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Sheesh.

I'd say probably in '91 or so, because he sucked

I know you're addressing John here Loss, but hopefully you don't mind if I throw in my two cents. (1) Luger used to be a somewhat motivated worker, a fresh powerhouse in WCW who had a career without a glass ceiling ahead of him. However, he did what many do, stopped caring. His overall skills plummeted, and he IIRC, started refusing to do jobs for people, and even no sold continiously. Luger certainly had the potential to be a mega-superstar, but his laziness stopped it dead in it's tracks. (2) I'd say Sting. He was charismatic, a company yes man, sold merchandise like crazy, and could go.

Jesus christ. They must really love their job.

Guess he's never seen the well known classics of the '90s. Like I said in the WWF thread, the '90s has the overwhelming quality, whereas now only has the quanity. At least, it's like that in the WWF.

It's not much: Jack Veneno

1990's Hart vs. Smith SS 92 Hart vs. Michaels SurSer 92 Hart vs. Hennig KotR 93 Michaels vs. Jannetty Raw 93 Hart vs. Hart WM10 Michaels vs. Ramon WM10 Given 5* Hart vs. Hart SS 94 Given 5* Kliq tag match from 94 Hart vs. Diesel RR 95 Michaels vs. Jarrett 7/95 Michaels vs. Ramon II SS95 Hart vs. Smith 12/95 O. Hart vs. Michaels Raw 2/96 Hart vs. Michaels WM12 Michaels vs. Diesel NHB 4/96 Michaels vs. Smith 6/96 Michaels vs. Mankind Mind Games Hart vs. Austin SurSer96 Four Way WWF title match 2/97 O. Hart vs. Smith Euro title finals Hart vs. Austin WM13 Given 5* Michaels/Austin vs. Smith/O. Hart Raw 5/97 10 man tag 7/97 Michaels vs. Taker HiaC Given 5* Love vs. Austin 5/98 Taker vs. Mankind HiaC HHH vs. Rock SS98 Rock vs. Austin WM15 Hardys vs. E&C Ladder 99 Should have been given 5* 2000's HHH vs. Jack RR00 Ten man tag Raw 2/00 HHH vs. Jack HiaC Triple Ladder WM00 HHH vs. Jericho LMS TLC I SS00 HHH vs. Benoit 10/00 Angle vs. Rock 10/00 6 man HiaC Benoit vs. Jericho Ladder RR01 Should have been given 5* HHH vs. Austin 2/3 falls Rock vs. Angle 2/01 Angle vs. Benoit WM17 TLC II Rock vs. Austin WM17 Austin/HHH vs. Jericho/Benoit 5/01 TLC III Benoit vs. Austin 5/01 Benoit vs. Angle 6/01 Cage Angle vs. Austin SS01 Jericho vs. Rock 10/01 Austin/Angle vs. Jericho/Rock 11/01 10 man tag 11/01 Jericho vs. Rock RR02 Angle vs. Edge 4/02 Angle vs. Edge Hair vs. Hair RVD vs. Eddie Ladder Angle vs. Edge Cage Rock vs. Taker vs. Angle Edge vs. Jericho Cage Michaels vs. HHH SS02 Benoit vs. Angle 9/02 Edge vs. Eddie No DQ Edge vs. Angle 10/02 TLC IV Angle/Benoit vs. Jr/Edge Should have been given 5* Eddie vs. Jr 11/02 Elimination Chamber I Four way elimination 12/02 Angle vs. Benoit RR03 Should have been given 5* Angle vs. Benoit 2/03 Michaels vs. Jericho WM19 Lesnar vs. Angle WM19 Angle vs. Lesnar SS03 RVD vs. Christian Ladder Angle vs. Cena 10/03 10 man tag SurSer03 Michaels' team vs. Bischoff's Lesnar vs. Benoit 12/03 Michaels vs. HHH 12/03 RR04 Benoit vs. Michaels 2/04 Three way WM20 8 man tag 4/04 Orton vs. Foley 4/04 FCA Three way 4/04 Michaels vs. Benoit 5/04 Eddie vs. JBL 5/04 6 man tag 8/04 Elimination Chamber 1/05 MitB I Michaels vs. Angle WM21 Angle vs. Eddie 4/05 Michaels vs. Benjamin 5/05 Tanaka vs. Awesome ONS05 Michaels vs. Angle 6/05 HHH vs. Batista HiaC Benoit vs. Regal 7/05 M. Hardy vs. Edge Cage Angle vs. Taker 2/06 Jr. vs. Angle 6/06 Benoit vs. Finlay 11/06 Four way tag Ladder 12/06 Cena vs. Umaga LMS RR07 MitB III Cena vs. Michaels Raw 4/07 Four way 4/07 Hardy Boyz vs. WGTT Ladder Whew. That's all I could find/remember. The '90s has better quality, where the '00s has quanity.

Pssh. They're not drugs..... I used weight gainer and creatine. I liked the weight gainer powder, made one hell of a shake.

Made a seperate topic for this discussion.

Impressive. Thanks. I'll admit, I did use some performance ehancing "drugs" while in high school, and in the Corps. All was 100% legal.

If this is the path we decide to go, we should break it up by organizations. AJPW NJPW NOAH AAA CMLL WWF ROH TNA Various Indies, etc.

- Paul E. Anderson It's not exactly reliable, but if it's legit, it clearly puts Henry behind Anderson in overall strength.