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Am I the only one who thinks that the match ended in the ladies' room without a camera present so Sullivan wouldn't actually be seen losing to Norman? A few loud crashes and a drunken stumble are one thing, but actually laying down and having Norman cover you for a three-count is something else. At least he could credibly claim in his next interview that he was never actually pinned on television (note my emphasis). At any rate, this wasn't much to me. Next time, Kevin, take the pin on camera like a man.
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[1990-02-06-NWA-Clash of the Champions X] "Cactus Jack is dead!"
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
If you thought Cactus Jack was dead after this bump, Corny, you ain't seen nothin' yet! I can see what people are saying about Mick getting up too quickly, but the character of Cactus wasn't supposed to have any sense anyway, so why wouldn't he be crazy enough to try to get up? We criticize guys too much at times for not thinking like performers in a cooperative enterprise. It may not have been good wrestling etiquette for Mick Foley to undersell the bump, but it made sense for Cactus Jack (who's a different entity, even if he shares a body with Mick Foley) to be crazy enough to try to continue the bout. I'm sorry, but I consider myself a red-blooded male, and Missy Hyatt did nothing for me at fifteen and does nothing for me now. Even to my teenage self, there was too little brain to go with that admittedly beautiful body. As far as the promo goes, you'd think that being around Eddie Gilbert would have rubbed off, but it didn't. -
These seemed like videos used to introduce Memphis talent to the Dallas audience, and they were successful, Did Champion carry his snake to the ring like Jake Roberts, at least on occasion, or was he using it for the video only?
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[1990-02-03-USWA-Championship Sports] Kerry Von Erich and The Soul Taker
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
This wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be. The "I'm 19" stuff was clearly meant to be a joke, calling Percy "Marc" was an honest fluff (at least the first time) and it sounds like Kerry's just repeating what Soultaker said earlier about "standing in the dark corners" and such. The moment of the piece for me was when Kerry stopped in the middle and somewhat shyly said, "Sometimes I don't feel worthy of this". That's plenty sad, because you get the feeling that he's speaking as Kerry Adkisson, not the Modern Day Warrior, for just a second. I like Percy, but he's no play-by-play guy/host. Was Frank Dusek gone by now?- 11 replies
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[1990-02-03-USWA-Championship Sports] Interview: Jerry Lawler
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
If it's true that the best heel promos are done by heels who honestly believe they're babyfaces, this is a prime example. There are times when you know that the King knows what he's saying is highly questionable at best and utter bullshit at worst, but this isn't one of them. He's straight on and dead serious, and you want to go to the Sportatorium to see if Jarrett and Dundee can summon up those guts that he's talking about. It's kind of a shame he's still busy with Cobra back home in Memphis, because if you take out the references to Dallas, this promo could help sell out the Mid-South Coliseum as well, especially with the wrestlers involved in the match. I have to admit that I'm beginning to come around a bit on Dallas Lawler; he's really had a good few segments since his awful match with JYD. I just hope he can keep it up throughout the year.- 11 replies
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Did they ever explain in the storyline why Steve Williams changed his name to Austin? I'm pretty sure that his legit reason was that he didn't want to be confused with Doc, but did they ever say anything about it on promos or interviews? Introducing him as Akbar's "Six Million Dollar Wrestler" might have been a good way to start him off. I can hear glimmers of Stone Cold already, although Austin's voice is much higher here. Adams, by contrast, doesn't sound like a whole lot at all. He was much better on the mic as part of the Dynamic Duo with Gino Hernandez. Please let this be the end of Terrance Garvin. Whoever thought he could approach even the worst of Jesse Ventura as a heel commentator needed to be fired.
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A little better than the last one because it actually hypes the card. What did they mean by Sting being a "dream of etymology"? I'm guessing they just needed a rhyme for "biology".
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[1990-02-03-NWA-World Championship Wrestling] Interview: Four Horsemen
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
Good point by Cox about Flair's style here; he's back to doing the same heel promo he's done with only minor variations since JCP debuted on TBS in 1985. Also a good point about the rest of the card receiving only scant mention, but then again that's true of WrestleWar too at this point, commercials aside. The NWA wants its fans focused on the cage match and the cage match alone, which will only make the impact of the Horsemen turn bigger. I can't fault the strategy, although unforeseen events make it look rather stupid in hindsight. -
I remember this one like it was yesterday. Maybe I'm strange, but this was too short to offend me, or make any other real impression either. What did you guys expect, a Grammy-winning classic? It's wrestling, for heaven's sake!
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Not bad for a commercial. The Steiners definitely didn't need to talk. Can it be any more obvious that Ron Simmons is one of Doom? Sounds like Tama was speaking a combination of pidgin English and pseudo-Samoan gibberish. The subtitles were a hoot. Why not a word from Buzz on behalf of J-Tex? After all, they are the other half of your main event.
