MoS

Wow this is awful. Doing this in Chicago was a really bad idea.

Whom are we supposed to cheer for in this feud lol

"Someone whose contribution to society is a VLOG!!" "Dante Martin and his high flying crap" so many awesome lines, he is just so so good. Especially at being the "not completely wrong, but definitely a complete asshole" shtick

That was tremendous.

Danielson is so fucking mean lol. Love him so much.

Credit to Mox, he is looking and moving physically the best he has in quite a while. And he remains extremely over.

Yuta is a good replacement. Mox should DDT Danhausen on the floor. After removing the mats.

Think with Kendrick, it was always known he was into wild conspiracy theories, but a) the specifics were not known; and b) it was presumed these were wacky but ultimately harmless stoner conspiracy theories, not virulently anti-semite QAnon conspiracy theories.

I mean let's be honest, his ceiling is Matt Sydal's current role. He isn't going to be a featured talent, right now he's a pawn in the Mox-Danielson build. It is not going to be a big deal cuz he isn't going to be on TV much

He would sometimes go toe to toe, punch to punch with Rock after interfering in one of his matches in 2000. It was infuriating.

It's especially funny because his rep always that of all the McMahons, he was the one who would get along with the wrestlers the best, yet by all accounts, this time he was basically written out of all possible future storylines cuz the wrestlers got really pissed at his shit and complained about him a lot. Hopefully now everyone sees he is the worst McMahon by some distance

Punk v. MJF. Big time match. Who do we have? I am thinking MJF, don't feel like they have any interest in Hangman v. Punk anytime soon.

Apparently Shane McMahon has been let go again. Hopefully for good this time.

The professional managerial class is significantly above the worker class in the capitalist hierarchy, so while they might have some grievances, the two are not in the same universe in terms of shared experiences.

They did exactly thus, and did it very well, when Lesnar won the royal rumble the first time in 2003. As soon as he had beaten - run through really, Brock v. Big Show matches back then used to be awesome - the Big Show in the opening match, everyone knew that Brock was going to win. IIRC they had him come out at #29, and Taker came out at #30. Taker wasn't the hometown hero I don't think but he was making a comeback after a while, so got a huge pop, and it was actually a clever little twist on the obvious finish/winner. If not Orton, maybe McIntyre could have come out at #30.

We did have a wrestling vs porn debate on this board years and years ago didn't we

I mean, name me an industry where workers are not terribly exploited. Indie wrestling itself being a good example.

I am not sure about all the details, but apparently Davey Richards is doing porn, which if true, is undoubtedly by some distance the coolest thing Davey Richards has ever done. As long as we don't get a 5-superplexes-in-a-row spot ever again, I am in full support.

Most non-lucha modern wrestling is pretty homogeneous in terms of structure, at least at the main event level. Heel Danielson is structuring his matches with the heel being dominant and nasty, often while bigger faces sell sympathy or are treated as underdogs. That is something we haven't seen a lot in US wrestling, so that's definitely something. At this point, more than ten years later, I think we can also firmly conceptualise what the modern WM/ Main Event epic structure is, especially because since Shawn retired, it's no longer one person working that style, but most main events being structured that way.

Bollywood also has tragic clowns. They often sing sad songs

Oh no, even by old Meltz standards this would have got at least 4.25. He's always loved such matches and there also was enough wrestling in it for 2001 Dave to rate it 4.5.

Agree about the former, disagree about the latter. There was no burn in the match at all. Just a bunch of rather weak spots without much brutality or meat. As far as iconic spots in crazy spotfests go, that Sammy cutter to Cody from one ladder to another will definitely go down as one of the most iconic ones

Yeah but that's more of a psycho trope, like Doink. That's not remotely Danhausen though.

Cassidy def is a trickster. Danhausen reminds me of a vetal who, in a twist, is actually good and wise, a popular trope in Indian folklore - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetala (Also they are not even remotely close to being comparable to vampires, what the fuck wikipedia) Like I can imagine him sitting on the back of a king (Hangman or Britt in this context I guess) and narrating stories which ultimately give a crucial worldly lesson. Not sure how that can be utilised on a national wrestling show exactly, but let's see. I am willing to give it a chance definitely

But he doesn't look like a monster, he looks like a dressed up clown (this sounds harsher than intended, but you get what I mean)