BillThompson

Order changes a lot, but right now, 1. Timothy Thatcher 2. Chris Hero 3. Virus 4. Dragon Lee 5. Sasha Banks 6. Roderick Strong 7. Drew Gulak 8. Kairi Hojo 9. Pentagon Jr. 10. Joe Gacy 11. Biff Busick 12. Io Shirai 13. Kamaitachi 14. Cesaro 15. Luke Harper 16. Mil Muertes 17. Roman Reigns 18. Asuka 19. Mike Bailey 20. Frankie Pickard So, massive oversight on my part, forgot about Akiyama, Akebono, and Miyahara. Let's go with this list instead, 1. Timothy Thatcher 2. Chris Hero 3. Virus 4. Dragon Lee 5. Jun Akiyama 6. Sasha Banks 7. Roderick Strong 8. Drew Gulak 9. Akebono 10. Kairi Hojo 11. Pentagon Jr. 12. Joe Gacy 13. Biff Busick 14. Io Shirai 15. Kamaitachi 16. Cesaro 17. Kento Miyahara 18. Luke Harper 19. Mil Muertes 20. Roman Reigns

Don't really think there is one to be honest. Outside of The Dissolve I don't think there's been a website devoted to any aspect of pop culture that I've read that I found to be worth checking out on a regular basis. With this quote, you seem to suggest nothing is good enough for you. That's such an extreme stance that it renders your criticism of Grantland meaningless. Wasn't my intention; but I worded that poorly. It's not that there isn't anything good enough for me, it's that the talented writers are spread out across many different sites so there really isn't a one stop shop pop culture and sports website that is mainly excellent like Ben was asking about. The Dissolve is the closest I've ever read to a site with nothing but extremely talented writers, but they were strictly movies and rarely touched on other aspects of pop culture.

She has that pesky problem of tripping over her own feet all the time.

How is everything beneath me if I said they had some excellent stuff, but the majority was trash? We shouldn't celebrate mediocrity in journalism, but with Grantland it seems we are all too willing to do as such. For every Keri or Morris there were ten Shoemaker's or Simmons' whose output was below what most would consider quality journalism. The whole thing was a vanity project for Simmons, and with few exceptions it never graduated beyond that level.

The Shawn/Razor ladder rematch was built around a beginning where Razor attacked Shawn's leg with and without the ladder. It was also a medicore match because Shawn decided he didn't want to sell one lick of the leg work long term.

I've had a few friends in the local indie scene who have told me stories of Colt gladly stepping all over them if they weren't a part of his circle. He's been known to steal ideas from other wrestlers, as well as to start rumors about wrestlers to get them kicked off of bookings that he can then swoop in on. The only issues I've had where I was involved dealt with him using religion/ethnicity against someone I was with in a very demeaning way.

Don't really think there is one to be honest. Outside of The Dissolve I don't think there's been a website devoted to any aspect of pop culture that I've read that I found to be worth checking out on a regular basis.

Really can't stand him as a wrestler, never mind as a person. I enjoy comedy wrestling, I'd point to Dude Love/Triple H from One Night Stand 1997 as an easy MOTYC because of how well worked of a comedy match it is. But, comedy needs to be funny, and interesting; neither of which are true for Cabana matches.

Won't get my vote, but I really like him. A solid hand who was almost always good, and could be great at times.

Honestly, outside of a small handful of writers Grantland was never better than mediocre and was pretty awful most of the time. Never want anyone to lose their jobs, but I also don't want the guy at the corner bakery to keep making substandard muffins for me to consume. Grantland was a whole lot of substandard muffins with the occasional excellent muffin; it needed to be put out to pasture.

Awful comparison, really. Necro was a freak show garbage guy in US indys. Necro was much more than that, and actually he was very rarely that. He'll probably make my list as he is one of the best brawlers I've ever seen, who threw top notch punches, had believable offense, and could bump and sell his tail off.

I second everything Ryan said, and you can't go wrong with either the new website or the traditional magazine.

