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Damn, I hadn't even thought about that. I guess it'd make more sense for Christian to hold it now than Sting. Sting is going to be over regardless and has had the world title before. Christian is over but he still needs to reach that next level. I don't know if it'll work but they might as well try.

So, Jillian is brought into WWE with the horrible mole gimmick and now that the Boogeyman has bit it off, she's on the outs? She can't be a character without the mole?

I don't know how to feel about NWA World Champion Christian. Obviously it'd be a step-up from Jeff Jarrett, so I guess that's all that matters. Can't deny that Christian is over and a money promo man either I guess.

Thoughts on that? That's a completely different viewpoint from what I've heard.

There's not a whole lot to say about the Raven interview. He was brutally honest but he also comes off as if he thinks he's some fantastic worker and he's really not. He never has been. He has good psychology. He knows how to put a match together. It's just all the stuff in-between that doesn't stand out. Raven has never did a lot of things in the ring that make you eww and ahh he just does the basics well. He talks about dragging people like Gordy and Goldberg to really good matches...but those two examples certainly don't stand out to me. His match with Bam Bam Gordy was just a garbage brawl and his match with Goldberg had a ref bump and repeated interference from Kanyon. I like Raven. He's one of my favorite wrestlers of all-time. Probably third on my all-time list behind Hayes and Nikita. I liked him more for his character and promos than his wrestling though. Same with Hayes and Nikita. It doesn't matter how good a match turns out if you don't care about wanting to see it. Raven always did shit that made you want to watch his matches. The interview was dated a little bit too. It was back before Raven did Hardcore Homecoming. I liked what he said about the X-Division because it's true. AJ Styles stands out because he has a clean look and doesn't scream "jobber" when he walks out. People like Alex Shelley and Sonjay Dutt can't say the same. I wanna see Raven work Samoa Joe in TNA. Especially after Joe squashed Riley, Raven's lackey, on iMPACT! last night. It'd give Joe a program to work that didn't involve Styles or Daniels and it'd give Raven something to do after his Zybysko trash is over with.

Yeah but she was one of the first to flaunt the huge fake tits. Sunny was around but she wasn't super-exposed like Sable was. Remember the body paint hand prints? Elizabeth and Missy Hyatt were around in the older days but they were pretty conservative. Sunny was around but covered up for the most part (at least on-screen). Sable didn't leave a whole lot to the imagination plus she had the occasional matches where he's pull out a Bomb or TKO.

I can think of two reasons....

Dawn Marie also had experience since she worked in ECW. Heyman, Buh-Buh Ray, Lance Storm, etc. were in WWE at the time, so it made sense to me.

It's also the mindset of why the majority of wrestlers hate "smart marks." Y'all have fun.

Whatever, I thought it was great. I don't give a fuck about ratings and goddamn buyrates, it entertained me. As a fan, I can't ask for more than that.

I liked it because the PPV didn't predictably end with Cena "overcoming the odds" and retaining. It was something different and now I don't know what direction WWE is heading in towards Wrestlemania. To me, that's a good thing. I want to be surprised. I didn't want to know that it'd be Cena Vs. HHH for the title. Hell, halfway through the match I was BEGGING for Carlito to win. Anyone but Cena.

...and won. Edge is the champion.

Well, Cena won...but Edge came out and is cashing in his money in the bank contract right now.

Heh, I thought the best match on paper was Trish Stratus Vs. Mickie James. Also, Angle was the first man eliminated.

Well, I don't know how much Batista's age has to do with anything. If wrestlings past is any indication, Big Dave could be 'round for another couple decades. I've never been real high on the Van Dam horse, so I don't get a lot of the resentment there. I didn't think Van Dam had enough tools he was just insanely over. Sometimes, that's enough, sometimes it's not. I dunno. Booker though? I did think he should've won. I didn't think Jericho should've won the tournament with Angle, Rock & Austin...but he did. So, HHH shouldn't have buried him either.

A lot of people would add Booker T. to that list as well. HHH did put over Batista though.

Triple H just came back from taking a break. It doesn't matter what he does, people will always shit on him. Would that be an improvement?

The appropriate reaction certainly isn't for this to be newsworthy at thirty different sites. Jesus, I've never seen such a commotion over a pregnancy before. They've been a couple for awhile, a baby was the next logical step. People act like they were baffled to hear the news or something. Not saying that's the case here but people really blow the littlest things out of proportion.

Yes, I actually care because I'm a mark for the Elimination Chamber gimmick and I'm holding out hope that we might get a new champion. Not because I don't think Cena is a good champion, he does at least get reactions, just because I'm a greedy fan and personally I want a new champ. This is also a reminder thread because a lot of people seem to forget about PPV's these days. Also, thread title: "idiot" You'll note that Helms/Lawler doesn't have a picture. That pretty much shows what WWE thinks of that match. Of course, it was just a throw together match at the last second and there's probably zero interest in that match. It's not like the pictures are real flattering for ANYONE anyway. Jeez. A lot of people are liking the Trish/Mickie storyline including the guys from the LAW. On the last episode of LAW they actually said it was the match that they were most looking forward to on the PPV. This thread is for predictions and talk about the Pay-Per-View. Here's a quick copy/paste of the line-up for prediction purposes: Elimination Chamber HHH/Show Edge/Flair Trish/Mickie Bra & Panties Helms/Lawler I wouldn't be surprised if another match was randomly thrown onto the PPV as well. Maybe something with Shelton & his mama or possibly Trevor Murdoch.

When I think of "smarks" I think of "smart marks." Smart marks to me are, basically, "kayfabe free." So, I agree with MisawaGQ, that's a pretty good definition. Marks don't know what kayfabe is. They don't care that backstage UT called someone a "boy" and made him go get him some lemonade.

"Elitest."

It's a stereotype. If you know Hulk Hogan or Triple H's real name, for example, you're a smark. You might not be some super negative know-it-all but that doesn't mean you won't be classified with them just for having internet access and liking wrestling.

With all the differing opinions on-line and all the people that are never happy, destined to "go against the grain" and whatnot, there's always going to be some sort of backlash. People complain that Cena doesn't get pushed. People complain that Cena doesn't lose. People complain that he's not the champion. People complain that he is the champion. People complain that WWE doesn't do long title reigns anymore. People complain that the title reigns are too long. His gimmick sucks, he needs to turn heel, no his gimmick needs to be more hardcore, he needs to stay face, he sells merchandise, he's a wigger, only women and children cheer for him, he's stale, he can't wrestle, his finisher sucks, etc. It's just a sea of ungrateful bastards. There's a reason that "smarks" are "looked down upon." Welcome to the internet.

I remember reading about Roddy Piper having to wrestle a bear in his book. Someone put honey on his trunks or something so the bear was licking his ass.

I'm suggesting that only a smark would point out something like that. Somehow, someway, it's a burial of Chris Benoit. That's ridiculous.