LowBlowPodcast

WWF Superstars Vince McMahon & Jesse the Body Ventura Matches from Allentown, PA – Agricultural Hall Haku, Tonga, & The Barbarian w/ Kevin Sullivan defeated The Medics -A fun introductory six-man for these three as Sullivan is introducing his faces of fear as he calls them to the world. We see the medics, guys under hoods, get just destroyed. We hear Vince and Jesse put over the issue between Sullivan and Jake Roberts but nothing major as we see the Barbarian hit a running powerslam on one of the medics before Haku and Tonga both come off the ropes with flying headbutts for the 1….2…3! *COMMERCIAL* Jake Roberts defeated Tony Garea -Jake Roberts comes out and Kevin Sullivan does not join him. Vince and Jesse speculate on the issue as we just saw Sullivan with the Samoans. Roberts is able to handle Garea here and gets a nice DDT in for the victory. We then see Sullivan come out with the Samoans and they enter the ring with Roberts. Roberts then offers a hand to Sullivan and they shake as the Samoans turn their back to play to the crowd… just then Roberts turns Sullivan back around for a DDT! OH MY! DDT! The Samoans turn and Roberts flies out of the ring and back up the aisle! He has outsmarted the demonic Sullivan tonight! EVENT CENTER Mean Gene: Treachery is afoot here in the WWF, as we have seen some serious changing in attitudes over the past couple of weeks. I guess some people may not be on Santa’s nice list after all. It first started with Haku and Tonga aligning themselves with their “family” the Barbarian and going under the guise of Kevin Sullivan. With that action, we just saw Jake Roberts stick it to Sullivan and now he is on his own… we will hear from Roberts in just a moment. The one I am hoping to hear from is Brutus Beefcake as he just signed a contract with Jimmy Hart… what a snake in the grass… let’s go to words from Brutus after what he did last night to Tito Santana! Brutus Beefcake: Everyone wants to know why I did what I did… easy… it was for the money! For the last couple of weeks, I have been trying to get myself in the best position in the WWF and Jimmy Hart gave me the opportunity… he gave me the opportunity of a lifetime to join his Hart Foundation. Now you are looking at the cream of the crop in the WWF and Tito Santana… you were one of the first of many who are just going go down at our hands. HAHAHA! Jake Roberts: I guess the cat… or the snake is out of the bag if you will. You see I am not a man to come out and get cheered or booed. Hell I could care less what you think of me, but know this… you will respect me. Kevin Sullivan… you call yourself a master of evil well son you climbed up the wrong tree and the serpent jumped right out to give you a taste of your own medicine. There is no one in the world that can get up the DDT… trust me… go ahead… trust me! Mean Gene: I don’t know if anyone can trust Jake Roberts… that guy is a snake but you have to give him some credit on going it along. Speaking of going it alone… Nick Bockwinkel said that he would not have any interference against Hulk Hogan when he faced him next week in Madison Square Garden for the Heavyweight Championship of the World. He has called Hogan every name in the book and now it is time… for the Brawl to End it All next week… let’s hear from both competitors! Nick Bockwinkel: Oh Hulk or Hulk… where will you go? Perhaps you can go to barber school or even get a job as a janitor… because mark my words Hulk Hogan… in one week… under the bright lights of Madison Square Garden… your tenure in the WWF will be over. Your self proclaimed Title Run will be over. Hulk Hogan I am going to end your career next week… because I am not only going to end the match but I am going to put an end to you. I am going to hurt you Hogan. I am going to cripple you. I am going to make you beg and plead for me to stop… and I will not do it! I am going to break you down… piece by piece and do you so bad no one will want to touch you Hogan. No promoter in the world will sign the contract because you will be a physical liability. The time for Hulkamania has come but it is about to go… into the sunset… and with it… all the hopes and dreams of all your little Hulkamaniacs! Hulk Hogan: Well lemme tell you something Nick Bockwinkel… you have come out here and talked a lot of trash dude… but the fact of the matter is that when push comes to shove brother… I am going to be the one pushing and shoving you all over the ring dude. Like I have said… I know your list of accolades is a mile long. I know you have traveled and competed and been successful all over the world but brother… so have I. I have spread the word of Hulkamania to people from Chicago to New York to London to Paris to Moscow to Beijing to Tokyo to Sydney to Los Angeles and back again brother. There are millions of Hulkamaniacs all over the world and each of them is pulling for me. Each of them is gunning for me to take you and everything you stand for down Nick Bockwinkel. The thing about it is this dude… when it is all said and done and the blood, the sweat, and the tears are wiped away… it is going to me and you…. You lying on your back looking up to the big guy in the sky and me with the world title raised high in the air. Bockwinkel, I will put the arm down for your brother… I will give you that one last chance to see who you really are… and if you try to cross me dude… I will put the world’s biggest leg across your chest and crush you down into oblivion SO WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN HULKAMANIA RUNS WILD ON YOU!!!! *COMMERCIAL* Outlaw Ron Bass defeated Bob Bradley -Newcomer on the scene, the Outlaw Ron Bass! He handles Bradley with no problem here and then we get to see the Texas Gordbuster for the 1…2….3! The Outlaw looks like a rough and tough individual; we’ll see how he fares here in the WWF! *COMMERCIAL* MAIN EVENT Andre the Giant vs Hercules w/ Bobby Heenan -It is not often that we get to see Andre the Giant in action and tonight is something special. He handles Hercules here and gets a huge pop from the crowd. Jesse and Vince talk about how he is truly the 8th wonder of the world and someone who has been unstoppable for nearly 10 years. Hercules tries his best but there is just nothing he can do and before long we see Andre with a huge suplex and then an elbow drop for the 1…2…3! Andre works the crowd as we see Bundy and Studd come out to help Hercules. Andre is welcoming them in but then out of the crowd… it is the ONE MAN GANG! The Gang comes from behind and NAILS Andre! Jesse and Vince go nuts putting this over as the Heenan Family and the One Man Gang are attacking Andre! We then see Tony Atlas & The British Bulldogs run down to the ring to break things up! Andre is one angry giant though as he gets out of the ring and makes chase to the One Man Gang! These guys meet in MSG NEXT WEEK!

