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So we have had an opportunity to let the dust settle a little bit... Boon and Dex, is there still a call for the supplemental draft? With all the trades going through, I am able to shuffle some talent at this point.

WWF Wrestling Challenge Gorilla Monsoon & Bobby The Brain Heenan in studio Matches from Hershey, PA – Hershypark Arena The Killer Bees vs The Faces of Fear w/ Bobby Heenan -Heenan messes up with his communication and we see Blair pin Barbarian after a double dropkick. The Faces of Fear then walk off on Heenan. Back on commentary he says that these two are nuts and they are no longer in the family… Sika w/ Gary Hart defeated Skip Young -Sika is on a reign of Terror here and he just destroys Skip Young. Gary Hart has an inset promo saying that he and Sika will be traveling the world and they are set to find their next Colossus. PIPER’S PIT Roddy Piper w/ Ivan and Nikita Koloff -An interesting segment with Roddy Piper trying to interview Nikita about his hatred of Hulk Hogan and America. He also puts over the big showdown with Ivan and Hillbilly Jim at the Summer Showdown. The problem comes with Piper tries to quip with Nikita who doesn’t take it kindly and just DESTROYS him. The Sickle is in full effect and he just tears his head off. Nikita then picks Piper up and tosses him into the set as it falls down. Officials and agents run down and try to hold him back but it is Uncle Ivan who has to back him off. Who is going to stop this Russian Nightmare? EIGHT-MAN TAG ELIMINATION TAG Mark Youngblood & The Guerreros vs Jay Youngblood, Ron Bass, Black Bart, & Jack Lanza -Chavo Guerrero was the sole survivor. We saw the Youngbloods get double DQ outside the ring. Jack Lanza looked very rough out there, his days have to be done soon. Mando and Hector were both eliminated by Ron Bass before Chavo made the big comeback for the victory. WWF EVENT CENTER WWF Presents: The Summer Showdown Live on June 9th The Sports Arena – Los Angeles, California MAIN EVENT WWF CHAMPIONSHIP CAGE MATCH Hulk Hogan © versus “King” Harley Race w/ Bobby Heenan TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP The Machines vs Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams © INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage © w/ Elizabeth vs King Kong Bundy w/ Bobby Heenan Tito Santana vs Greg Valentine w/ Jimmy Hart Bobby Fulton & The Killer Bees vs Brutus Beefcake & The Hart Foundation Dino Bravo vs Jake Roberts Hillbilly Jim vs Ivan Koloff w/ Nikita Koloff

Alright fellas, Lots of trades go through today... I was a catalyst for a lot of movement so on my end... here are the trades that went through... WWF sends The British Bulldogs to AWA for The Fabulous ones WWF sends the Fabulous Ones to USWA for Arn Anderson WWF sends Big John Studd, Haku, & Barbarian to CCW for Ole Anderson, Billy Jack Haynes, and The Missing Link WWF sends Roddy Piper, Ole Anderson, Arn Anderson, and Mark & Jay Youngblood to MACW for Barry Windham, Kamala, Steve Lombardi, Paul Roma, & Jimmy Powers

WWF News -No WWF House Show tour this week. Superstars had television tapings in Hershey PA on Tuesday before heading home for a couple of days and then they will be back in Philadelphia on the 1st for a big show headlined by Hulk Hogan vs King King Bundy in a Leather Strap Match. -The Summer Showdown is beginning to really take shape for next week. The big matches of Hogan vs Race, The Machines vs Hernandez & Adams, and then Savage vs Bunny has been signed and released. The big showdown with Tito Santana and Greg Valentine is also a major contest. Other rumored matches include Dino Bravo vs Jake Roberts even without any build and then Bobby Fulton and the Killer Bees taking on Brutus Beefcake and the Hart Foundation. Hillbilly Jim is set to return to action against Ivan Koloff. Look for Rowdy Roddy Piper to be involved in some way as there is even talk of him being the special referee for a contest. -Speaking of Rowdy Piper, he, like Andre the Giant has had some issues with Vince McMahon and the WWF and has asked for the opportunity to look for work elsewhere. Anyone interested in picking up Piper's services should contact the WWF offices immediately to see if they can pick up his contract.