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[1990-02-03-NWA-World Championship Wrestling] Woman Wants Flair
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
It would have been interesting to see Arn and Ole come out instead of Flair, since this "arrangement" that Woman seems to be going for affects them as much as Flair. It would have also been a nice change of pace, as this is the third time we've seen almost this exact confrontation, the second time on the Slugger. I'm guessing that Woman tempting Ric is supposed to be some kind of subtle foreshadowing of the heel turn, but maybe that's just hindsight. -
[1990-02-10-USWA-Championship Sports] Kerry Von Erich and Gorky Park
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
Did anyone else get the feeling that Kerry paused after mentioning that Gorky Park was from the Soviet Union as if daring the rednecks in the Sportatorium crowd to boo them with him standing there? I definitely believe that the Von Erichs were anti-drugs and pro-family; it's just a shame that their portrayers, the Adkissons, weren't.- 14 replies
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[1990-02-09-NWA-Power Hour] Sting has been attacked
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
This wasn't too bad. I like how they mentioned that Sting had hurt his leg beforehand, which made the Horsemen seem even more vicious and cruel because they attacked someone who was already injured. If you had to have a Horsemen heel turn at the Clash (and I'm not convinced at all that it couldn't have waited until the following Saturday night), this was the way to take further advantage of it. -
[1990-02-09-NWA-Power Hour] Funk's Grill: Jim Cornette
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
As good as Funk was from what little I've seen, Corny fits the bill as an interview segment host much better. It's too bad Vince didn't give him the old Brother Love segment when he came in '93; he would have been just as good as Lawler (had The King's Court debuted yet?). Still, nothing beats vintage Piper's Pit, or even modern Piper's Pit, which is the one vestige of the current product I check out on YouTube if I happen to remember reading that Rod showed up on a given week.- 13 replies
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[1990-02-06-NWA-Clash of the Champions X] Steve Williams entrance
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
This totally goes against Doc's image, and I'm surprised he went along with it. No wonder he spent most of his prime in Japan. On another note, Tama (The Samoan Savage) sure got fat in a hurry, didn't he? He looked like he was about two fifty when he left Vince, but he's well over three hundred here.- 15 replies
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[1990-02-03-WWF-Superstars] Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior promos
garretta replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
Hogan challenges Warrior to a World title match, while Warrior moans about being eliminated from behind at the Rumble. All the rest is just hot air. Well-spoken hot air, at least for a wrestling promo, but hot air nonetheless. The "Ultimate Challenge" (both titles on the line) isn't in place yet, and it sure seems like they were at least debating a Warrior heel turn at this early stage of the proceedings. Warrior sure could have used Heenan (no one else would do as a manager for him as a heel) to help him make at least a speck of sense; as I recall, his baloney in particular only gets more bizarre from here.- 17 replies
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That would have been something else! Forgot to mention the foreshadowing of Luger claiming that he'd be involved in the World title match at WrestleWar one way or another. It wasn't intentional, obviously, since no one could have predicted Sting's injury, but it was foreshadowing nonetheless.
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I haven't seen the Clash bout in years, but I feel safe in saying that this match is better than that one. Not only is the crowd hotter (even watching live, I thought the Clash crowd was muted, which made sense considering what they'd just seen), but the action's much crisper. Again, for someone who was used to TV main event six-mans ending after a minute and a half in a double-DQ, matches like this continue to be a revelation. Sting certainly has the crowd in the palm of his hand here; they're ready for him to be The Man. What goes wrong once he comes back from his injury will certainly be worth exploring as this yearbook rolls on. Flair and Arn, beloved though they are, definitely take a back seat. Interesting to see some Muta signs in the crowd. What would have happened if he'd chosen to stick it out stateside? Interesting tidbit from Charles about the original plans for the Horsemen. Tully, Arn, Luger and Windham with Ole as the manager would have been tremendous. On the other side: Flair, Sting, and.....whom? Orndorff would probably have been one, but you'd think they'd have done better than JYD or Gigante as a fourth. Doc, maybe? Eddie Gilbert, if you want to go outside the box? It would have been better than what we got, that's for sure.
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Wow. From beginning to end, a total war. Someone further up who didn't care quite as much for this match as I did says that at some point it went from Liger getting out of predicaments to Sano not having enough to put Liger away. Trust me, he had enough, but Liger just would not be beaten. That's what makes this epic; Sano uses every move he knows, some more than once, and knocks Liger out at least five times by my count, but still can't beat him. Then he starts trying too hard, makes a few mistakes, and Liger's able to turn the tide and eventually get the win. Of course, the feud will continue, as Liger realizes that his mask has been ripped off (all the better for Sano to bloody his face) and is so incensed that he won't even accept the belt, and slaps around a few ring boys to boot. If there was a rematch down the line, I hope we get to see it, because it ought to be another classic. This is definitely my foreign Match of the Month. Does it beat Garvin/Valentine for overall honors? The WWF was in many ways my "home" promotion, and I'm a big fan of both Ronnie and Greg, so I'd say this match finishes second by a hundredth of a nose. This match was probably "better", but nostalgia also carries some weight, and that's enough to put Garvin/Valentine over the top.