12/22 Boston, MA Big Fred Ottman defeated Masked Superstar via COUNT OUT! Hercules w/ Bobby Heenan defeated Tony Atlas – WHEN HE USED THE CHAIN! Roddy Piper & Bob Orton defeated Jimmy Snuka & Sgt. Slaughter TAG TEAM BATTLE ROYAL TO DETERMINE NUMBER ONE CONTENDER Big John Studd & King Kong Bundy defeated The British Bulldogs, The Hart Foundation, The Briscoe Brothers, The Funks, The Youngbloods, The Barbarian & Jake Roberts, The Killer Bees, Haku & Tonga, & Los Conquistadors! WWF TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage & Tito Santana w/ Elizabeth defeated Ivan & Nikita Koloff © via DQ when Krushev interfered! WWF INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Gino Hernandez © defeated Sgt. Slaughter WWF CHAMPIONSHIP Hulk Hogan © defeated the One Man Gang -After the match, Hogan was goaded into a confrontation with Nick Bockwinkel that ended up with Gang attacking Hogan and laying him out for Bockwinkel to really put the boots to him. The entire Heenan Family came out and tried to end Hogan and he was selling it like a champ! A slew of babyfaces ran out to stop the action but the harm was done. Bockwinkel got on the microphone to let everyone know that there would be only one champion in a week and that it would be him!

