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  1. NintendoLogic
    From prowrestlinghistory.com: Wrestlemania VI: 4.5 buyrate Summerslam 1990: 3.8 buyrate Wrestlemania 13: 0.77 buyrate Summerslam 1997: 0.8 buyrate
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    I think NOAH should have just folded after the KENTA/SUWA match. There's no way they'll ever be able to top SUWA heeling on Joe Higuchi.
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    This thread breaks down the numbers in laborious detail. http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=40728
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    I don't have the Matt Farmer numbers in front of me and I'm not the biggest fan of the way those are put together but, based on those he drew really well opposite Hogan (as well as teamed with Hogan) and drew well opposite Rock. I think once HHH went in in 04/05? there has been a desire to add top opponents of top draws. HHH wasn't just the top opponent of a top draw.
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    Bumped due to a recent realization. As my first post implied, I'm not too big on the New Japan heavies. Last night, it finally hit me as to why: the match structure is to me completely counterintuitive. The initial feeling-out process takes fucking forever while the actual meat of the match feels compressed and rushed. Take the 11/1/90 Chono/Mutoh vs. Hase/Sasaki tag match. Once it gets going, it's incredibly fast-paced, with three separate Ricky Morton segments and the closing stretch in a little over 9 minutes. But in order to get there, you have to sit through nearly 8 minutes of them playing grabass on the mat. This isn't a universal rule, but I find it to be generally true.
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    See, that's the tricky thing. There's a whole host of wrestlers whose working prime came well after their physical prime, and most of them were at least pretty good before that. That's why I tried to rephrase the question and move it in a different direction.
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    Another way to look at this would be who achieved greatness the quickest. The usual suspects here are guys like Jumbo, Angle, and Akiyama. Conversely, who took the longest to "get it?" Rick Rude's already been mentioned, but how about Triple H? He debuted in 1992, and he didn't really hit his stride until 2000.
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    Nobody could have predicted that the fans wouldn't immediately take to a guy who has been booked like a chump for the past year, is constantly buried by the lead announcer, and who fluked his way to the world title. And the national championship game isn't much of an excuse. The game was a snoozefest whose ratings were down like 15% from the previous year.
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    Just about every promotion plays fast and loose with the rules when it suits them. A while back on Raw, Dolph Ziggler and Kofi Kingston had a 2/3 falls match for the US title. Kofi won 2-1, but the third fall was a DQ, so Dolph retained. But HHH won the title in his 2000 Iron Man match with The Rock despite the last fall being a DQ. I watched a Lawler/Hennig AWA match recently, and the commentators made note of Madusa being a "licensed" manager. Was the idea of needing credentials to be at ringside a prominent part of old-school wrestling or was that just an AWA thing?
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    Misawa's selling struck me as rather curious. Shortly after Kawada's arm work, he throws elbows with no apparent ill effect. Later in the match, long after Kawada had abandoned the arm, he does a rolling elbow and acts like his arm is about to fall off. This is their third-best Triple Crown match, but it's pretty far behind 6/94 and 7/95. This is notable mainly for establishing the recurring theme of Kawada throwing punches when he gets frustrated.
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    This was fine as the beginning of a rivalry, but it felt like they hadn't quite figured out how to fill out the body of a match with each other yet. The body part work felt like more of a time sink than anything else. Kawada in particular seemed kind of aimless. He started by working on Misawa's arm (his non-elbowing arm at that), then he went to the back, then he went back to the arm for a bit. I'd say this is their fourth-best Triple Crown match.
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    The thing about Hansen's matches with Misawa is that they're not really Stan Hansen matches. Hansen's matches with Kobashi and Kawada were brutal brawls. His matches with Misawa, on the other hand, tend to be more conventional wrestling matches. From that perspective, this was fine. It's not remotely close to either guy's best match. It's not even their best match with each other. But I'm kind of surprised that it wasn't even nominated for Ditch's best of the 90s project. Knowing about Misawa's shoulder going in helps quite a bit, I think.
  13. NintendoLogic
    It was rendered irrelevant by the debut of the Funkasaurus.
  14. NintendoLogic
    I think you're thinking of Dean Malenko. He fought Billy Kidman in a "catch-as-catch-can match" at Souled Out 2000. One of the ways you could win was by making your opponent's feet touch the floor, so Malenko lost when he instinctively rolled out of the ring to take a breather about two minutes in.
  15. NintendoLogic
    OK, can we stop talking about soccer now?
  16. NintendoLogic
    It doesn't look like anybody's going to get it, so here's the correct answer (or at least the one I came up with). Both were inspirations for fighting game characters. Vader was the inspiration for Raiden/Big Bear of the Fatal Fury and King of Fighters series, while Andre was the inspiration for Hugo of the Street Fighter 3 series. Hiroshi Hase or Mariko Yoshida?
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    Holy shit, I can't believe I missed that. And it still hasn't been corrected. Yes, but it's a dated one. When I hear hoofbeats, I don't think of zebras.
  18. NintendoLogic
    Well, the match was in Charlotte.
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    I was a bit confused as to why the announcer kept saying "Die Hard Kansai." But I looked it up, and that's apparently the name for her Splash Mountain off the top turnbuckle. Was the ending where Kansai tried to do a regular Splash Mountain on Kong but couldn't quite get her up so she had to go to the turnbuckle a planned spot or was it improvised? I'm in pretty much the same boat as Childs with regard to joshi in general, and I liked this match a lot. I didn't really understand why they kept going back and forth between pinfall attempts and ten-counts. I also wasn't a fan of Kansai doing a John Cena-esque "I'm completely motionless for the first nine seconds and then get a burst of energy at the last second" job. Great match otherwise.
  20. NintendoLogic
    I thought Bret was pretty clearly heeling it up. He started by refusing to observe rope breaks, and the chairshot to Diesel's leg was the coup de grace. That's my biggest problem with the match. Stuff like that is bad enough in promotions like AJW where refs generally let the wrestlers do whatever they want. But in the WWF, where weapon shots are almost always an automatic DQ, it creates a huge plot hole.
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    Anybody who said that this match doesn't hold up due to lack of MOVEZ is a blithering idiot. And in the thread that jdw quoted from, I see that Baba had a policy of giving wrestlers their first title wins in their hometowns. I guess that makes him the anti-Vince. I agree that this represents the Southern tag in its highest form. Bonus points for Fukuzawa yelling "FIYAAAAA!" after Kobashi's double clothesline and again after the moonsault. I also liked the ref's decision to raid Joe Higuchi's closet.
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    For pure emotion, I think Eddy/Brock at NWO has this beat. But I agree that this is a very good match. As far as "Vader beating up an old man" matches go, I'd say this and the Inoki match are roughly equal. Vader/Inoki is more of a great spectacle, while Vader/Flair is more of a great moment.
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    When I watched this, I was blown away by how great Hokuto's selling was. But then she magically healed after tagging out. Oh, well. It was good while it lasted.
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    It's a shame Bret drank too much of his own Excellence of Execution Kool-Aid, because this match and his work with Austin show that he could be a damn good brawler when he wanted to be. And his work in Memphis and his 1997 run showed his heel promo skills. I'm starting to think that Bret's true calling was as a brawling heel rather than a technical babyface.
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    The rare match where repeated chinlocks make things more interesting. I'd agree that this is Benoit's best match. I loved Eddy struggling to shake the cobwebs out of his head during his comeback. I wish the Splash Mountain wasn't so out of nowhere, though.
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