Pro Wrestling Guerrilla: Battle of Los Angeles '15 - Day 2 (08-29-2015) Timothy Thatcher vs. Chris Hero Read about this one at Blue Thunder Driver.

I saw the ones from 91-93 that was in puropotsy piece on PTBN. For some reason, a lot of shoot style stuff has vanished from the media sites in the last few weeks. It may be a Samurai TV thing.

Has anyone anywhere said this is what we're going on? Work rate is a terrible 'statistic' that should die in a fire regardless. It literally rewards a lack of selling, pacing and storytelling so there can be more moves. Its doesn't even successfully define its parameters. UGH. If that's how you define workrate, because let me tell you something workrate has many different definitions these days.

I like her a lot, for me though I think it's an issue of her best stuff that I've seen being good to great, but not blow away. I haven't seen a lot though, and if I see more and she keeps up the high quality I could see her sneaking onto the end of my list.

For Kopylov I am to assume you've seen the famous Han matches?

I'm with Sammy and some others, at this point I don't want Parv participating in the project. Heck, I don't even want him on the forums anymore. He's been disrespectful to other posters (and not just in this thread) and has flat out acted like a child while telling others that their approach is secondary to his and that they are doing everything wrong compared to his almighty and correct approach. He has told others that his opinion is the only right opinion, and did take his ball and go home just because of people approaching the project with different criteria and having different opinions than him. We have a guy in this thread who is treating lots of posters like straight up garbage and instead of addressing that we're debating other matters. Any respect I had for Parv is gone, because it's not okay from him to tramp around these forums and treat anyone who disagrees with him like they are a second class citizen. That's all he does now, and not only is it tiring, but it goes against the very tenets of this board. And if we're going to allow his disrespect and disregard for other posters to go unchecked then what is the point of this place anyways?

For me it's like taking a deep breath. We spend a period of time intent on this project, deep in focus. Then we get 5-10 years to breathe and to allow the results of our work to stand on their own. After we've ingested enough new wrestling, and had some time off, we start the process anew. Doing it year after year removes most of that, which lessens the process in my eyes.

Nice, I've only ever seen the 12-22-1989 and 06-30-1990 encounters, which were really great.

I'll be lucky to make it to March...

All these replies are well and good, but they are glossing over the way that Parv continues to treat those who disagree with him. This board is supposed to be built on the idea of exchanging ideas, bouncing theories off of one another, and sharing our opinions of wrestlers, promotions, eras, and wrestling in general. For the most part this is accomplished, and we all like the little community we have here. However I know there are people who have left, been run off, or stopped posting suddenly because of the way their opinions are treated by one person, that person being Parv. It really is ridiculous that in topic after topic opinions are treated like they don't count, are stupid, or that the person posting them should be discounted or is stupid simply because Parv doesn't agree with them. It's the general tone, the way that people are told their opinion is arbitrary, or that they need to prove to him that their opinion is honest. This isn't Parv Wrestling Only, but it plays out like that at times, and it really does a disservice to what this place usually is for me, and many others. By all means keep the high quality comments/replies coming, but let's not gloss over the fact that this all started because once again Parv decided that people here didn't fit his high standards and that their opinion wasn't worth anything because they had a different opinion than him or were approaching the project differently than him. All the purple prose in the world can't cover up tone and actual verbiage used.

Vader's still my #1 big man, with Andre, Blackwell, and Henry a ways behind him.

This is childish "take my ball and go home because people don't agree with me," bullshit. Seriously, this is the sort of stuff that makes me never want to talk wrestling with you. People think differently than you, who cares? You're constantly putting all these qualifiers in place for people, like somehow your opinion holds more merit than theirs and is more special or something. It's all gotten to be quite ridiculous, and now, because some people may think Wrestler A is a better worker than one of your favorites you're quitting the project. What are you, five?

Not yet, will hopefully be getting to it in the next couple of weeks. Have heard very good things about it though.