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The 80s WWF seemed to have something for everyone: there was usually an entertaining opener, maybe even featuring one of their famous jobbers like Pete Doherty or Iron Mike Sharpe (who had more personality than most of the OVW callups of late), an entertaining mid card match featuring someone like Tito Santana, and depending on which tour came to your town either a Hogan match to send the kids home happy or an IC match that usually featured the best workers in the company.

When guys had a bad gimmick in the 80s they usually had a manager to help them talk. Even the Red Rooster had Bobby Heenan for chrissakes.

The way WWE currently is booked sets the young talent up to fail. If they aren't given a dead-end gimmick they're expected to cut promos and very few people have the charisma to not look like a doofus the first time they are handed a live mic on TV.

Captain Redneck a bigot? What's the world coming to?

The mid 90s might have been the best top-to-bottom wrestling era in WWFE history. You were most likely going to have at least a decent match from the opener to the main event. It also happened to be one of the worst drawing periods in WWFE history which is what must have cemented it in Vince's mind that the fans want Sportz Entertainment instead of wrestling.

It's seriously subscribe to the L4W newsletter too. If chuckleheads like Alvarez can have one, why not someone who knows what the fuck he's talking about?

Well I know Steamboat was busy breaking up fights on the road, so I think his hands were full when they were filming.

I hate how HHH acts like he's the BIGGEST FAN EVAR~! of whoever the subject of the DVD is. As far as hearing from people who knew Superstar while he was active, I don't know who else they could have gotten. Bruno certainly wouldn't have taken part, and from reading his website lately I think Bob Backlund is living his 1994 heel gimmick still. That's probably why it seems Dusty had the most to say, since I don't think anyone else from the 70s WWWF gives Vince Jr. the time day.

I'm fairly certain that his 1987 comeback was supposed to be a full time (or at least part time) return to wrestling but his body couldn't handle it and he ended up a manager. I'm convinced that Vince must be a legit mark for Graham, since we all know how he holds grudges and the whole steroid hooha in the 90s was pretty much started by Superstar's admission of roid use causing his health problems and how easy he obtained said roids in the WWF.

I know JR was booking at some point, at least by 1989.

Well for Bret and especially the Road Warriors, JR did call a lot of their big matches. I don't know why he'd be speaking about the Superstar other than the fact that JR probably doesn't have a whole hell of a lot else do to these days.

The HIAC spot was a work that built off his previous cameraman hissy fits, same with the match with Sid where the camera ended up getting used as a weapon. WM 11 seemed like a shoot to me, HBK snatched the one dude from behind by his collar and fucking flung him like a sack of potatoes. The second incident involved a cameraman getting in the way of a ringpost spot and HBK forcibly moved him out of the way. You can see Sid (who was in his corner) trying to calm Shawn the fuck down afterwards since even he could see what was going on.

Watching Wrestlemanias 9-11 made me realize how good Yokozuna was for someone so enormously huge. It's ridiculous seeing a five or six hundred pounder hitting savate kicks and legdrops, not to mention bumping like he did. Most superheavyweights bump like an old building slowly teetering to the ground, but Yoko was bumping like a cruiser in his match with Owen vs the Gunns at WM 11. To top it off, he got some huge air on the Bonzai drop as well. Work or not, I'd shit my pants seeing an ass that big careening towards me.

Joe, thats about all I can think of.

Watching WM 11 reminded me what an unprofessional shit mid 90s HBK was. Granted, there were too many photographers at ringside but he tossed one guy a good 5-10 feet for the sin of being in the way of his bump outside the ring as if the dude had any way of knowing what the spots were. It's amazing, considering the petty ass shit people have been fired from the WWF/E for before and since, to see just what the Clique was able to get away with.

They can't guarantee enough of a crowd to cover what MSG charges to run in the building.

Yeah, people usually don't understand why UPN would even consider not renewing SmackDown, but I don't really think they make that much money off it and would probably make the same if not more with a block of shows they produce. Not to mention anyone who works with Vince McMahon usually gets tired of it eventually.

It's looking more unlikely that UPN is going to renew SD, and they seemed to plant the seed on RAW for a title unification match at some point. Not to mention NBC/USA doesn't want any SD wrestlers on the Saturday Night's Main Event telecasts as long as it's on a rival network. So what's in store for SmackDown? Instead of talking about ending the brand split, there might not be a second brand at all. I can't imagine USA devoting another nigh to wrestling, where would SD go if not on UPN?

Not to mention Warrior can easily prove some of the things he was buried over are common wrestling practices since there was a houseshow recently where half the people no showed and none of the advertised matches took place.

Still, he can make the claim that he lost bookings for speeches because of him being portrayed as an unprofessional lunatic on the DVD.

I didn't know he was still doing the comic thing. I guess he can make that case then.

I hate to ever agree with Warrior about anything, but everyone knows that Vince put that DVD out just to bury him. There's two problems with the lawsuit however: 1. It'll be impossible to prove intent, since Vince will just claim it was a work and everyone else who took part in the DVD will circle the kayfabe wagon around him. 2. Warrior isn't in the wrestling business anymore so it's going to be hard to claim the DVD damaged his future earning potential.

I don't think I've seen a non WWE match on this list except for Joe-Kobashi.

My travels to DVDVR lately have really made me appricate this place even more. I almost forgot what it was like going to a wrestling board where the majority of people in the wrestling folder have no idea there was wrestling before the WWF in the mid 80s and mods close threads because they randomly decide that there will be no more topics on a certain subject. Not to mention the nonsensical word filters. Christ, that gets annoying.