being, entertain me you meat puppets" when it comes to being a fan I guess. Watching the movie kind of made me remember what it was like to be a big Jake Roberts fan growing up and then finding out later about his horribly screwed up upbringing that led to his substance abuse issues and estrangement from his family.
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What are you expecting/hoping for in wrestling in 2008?
sek69 replied to S.L.L.'s topic in Pro Wrestling
The non-NBC national games are on Versus, which is on the sports tier of most cable companies, but most local market games are on the regional Fox Sports affiliates which are on the standard lineup for most providers. Also, this could be a good time for WWE to launch a channel as long as they don't ask for a ridiculous carriage fee from providers. Cable and satellite companies are getting tired of being held hostage by the large conglomerates that own most local stations, so WWE offering a proven commodity for a fair rate would probably get some attention. -
I guess it belongs here since it's a result of them trying to close a loophole in the Wellness program, but Meltzer has mentioned almost in passing a couple of times now how WWE is cracking down on pot use. Before, it was seen as harmless pain management and guys were just paying the small fine. Now with Congress asking more questions they don't want to be seen as allowing any drug usage. Of course with weed taken away, I'd wager most guys will just end up drinking more and/or getting mark doctors to give them legal pain pills.
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Depending on the blood alcohol level of the parties involved, the women's match could have been fun.
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Despite the evidence that would indicate the former, I'd be willing to be it's the latter. I have no doubt based on Vince's beliefs that it it was instilled in her early on that steroids is a Thing We Do Not Discuss.
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Obviously not every 80s wrestler ended up like Randy the Ram, but when you have the biggest star of that era (possibly ever) working small indy shows it kind of illustrates what happens to guys after the business is done with them. Think about the guys who were superstars in the WWF in the 80s, which is what Randy is clearly based on. How many of them went on to live lives either the same or not much better than his? The only ones who don't end up like him are mostly the guys who end up taking an office job with the company. When you consider it's a career that doesn't offer any type of medical or pension coverage, and it all but guarantees a lifetime of pain and medical costs, the Ram's fate would be pretty hard to avoid.
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They used that as the intro bumper to one of the shows on WWE 24/7. Ironically I think that's still the best bump Nash ever took.
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Actually it came off as someone (Waxman maybe?) read a bunch of Observers in preparation but didn't really know what any of it meant.