I wanted to throw my scenario into the mix as this is one I have always enjoyed thinking about. The Black Scorpion (supposed to be Al Perez) "debuts" in August. Now Sting does defeat The Scorpion (Perez) in September at the Clash. Rude leaves the WWF in October... Around October, Rude is defeating the Scorpion (Bill Irwin) For most of November, the Scorpion is losing to Brian Pillman and Tom Zenk... so during this time is the real negotiation to get Rude to come in. Starrcade is December 16th... this could be Rude's debut as the Scorpion... now you have a couple of different routes... 1. Does he join up with the Horsemen in Sid Vicious spot? 2. Paul E had hinted about knowing his identity... do he and Rude join forces this early? Are there some other scenarios that you can think of? I think he would be a HUGE pick up at the time... but where does he fit in the long haul? Would Luger turn heel? Would Flair still leave when he did? Would Rude win the title from Sting in January like Flair did? I know contracts would probably be the kicker here with the no compete or if there was an injury for Rude... but still a fun idea to kick around.

WWF Live 5/26/1985 Miami, FL – Knight Center WWF CHAMPIONSHIP Hulk Hogan © defeated Big John Studd Roddy Piper vs Harley Race went to a double DQ TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP Gino & Adams over the Killer Bees INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage over Bundy via Count Out! Tito Santana & Jake Roberts defeated Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake The Machines defeated The Faces of Fear The Hart Foundation defeated the British Bulldogs

WWF Superstars Vince McMahon & Jesse the Body Ventura Matches from St. Louis, MO – Kiel Auditorium Bobby Fulton vs Harley Race w/ Bobby Heenan -A really fun contest with Fulton cutting his chops as a singles competitor. He works well with Race who gives him a chance to shine but St. Louis is Harley’s town and tonight the King reigns supreme. He finishes him off with a pile driver and that's all she wrote. Nikita Koloff w/ Ivan Koloff defeated Bart Sawyer -Ivan is on hype duty here pumping up Nikita something special. He puts him through the roof and says that Hulk Hogan’s days are numbered and Nikita will unleash the worst beating he has ever felt on him! Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams defeated the Invaders -Inset interview from the Machines who say they are going to DEMOLISH Adams and Hernandez on June the 9th in Los Angeles. The titles are on the line and there will be nowhere to run! Sika w/ Gary Hart defeated Terry Daniels -This very evil and dangerous individual is making his return to the WWF. Gary Hart joins him. Heenan makes note that Gary and Jimmy are not related but that Gary Hart is one of the most dangerous managers in the world and someone who knows how to find talent from all over the world. We see Sika just destroys Terry Daniels tonight before hitting a Samoan Drop for the victory. Gary Hart gets on the microphone for just a moment to let the people know and to let all the wrestlers in the back know that Gary Hart means money and he has found the most dangerous talent from around the world and is going to bring them here to the WWF to not only dominate but change wrestling forever! Tito Santana vs Bret Hart w/ Jimmy Hart -A very good television main event with Tito and Bret doing some good work for about 12-minutes. Jimmy tries to get involved but nothing doing as Tito is able to send him packing. The Anvil then comes out but gets rocked with a huge dropkick sending him into the guardrail. Then we have Greg Valentine come over the guardrail and he clips Tito’s knee. It is a 3 on 1 just pure beat down on Tito Santana. Here comes Brutus with the clippers as Greg Valentine locks in the figure four and the Harts are kicking and stomping away at him. Jimmy Hart is yelling for Brutus to cut the hair but Brutus isn’t budging right yet… he bows down to begin to cut but here comes the Killer Bees and Bobby Fulton! They chase these guys off but Tito is in a serious bad way. He is holding that knee tight and this could spell some serious bad news for Tito. WWF EVENT CENTER WWF Presents: THE SUMMER SHOWDOWN Live on June 9th, 29185 The Sports Arena - Los Angeles, CA MAIN EVENT WWF CHAMPIONSHIP CAGE MATCH Hulk Hogan © versus “King” Harley Race w/ Bobby Heenan TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP The Machines vs Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams © INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage © w/ Elizabeth vs King Kong Bundy w/ Bobby Heenan Tito Santana vs Greg Valentine w/ Jimmy Hart Bobby Fulton & The Killer Bees vs Brutus Beefcake & The Hart Foundation Dino Bravo vs Jake Roberts More matches to be announced soon! Hulk Hogan: Well it looks like the date is set for the King to be crowned dude… Harley Race… you may walk around and ask for the taxes of all those beneath you but you can call me Robin Hood because I am going to take everything you have got and I am going to give it out to the Millions and Millions of Hulkamaniacs all over the world. Come June the 9th in Los Angeles… they are going to have to check the Richter Scale because I am going to put you right through the mat and all the way to the center of the Earth! Harley Race: Hogan… you see this crown… it is missing the crown jewel and that is the gold right around your waist. You may think you are a true champion but I have been the champion of the world and I am going to prove to everyone out there… all the peasants… that they have to bow down and when I make you bow… the rest will follow!!

