NintendoLogic

How about Rude/Chono from Halloween Havoc? At the very least, it has to be in the running for worst match relative to established level of performance. Sid or Zeus being in a terrible match is hardly noteworthy. But Rude and Chono were both more than capable of having good matches. Hell, they were capable of having good matches with each other. Then Havoc happened. The torturous length is the icing on the cake.

Figured this would be a fun topic to discuss. To make things interesting, I'm excluding matches that were ruined by overbooking or a ridiculous gimmick. I'm also excluding matches involving celebrities and the like. I'm looking for matches where trained and experienced wrestlers completely stink out the joint and have no one to blame but themselves.

The biggest disappointment to me was Loss being unable or unwilling to understand what "playing the bitch" refers to even after it was explained repeatedly in great detail.

Almost everyone also had Bryan pegged for winning the title at HIAC. Also, let's not go overboard in explaining Kane's involvement. So he joined the Authority because he knew that Luke Harper would get pinned in Bryan's first match with the Wyatts and that Bray would want to tag with Bryan as a result and that Harper and Rowan would run in for the DQ in that match and that Brad Maddox would call for a rematch in a cage? That's not long-term planning, that's some Batman-level shit.

Darren Young.

So what was the point of making a comparison thread?

When was the last time Bret was discussed in this thread?

Get a load of the chin on that Bullseye host. It's practically Inoki-esque.

Stop me if you've heard this one before: a warrant has been issued for Flair's arrest for unpaid support and legal fees to his most recent ex-wife. Guess there won't be any shocking swerves at the Panthers game after all.

When did rovert ever say that he personally was a fan of Devitt in any capacity?

If the 49ers don't see the double-cross coming, they're even dumber than Sting.

Either way, $60 for what they're offering is a bargain at twice the price. Hell, Wrestlemania alone costs more than that.

I think voting is premature until we see how it plays out on Raw. But the fact that Bryan has apparently been passively letting Bray kick his ass on house shows isn't a terribly encouraging sign.

If you wanted to stand out on this board, you'd praise the show to the moon.

Maybe he told them to run plays that lose yardage every time they try them to pop the Green Bay crowd.

The interesting thing to me is the revelation that Taker has taken to planning out and rehearsing his matches. Wasn't he one of the guys who trashed DDP for not knowing how to work because he liked to script his matches?

I never said that Bryan wasn't over. Just not as over as he was a few months ago.

It appears to me that the reactions he gets these days aren't nearly as enthusiastic as the ones he was getting before and immediately after Summerslam. He still gets the Yes chants, but that's more of a Pavlovian reaction at this point.

I don't know that this is the case. Bryan's pretty clearly less over after months of being laid out and screwed over than he was immediately after Summerslam.

How is Bryan raging against the machine by joining the Wyatts? I thought it was implied that it was the Authority who sicced the Wyatts on him in the first place.

I like Punk a lot, but I don't really think he was all that good until he got to WWE. He's certainly improved a lot from the days when he was doing rolling elbows and falcon arrows as mid-match transition moves. Even now, he'll occasionally give in to his worst indy-ish instincts, like in the Jericho match at Payback. With that said, his hits far outweigh his misses. The match with Lesnar is my MOTY by a comfortable margin, and the Rock matches were Cena/Khali-level miracle carry jobs. Also, I have no problem with him being a dick to his fans. Wrestling fans, particularly smarky ones, are the scum of the earth. As far as I'm concerned, he doesn't heap enough abuse on them.

The vertical suplex has always held a certain amount of mystique for me due to the Pro Wrestling game for the NES (the game called it a brainbuster because it was Japanese). It's the most powerful basic move in the game-so much so, in fact, that you couldn't even execute it unless your opponent was sufficiently worn down. I recall unleashing piledriver after piledriver until I heard the whistle signifying that my opponent was depleted, at which point it was brainbuster time. You know, I've never understood why the Northern Lights Bomb was named such. It's not a powerbomb, it's a brainbuster. That is, a brainbuster brainbuster, not a vertical suplex brainbuster. Fuck, wrestling is confusing.

I liked Regal/Cesaro a lot more than I thought I would. I think Regal's become a much smarter wrestler as he's gotten older.

He was big and ugly. I'm increasingly convinced that's all it really took for Americans to get spots in Japan in the 80s and 90s.

You mean besides the fact that all the Shield matches are basically interchangeable?