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  1. thebrainfollower
    Ronnie Garvin. As a kid I only knew his WWF run and one excellent match with Greg Valentine didn't take away the fact I thought he was a short, boring guy whose best promo moment (Summerslam 89) was one of the most incompetent performances ever. His rep in my days reading Scott Keith as an awful NWA champion didn't help. I turned around on him about ten years ago, starting with seeing the cage match vs. Macho Man on YT. Since then I've really come to appreciate him a lot more, though I wouldn't say he's one of my favorites.
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    Me neither. It was one of those things I learned from the internet around 1998. Say what you will about Darsow and the gimmick but he he threw himself into it with fervor.
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    Just listened. Thanks Parv for the shout out for my insanely complex and lengthy defense of Trish. The fact that basically no one talked with me convinced me I was wasting my time, and should focus on those things others want to talk about. But then I'm ignored then frequently too. It was glad that someone was at least taking note of my efforts. I do agree today women are treated better in WWE than ever before but I could see interest dying really fast if Charlotte stays on top another year. It's becoming the female version of 2002 HHH to be honest. I think especially with the interest in women's wrestling shooting up, fans have to be kept happy to be kept interested and another year of a heel who never loses the big one might nip that in the bud. As for Zeus, my memory is he wasn't played as the character from the movie exactly. Many times they referred to how Zeus would keep going after the director yelled cut and get in a few shots on Hogan. It wasn't as if the movie was real or anything like that. It was as if some guy named Zeus showed up to play Zeus. It was just odd.
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    So two friends of mine (younger, modern wrestling fans, started in the mid to late 90's) and I are starting up a podcast/viewing project. The idea each episode is to cover a territory with a live one hour "primer" viewing. My goal is to have a good to great match, a major angle and try to get as many of the big players in a territory showcased as possible. We are then going to try and compare and contrast to the modern product they watch, to see if there are any universal truths in wrestling. My first 3 episodes are 1 - Knoxville Wrestling 1979 2 - Atlantic Grand Prix Wrestling - early 80's 3 - San Francisco 1978 Now the relative lack of footage of those eras/territories made putting together an hour primer pretty easy. But with stuff like the AWA, Florida, Mid South, Memphis etc it's a lot more challenging. I have a ton of wrestling footage myself, but if stuff is online that helps too of course. I'm trying to pick the 4th territory and then of course decide on a primer for it. I'd like some suggestions. For now we are sticking with US and Canadian promotions no later than 1989. Thanks in advance.
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    This wasn't something I knew about until recently (Vince's role in the cover up). But to an earlier point Vince McMahon has no decency. It's as simple as that. Neither does WWE. Never has and never will. At some point we choose to keep watching what is one of the scummiest, sleaziest, businesses around. Wrestling is still run by people who have an outspoken fundamental contempt and hatred for their own audience and come out and say it any chance they get. It is run by people who encourage and all but force a lifestyle that has killed how many people? Imagine if 40% of the 1985 MLB roster were dead, we'd have an investigation of epic proportions. But because wrestling has been and always will be a little sideshow carnival at best its allowed to get away with being what is is. Yet we still watch. Why? I'm not really sure and things like this make me question my own fundamental decency. I'm no better than anyone else here. I'll still watch old footage and talk about old matches. I don't give Vince McMahon $ but I still watch old product of his. That makes me no better than the worst. I will say this Parv, it is completely obvious that something very cruel and sick happened to Snuka's girlfriend and rather than see justice done, Vince helped his star get away with at least manslaughter. Do we have proof positive of this in a court of law? No we don't. We also don't have proof Hitler ever ordered the Holocaust. Sometimes, when it's clear a crime has been committed and the system fails to provide justice, we as citizens have to make a choice of whether or not to just go along with it or not. If you choose to go along with it every time, well fine that's your right. But not all of us do.
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    I've actually got a podcast idea and hopefully a pilot on this idea. Maybe called "what's the matter with kids today" it has me showing old territorial footage to a couple of new fans, one of whom adores TNA and the other whose favorite "nostalgia" was Vince Russo WCW 2000. I want to see how they react to non-WWF pre 1995 stuff. We basically record the comments with the footage, ala Titans of Wrestling.