After speaking with some other promoters... you will have the opportunity to pass on these supplemental draft. We can offer talent and if you want to pick them you can. I can say 100% on my own behalf and from speaking to others privately that the "reluctantancy" is not about giving up talent. The supplemental draft can work if you're interested in who we offer, if not, then be direct and say who you'd like to have a shot with.

I know I offered talent to you as well Boon and was told in so many words if they weren't Calgary guys, you would just try to trade them. Again... this is an idea to help both of you... it works for everyone... we can offer up talent... though if you don't see quality in what is offered there isn't too much we can do about that... all we can do is continue to try and help as it sounds like WE all have.

Any talent given into the supplemental draft can be retained if not selected.

After June 1st, we will put together the lists and then you guys can do work.

No... I just don't like the passivity of the argument. I would prefer for things to be up front "I would like to have more quality on my roster, please give me talent to do so. Can you guys help?" I am all about the growth of the game obviously. That's why I have taken the leadership role of helping everyone get going. The supplemental draft is the best option. I know there are a lot of trades on June 1st so we will wait until those go through and then we can put together lists and get it going from there.

I had a nice message pointing out the "quality" topic that we were all told was not an issue but here we are with it being brought up once again. Let's look at a supplemental draft type deal after June 1st. Each promotion can give from 5-10 people up that PR and Smokey Mountain can pick... perhaps we do a quick 6 round type deal depending on all who is given up... could be more if there is the talent.

WWF Live 5/25/1985 Boston, MA – The Boston Garden WWF CHAMPIONSHIP Hulk Hogan © defeated Big John Studd Roddy Piper vs Harley Race went to a double DQ TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP Gino & Adams over the Killer Bees INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage over Bundy via Count Out! Tito Santana & Jake Roberts defeated Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake The Machines defeated The Faces of Fear The Hart Foundation defeated the British Bulldogs

WWF Wrestling Challenge Gorilla Monsoon & Bobby The Brain Heenan in studio Matches from St. Louis, MO – Kiel Auditorium Jake Roberts defeated Victor Rivera -Jake Roberts looks good here today and handles Victor Rivera with no problem. The short arm clothesline sets up the DDT for the 1…2….3! Jake handles him and works the crowd. Brutus Beefcake w/ Jimmy Hart defeated Barry Horowitz -A good showing for Brutus who is continuing to find his groove here as a singles and sometimes tag team competitor. He puts Horowitz down with the sleeper and even takes a snip of his hair to gloat to the crowd. Sika w/ Gary Hart defeated Terry Daniels -This very evil and dangerous individual is making his return to the WWF. Gary Hart joins him. Heenan makes note that Gary and Jimmy are not related but that Gary Hart is one of the most dangerous managers in the world and someone who knows how to find talent from all over the world. We see Sika just destroys Terry Daniels tonight before hitting a Samoan Drop for the victory. Gary Hart gets on the microphone for just a moment to let the people know and to let all the wrestlers in the back know that Gary Hart means money and he has found the most dangerous talent from around the world and is going to bring them here to the WWF to not only dominate but change wrestling forever! EIGHT-MAN TAG Mark Youngblood & The Guerreros vs Jay Youngblood, Ron Bass, Black Bart, & Jack Lanza -A pretty good 8-man tag here. Mark Youngblood is recovering from injuries while Jack Lanza is in the twilight of his career or maybe a couple of years past. This one goes kind of break loose with all eight men getting involved in the pinfalls. The finish sees Jay Youngblood kick Mark in the back of the head and roll him up with a handful of tights before chaos ensues. Gorilla and Heenan put this through the roof as they word that next week it is going to be an EIGHT-MAN ELIMINATION MATCH RIGHT HERE ON CHALLENGE! See you next week!! WWF EVENT CENTER WWF Presents: THE SUMMER SHOWDOWN Live on June 9th, 29185 The Sports Arena - Los Angeles, CA MAIN EVENT WWF CHAMPIONSHIP CAGE MATCH Hulk Hogan © versus “King” Harley Race w/ Bobby Heenan TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP The Machines vs Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams © INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage © w/ Elizabeth vs King Kong Bundy w/ Bobby Heenan More matches to be announced soon!

Dexstar is coming back to take over PR. He is still setting up how it will work. He will post his initial roster in the Free Agent thread and get going soon. AWA, UWF, and NWA... get to recruiting...

