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That's sounds fun as hell. Unfortunately none of my friends like wrestling and the only other wrestling fans I've met in Tampa have either been casual fans or way too excuse me for this but I guess way too nerdy for me at least maybe I'm a Dick

Wow masters or mcintyre over Bret? As good and underrated as they are that just seems hard for me to believe. To each his own I guess and Im a Bret guy so naturally I'm perplexed by comments of that nature

I couldn't agree with you more. Bret was my guy as a kid and still is now. Almost to the point where I could almost turn a blind eye to all the negatives and disregard them completely. I feel as if he made me a loyal fan and I have to defend him which is perfectly fine I might add. Sometimes you're favorite is just you're top guy even if he does stuff you don't like in wrestling. It's a lot like my hardcore fandom with Chicago sports teams. The cubs have sucked for a century and ill defend them to the death just like I would jay cutler and have Rex grossman.

Big Daddy V killing a jobber has to be on there

To me he definitely came off that way in the WM 13 match. From the opening bell when austin charges him you get that feeling of oh shit Austin is a straight up ass kicker and how is Bret going to defend himself. I would've loved to have seen 93 Bret vs 93 Vader to see him display it on a high level for a period of matches. Vader couldve given him a really good ass whooping and made Bret extremely sympathetic. The Piper match is another one that comes off as Bret having to fight for survival. Not to an extreme extent or anything and maybe i'm so pro Bret that i'm nit picking but Piper has Bret beat pretty good and it takes a desperation spot to win so that could be an example. Havent seen the 95 IYH Bulldog match in a long time so not sure how that comes off but i remember him being pretty bloody and getting the shit kicked out of him for a while.

Yea my top ten would be about half Bret matches as well. The two Austin matches are my all time favorites and they are completely different. He adapted very well to almost any style and has good to great matches with a laundry list of guys. Not a lot of people can say that. The Hart Foundation in 97 is my favorite group of all time and him playing smarmy heel in the US and beloved son in Canada is the best heel/face parrallel i've ever seen.

I agree with this 100%. The stretch from late 96 to late 97 is probably my favorite era in wrestling.

That's what I was thinkin but if u read the responses u can see what they mean. I ay least hope someone wouldn't try and compare the two

Yea you're wrong lol. I just meant ecw became a big deal from pretty much nothing and helped influence WWE for the attitude era. Of course Austin and rock were stars anyways but the product itself I tend to believe was angrier and took some concepts from ecw.

So are you talking quality or drawing wise? Honest question. I know little about lucha so I can't comment on north America buy I can see where you're coming from if you're using drawing numbers as your argument. I may have taken the question the wrong way but to me its apples and oranges. I also think a lot of the negative stigma was the ecw name being attached to it in the first place. You kind of dig a hole from the beginning calling it that.

And I never said ecw was the reason for it I said it was an influence. You can kill that notion

U mean to tell me Ecw was never a top three promotion in the us? WWE wcw then ecw. In 98 for example who would've been third I'm curious to hear this one. And WWE clearly got influences of the attitude era from ecw which got influence from Memphis and so on. Let's not be rediculous to prove a point.

Hyperbole is saying a c show was better than a top promotion of its era. And I was referring to ecw being an influence to the attitude era which it clearly was. Austin was a huge star ready to burst but the ecw influence made WWE become edgier and Austin stood out being one of the first to have the " attitude". In saying that I lined wwecw myself since it was a wrestling heavy show and featured funlay a lot who I love but I just can't see it being better than the original

Yea i agree. To say a show was better than a promotion that revolutionized wrestling and helped turn WWE into the most profitable wrestling promotion in the US is a little far fetched. ECW had a lot of faults but it was also very ground breaking. To reach national exposure from where they started says a whole lot as to how popular ECW became. WWECW had good wrestling on it from time to time but also had very shitty wrestling. A better comparison would be WCW Worldwide to WWECW or something of that nature. I remember a lot of people shitting on WWECW at the time and now everyone loves it, gotta love the internet.

wow im stupid i've seen it a thousand times, thanks

How do u access the blog function? I do yearly watchings of promotions and am starting 99 wcw, wwf, and ecw soon and could chronicle it

There arent too many guys i actively dislike. For the longest i hated Hogan and never even liked him as a kid. Add all the political bullshit and it made me hate him even more. As i got older i can appreciate what he does as a draw and charisma wise but i guess if i had to name a guy i disliked it would be him. Goldberg and Luger kind of fell in the same vein to me for the most part but even they have redeeming qualitites. Oh and Buff Bagwell, fuck him.

I'll go with another ECW guy and say Steve Corino. He always came off as versatile to me and i would've loved to see him as the ace of the company for a few more years. He was very good at drawing heat and his Mr Old School gimmick is fuckign awesome.

I never loved or hated Brody. I think the thing i liked about him was his presence and what i disliked was all the stupid no selling shit. If he wasnt only concerned about himself and gave a little to at least the top guys i think he couldve been a lot better and well thought of. If he would of used the template that Vader went by in that he'll give you offense and make you look good but he'll always prove to be meaner and stronger i think he would've been great.

I can agree with your second statement but still dont agree that a technical wrestler must have an assortment of moves. So would Kanyon be considered a technical wrestler? That's more of an offensive wrestler to me. But to each his own i was just using Shawn as a reference not that i think he's a world beater myself and i was honestly just thinking of guys that could wrestle and had strikes as a finish.

Shawn was as technical as Dibiase ever was in my book. Not saying he was the greatest. And since when did having a wide range of moves make you a technical wrestler? You gonna tell me Teddy Hart is a technical wrestler because his moveset isnt limited?