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    Mark my words if Stephanie dies in a plane crash HHH and Charlotte will be married within a year.
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    That is certainly valid. I was tempted to say Flair is both the GOAT and overrated.
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    I've talked about Flair before, mostly his WWF run and my problems with it. I do think Ric Flair is a great athlete but yes in general he blows spots every now and then. I never really appreciated how good the WWF camera team was during the Hogan era until I started seeing just how many more blown spots were being picked up by JCP/WCW cameras and covered up by WWF ones. Flair strikes me as frustrating because I do think he can vary up his game and wrestle different styles against different opponents but not often enough. I honestly think a lot of this is a result of his documented substance abuse issues. Even someone as brilliant as Winston Churchill could make the same talking points over and over again and at times to the worst possible audiences because the man was literally imbuing alcohol every moment he was awake. Had Flair cleaned himself up that way and applied a little more intellectual thought to his work (particularly his WWF run where he really should have adapted his style more) I think he'd be even better than he's usually regarded. I do think he is sometimes given a pass because he is the poster boy of JCP 80's which tends to be the average smart fan's favorite American promotion. But PWO (anti WWF bias at time aside) IS a lot more deep than that and HAS discussed Ric Flair to death and yes his daughter is showing him up. She's pretty much HHH's dream wrestler too, tall, blond muscular, a dominant heel who never ever jobs at PPV and the daughter of his idol so I expect a decade of dominance from her if her health holds up.
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    The whole logic of this Hogan run does make a bit of sense if Bret going over Hogan was the plan but nobody but Bret seems to believe that was ever in the works. They take the belt off Bret at WM because of slipping house show attendance. Fair enough. They put it back on proven draw Hulk Hogan. Fair enough. Who then proceeds to work only two weekends worth of house shows in tag matches for the ten weeks he is champion. WTF? And who main events almost all the house shows between WM and KOTR? Bret, usually against Luger. Did they think Bret would draw BETTER without the title? That doesn't make a stitch of sense to me. The only thing I can figure is that either Hogan didn't tell Vince he wasn't working house shows until the day after WM or house show attendance was not at all relevant to why Bret dropped the belt, but was just an excuse Vince used. I'd love to hear what Vince's real motives might have been, unless he really though he could restart Hulkamania with a Hulkster who would only work a few times a year.
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    This commentary does indeed drive me nuts. It's as if Jim Ross thinks Bobby Heenan is really insulting him and doesn't get it's a character. Either that or the so called greatest announcer in wrestling history (who isn't worthy to shine Lance Russell, Jesse Ventura OR Bobby Heenan's shoes IMO) can't condescend to having some fun. (Of course if Heenan were one of his southern friends like Cornette it would be a different story naturally) Bottom line WWF Jim Ross in this time period is a disaster, and if I were Vince I would have canned him, not hired him back and seen him finish his whiny uber sports nerd persona career in SMW.
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    I think Hogan's actions in this match are part of a trend. When Hogan hears anything less than full blown massive cheers for his act, he goes into uber selling nothing for nobody superman mode rather than allow heels to build heat on him. UT's mild cheer at Survivor Series and the crowd turning on him at Royal Rumble 92 are why he basically takes Flair and Undertaker apart 2 on 1 with ease. We see the same thing in WCW from 94-96 get progressively worse to the point where I'm convinced had the NWO not come along WW3 in 96 would have consisted of Hogan eliminating 59 wrestlers all on his own. I'm kind of shocked Vince allowed this to happen at what is basically Undertaker's last match as a heel for years. Making Flair look bad is par for the course, but he makes Taker look awful here. Had a few more months of Hogan-Taker done this way happened I'm convinced the gimmick wouldn't have lasted past maybe 1993.
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    I would have Flair take about 60 percent of the match with basically the same finish except Shawn lands wrong on his knee on the floor, is rolled in by idiot Marty, put in the figure four and made to submit. It would have been about the same length and competitive but not make Flair look like HTM v 2
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    Animal's job was after an urn shot so hardly clean. Taker didn't really beat anyone clean after Snuka in 91 except for jobbers and Kerry Von Erich. He even needed PB's help to beat the Hammer.