I just put a LOT of names out there... let's try and go through some of these lists and see who needs to be taken off for one reason or another. Thanks for everyone's help! That also includes workers specific to Japan and Mexico. Grimmas sent me a message quitting Mexico so it is open for an individual who wants to take it. But we can modify the lists from there.

I made the 87, 88, and 89 fresh face lists primarily because in doing research, a lot of guys appear to debut on different years. This way we can start those lists and compare them to the ones we are working on to give a more clear idea of who is debuting when.

Rock N Rolls to the WWF on July 6th please.

Rock N Roll Express on June 9th and June 30th for the WWF please.

WWF NEWS Is Vince McMahon really suing Andre the Giant for breach of contract? - There is talk of this circulating right now within the wrestling industry. Andre was present at the Saturday Night's Main Event as the Giant Machine but left soon after. It is said that Hulk Hogan was the one trying to mediate between McMahon and the Giant. Vince feels as though he should have control over Andre's dates along with his business enterprises in Montreal. The recent allegations of tampering with regards to the Montreal Forum, Toronto Maple Leaf Gardens, and issues with Lutte International set this issue in a tailspin. Additionally, Andre the Giant is said to be making around 10-15 thousand a week in Japan for the tours which is a little more than he makes with the WWF as they don't use him consistently. This could be a major coup and something to keep a close eye on over the summer. WWF is planning a big summer tour! - The WWF looks to continue its loop of towns through the United States while adding in a city here and there. The WWF has three big shows over the next month to really kick things in gear for the summer. June the 9th is the Summer Showdown from Los Angeles, June 30th is the Royal Brawl from Chicago, and then July the 6th is Saturday Night's Main Event from Houston. These trios of shows should effectively end and begin new storylines for the summer while also setting into place the alignment of some of the top stars. Stars changing hearts -We saw the "turn" if you will of Roddy Piper on Saturday Night's Main Event. While not a full fledged babyface, he will be pitted against more heels down the line but could always switch his motives. Randy Savage has been very subtle about his attempts to become more of a heel and this could come full circle by the end of the summer and him being pitted against Hogan for a title for title series. Jake Roberts has also been getting a lot of cheers lately and the WWF has been working on a way to package him to become a top level babyface. Some new faces ​-The WWF is looking to add some new workers to their crop while some of the others fade out. Expect Jack Lanza to finish up his run here over the next couple of weeks and become more of a worker backstage. His playing days are done but still has a good mind for the business. The British Bulldogs have all but given their slips to the WWF but still have contracted dates. No word on where they will end up. Mark and Jay Youngblood are not happy about being split up as a tag team and even though the storyline has legs, they may be looking for somewhere else to work in the future. There have been a lot of names circulating around to potentially bring into the WWF but the one I keep hearing is Sika. This could be a big get for the WWF as he is yet another Lutte International talent they have been able to sway. Afa and Sika have set up shop in the Pennsylvania area and have been courted but Sika may come in as a solo act. The Rock N Roll Express has also been toyed with. They are not as well known in the North but do have some name value and the WWF has thought about bringing them in to feud with the Harts due to the injury of Tommy Rogers.

Continued success here in Japan. Of the upcoming card, I would like to have seen the Lawler and Jumbo team q good bit. The Giant main event tag is also high on my list. Looking forward to more!

WWF on Tour Pittsfield, MA - Boy's Club Springfield, MA - Civic Center Landover, MD - Capital Centre WWF CHAMPIONSHIP Hulk Hogan © defeated King Kong Bundy Roddy Piper defeated Big John Studd Harley Race defeated Tony Atlas The Machines defeated the Faces of Fear Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams defeated Bobby Fulton & Chavo Guerrero Nikita Koloff w/ Ivan destroyed SD Jones WWF on Tour Salisbury, MD - Wicomico Youth & Civic Center Holyoke, MA - Boys Club Skowhegan, ME – Civic Center INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage © defeated Dino Bravo Tito Santana vs Greg Valentine went to a double DQ The Hart Foundation defeated The British Bulldogs Jake Roberts defeated Brutus Beefcake Jay Youngblood defeated Mark Youngblood The Guerreros defeated Bass & Bart

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machines_(professional_wrestling) I think the big reason was to piss off Heenan. They put over how everyone knew who the Machines were and it was just foil to make Heenan upset. I think that is part of what is going on here but I will let everyone know that the payoff to this whole thing is going to happen and will hopefully be enjoyable for everyone. I have got it planned out and look forward to letting it loose.