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[1990-01-16-UWF-with '90] Akira Maeda vs Nobuhiko Takada
garretta replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
Again I seem to have a contrary opinion. The entire purpose of shoot style is to avoid being knocked down or having to use the ropes to break a submission hold. Matches worked with this in mind, like this one, can be very exciting; the trouble is that there are some shoot-style matches that are worked almost like amateur matches, only without the possibility of pinfalls. In other words, each man is trying to put the other on his back for no reason whatsoever, which leads to interminable boredom for a lot of people. Fortunately, Maeda and Takada remembered what they were there for and delivered. Maeda controlled most of this match by trying to break Takada's ankle with the three-quarter crab, and for a while, it seemed almost like a squash. But then Takada got that shot to the face in, slapped on the anklelock, and all of a sudden it was over, to the crowd's delight. I'm still not as keen on shoot-style as on "regular" pro wrestling, and I'm not sure I'd buy another set like the Other Japan 80s set where most of the bouts are worked this way, but a well-done bout like this is a nice change of pace from the American style here and there on a long set like this.- 18 replies
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Two things stand out about this one: Takagi literally getting the tar kicked out of him by Tenryu, and the unbelievable ringside brawl. I had no idea that it was notables such as Fuchi and Kabuki that Tenryu got into it with; I thought it was just a couple of ringboys, and I wondered why a bunch of them would go nuts enough on Tenryu to cause him to be cut. The ringside brawl was almost as good as the postmatch brawl in the Jarrett/Travis match, and it elevates this one to my foreign Match of the Month over the joshi tag with two matches left to watch.
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I was much more impressed than everyone else, I guess. The story was simple to me: Each of these guys want to be the number one contender for the junior championship, and the other guy is in the way. I liked Owen's aggressiveness here, and Liger's whole game is acrobatics, so it wasn't out of place. Liger undersold the tombstone, to be sure, but that was the only really noticeable gaffe. Owen did a fine job selling the superplex/powerbomb combination that ended it. I also agree that it was nice to see a Hart use the Sharpshooter before it was the Sharpshooter, so to speak. Looking forward to the Liger/Sano title bout that this match sets up.
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[1990-01-19-NWA-Power Hour] Arn Anderson vs Buzz Sawyer
garretta replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
Solid, hard-hitting bout that's a good standalone as well as a furthering of the Horsemen/J-Tex feud that will be settled at the Clash. Also sets up a six-man for the following week on the Power Hour, which makes three main events in a row for that show on the yearbook. If I had a TV Show of the Month award, it would win hands down. JR and Corny mix jokes and commentary well here. It helps that these two are friends behind the scenes going back to their days with Watts. It makes them comfortable with each other, and JR needs to work with people he's personally comfortable with to be at his best. The match itself was all about the body part work: AA on Buzz's arm, and Buzz on Arn's back. It was all brutal and well-executed, particularly the post shot on Arn's back. I couldn't actually see the ring sway, but the thwack of Arn's back hitting the post was more than convincing enough. As for what Ole sold in the beatdown afterward, Buzz was one of his old friends from Georgia, so he was doing him a favor. Odds were he wouldn't have sold a Muta moonsault nearly as well, or at all. But when you're the booker, you can no-sell whatever you like. -
[1990-01-26-USWA Texas] Jeff Jarrett vs Billy Joe Travis (Guitar on a Pole)
garretta replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
I think I have a new number two for Match of the Month behind Garvin/Valentine. This was one of the wildest brawls I've ever seen, and I wouldn't have thought Jeff Jarrett capable of a match like this. Travis takes an insane amount of punishment, but Marc explains the circumstances well enough that you understand why. As for Lawler, he was probably the MVP of the whole segment, and this comes just a week after an embarrassing performance against JYD. I still vastly prefer him as a face, but he showed an energy and a meanness here that has me ready to see his early WWF work against Bret Hart, which his work here seems to resemble. Line of the segment: Marc telling the King, "Terrance Garvin has taught me how to respond to you (i.e., no-selling his insults)". At least that waste of space turned out to be good for something!- 18 replies
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A typically chaotic eight-man tag, with Ricky Morton reprising his award-winning role as wrestling's favorite punching bag. It was odd to see Shane Douglas as a high flyer here. I'm still not sure what happened at the finish, as the camera was filming everything but the ring. I know I didn't hear a bell, which makes the whole business that much odder. Say what you will about Vince, but he'd never let sloppiness like this air on TV. That includes the sloppiness of the wrestlers, as Douglas noticeably had to move so Eaton didn't hit Lane with the Alabama Jam. Probably the worst WCW match of the month by a wide margin with two left to watch.
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