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    Watching at the time I thought it would be Dustin Rhodes but renamed Dustin Dibiase or something like that. "I bought a son dusty bwhahahahahaha" or something like that.
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    Yeah and other than 1 TV taping I don't think Hogan ever faced Undertaker one on one in house shows either. I agree the change wasn't done TO Savage on purpose but it was done. You are right about Event Center promos. Actually I'd like to hear some discussion about Sean Mooney. Particularly his evolution from SHOUTING AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS (yet oddly not being that loud) Event Center Sean Mooney in 1988 to a more normal human being. Granted this will involve Parv, once he regains net, having to watch hours of Sean Mooney footage to determine when and how the change occurred, but asking Parv to watch Sean Mooney footage is like asking most of us to agree to sleep with supermodels.
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    Slamboree 93 reminded me of one - Scott Norton. Dude sells nothing for nobody including the Giant.
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    hahahaha. That is funny. And the odds of the one person who would be annoyed if he heard it watching Slamboree 93 would be 6,325,000 to 1
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    Scott Norton refusing to put someone over or sell? Wonders never cease.
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    One of the things that bugs me about Savage's title reign was the poor variety of his opponents. He fought against Dibiase, Andre, Bad News and occasionally Akeem. That's about it other than a few TV matches. Compare that to Hogan in any year 84-87 and he took on EVERYONE. That Dibiase feud lasted way longer than it had too to be honest at least as far as house shows go. A Rude program would have made perfect sense (assuming Randy would play ball on Rude hitting on Liz). Perfect would have been tougher because you'd have to job him out early and that kinda ends the perfect gimmick. But in general there are a lot of heels Randy SHOULD have had matches with in 88 that he didn't.
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    And then given some penguins his awesome double legdrop when they failed to care for their kids' eggs when the female Penguins went out for food! This was a really great show. It makes me wish there was more 70's Bobby Heenan stuff because what we do have suggests he was a slightly more edgy, sharper version of the character he became. Overall I liked every pick and thought this was a very good show, coming from people who've actually seen a lot of the stuff they are talking about recently. It does make me wish Titan would open up the vaults on what 70's Bruno stuff they do have, if any, they haven't shown.
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    He did not. I can't see him as an interview guy so maybe just debuting and doing the introduction to the show.
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    Gorilla was supposed to call Mania right up until that day, but was ill and could only intro the show. That's according to JR himself.
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    I don't think there's enough 75-76 out there to do it the way you can 79 on. I'd love to see the Titans carry on and do all of 84 but maybe with a new member to transition to Hulkamania, maybe up to Wrestlemania. Because as others have said, 83 isn't all that terribly good overall. As for Vince Sr. tapping out, my understanding is that until payments from Jr were over he had control of booking the Garden, World Title and TV. Which given Vince Jr was in charge of booking the tag and IC titles before the buyout, really doesn't change all that much. It's not like you can book Boston or Philly to be THAT unique especially if you don't control TV. Conspiracy minded people have suggested Vince deliberately sank 83, giving Backlund a bunch of terrible challengers who were new OR good challengers who fans had been seen before (and that is true that it happened) in order to lower fan interest and make the transition to Hulkamania more accepted by devaluing Backlund. My only objection to this is it just seems risky for someone who doesn't even have total control of his own company to try. I think it's more likely Vince needed to wait until payments were done, and wasn't going to go out of his way to give Bob anything insanely awesome. As for Sr, yeah I think he had tapped out by this point and was just doing what he knew.
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    What a great episode! The Titans never rise more to the occasion then when they have to review terrible terrible stuff! And it doesn't get much worse than these cards, I tried sitting through them myself and pretty much gave up, using them as background filler and listening to Gorilla and Vince bicker. Glad to hear we are finally nearing the monster year of 1982, feels like it's been a long time. Have the Titans discussed any plans to continue beyond 1983 or will Bob dropping the title to the Iron Sheik be (admittedly a rather fitting) the last episode for Titans?
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