WWF Wrestling Challenge Gorilla Monsoon & Bobby The Brain Heenan in studio Matches from Allentown, PA – Agricultural Hall Terry & Dory Funk defeated Mark & Jay Youngblood -Terry and Dory are back as they have been cleared to wrestle by Bruno Sammartino. They are pure chaos in a bottle as Terry is willing to take the fight all over the ringside area. Dory is more polished in the ring but he shows his vicious side. In the end, it is Mark Youngblood who gets nailed with a SPIKE PILEDRIVER for the 1…2….3! We had an inset interview from the Briscos as they put over the big showdown next week in Madison Square Garden! *COMMERCIAL* David Sammartino defeated Johnny Rodz -The son of the father if you will… David continues to shine in his own special way here in the WWF. He continues to pile up the wins but just isn’t getting over with the fans enough. We see the big bear hug and then a slam on Rodz for the 1…2…3! What is this guy missing? *COMMERCIAL* One Man Gang defeated Pez Whatley & Terry Daniels -The big man, the One Man Gang is live and in color and he just hadles Pistol Pez and Terry Daniels with much ease. He stacks them up for double moves and then some big double slams. Then a big 747 on both men for the pinfall and the 1….2….3! He works the crowd as Gorilla and Bobby put over how we will hear from him next in the event center! EVENT CENTER Mean Gene: Welcome everyone to the WWF Event Center, I am Gene Okerlund and fans we are a mere eight days away from what many have considered to go down as the most important professional wrestling event of our era. The Brawl to End it All is what they are calling it and this will truly be an event of enormous magnitude. On the card, we will see some of the biggest matches including a battle of the giants… it is the One Man Gang taking on Andre the Giant. We know that the Gang has been financed by Nick Bockwinkel to take out Hulk Hogan but the Hulkster’s friend, Andre the Giant has been there to help him. Let’s hear from both men! One Man Gang: Lemme tell you something Big Man Andre… you call yourself a giant but you are going to be looking up at the lights when I get done with you. I have got a pair of 747 splashes ready to crash land on YOU! Andre The Giant: I am a man of few words… but One Man Gang you will see I am a man of action. I am the one true giant in professional wrestling and you are going to feel my wrath! Mean Gene: I am hoping that the ring is going to be specially reinforced for that contest. Along with that match, three title matches have been signed. We will see a first time match in Madison Square Garden as it will be a four-team elimination match! That’s right… four-teams will compete at once, anyone can be tagged in. This is going to be pure pandemonium as Haku and Tonga team up to take on the Killer Bees and the enormous team of Big John Studd and King Kong Bundy as they all try to defeat the champions… Ivan and Nikita Koloff! We will also see the unification of the sel-proclaimed Real World Championship and the Hulkster’s WWF Championship when Nick Bockwinkel and Hulk Hogan do battle. A special stipulation… the loser must leave the WWF for one full year! The other title match… this one could sell out anywhere in the country. It is said to be the final match between the two as Gino Hernandez defends his Intercontinental Championship against Randy Macho Man Savage. Hernandez will have Woman in his corner and Elizabeth will be in the corner of Randy Savage. Let’ s head from both men. Gino Hernandez: Time and time again I have proven to the world that I am the most elusive and exciting wrestler in the world. I have been in there with everyone. I am the man that men want to be and the man women want to be with and Savage… this title right here means I am the best in the world at this thing we call professional wrestling pal. You have lined up… you are in my sights and it is all over but the crying! Those tears are going to stream down your face when you see me with my hand raised high… Woman on my left and Elizabeth on my right! It will truly be your end Savage… and then they will be calling me the MACHO MAN! HAHAHA! Randy Savage: I am sick and tired of waiting. Hernandez… if you wanna do the thing, let’s do the thing right now. YEAH! I am ready. In the street. In the parking lot. In the park. In the forest. I don’t give a damn… I WANT YA! I AM COMING TO GET YA! You are going to find out what the Savage inside of me is like! DIG IT! *COMMERCIAL* MAIN EVENT Brutus Beefcake & Tito Santana vs The Hart Foundation w/ Jimmy Hart -Tito has to start this one by himself, as Brutus is nowhere to be found but Gorilla and Bobby do get footage that he was attacked by the Harts. We see them walking out of the locker room and him on the ground trying to recover. The match is a good one with Tito really bringing his working boots and putting together a fun little handicap contest. As the match breaks down, we see the moment that Tito needs to get the tag and the crowd erupts when Brutus Beefcake runs down to the ring. Tito goes to make the tag but Brutus CRACKS HIM RIGHT IN THE HEAD! The Hart’s pounce on Tito and they are hammering away at him! The referees come down to check it out and stop the action but Jimmy Hart is orchestrating it all right here! This is pure chaos!

Looks like Bierschwale is going to jump into All Japan. Be on the look out for his messages in regards to tours and such. I want to apologize about the touring things off the bat here... the resource I used only had the said tours on it... so I know with more tours it is a little bit more difficult to try and keep a hold of talent and such. In regards to the tours again... on the 1985 page... we will update it to keep everyone up to date as who is going to be touring with which company and when. Be on the lookout for that as we continue to update things around here heading into 1985!

I think it best for the project if we move into a different direction with All Japan. Thunderlips is no longer involved. If you have any ideas of people and want to reach out to them to possibly take over All Japan with our new rules, let me know and we can work on getting them set up.

Disregard this. We will look at alternatives to the way this works.

I will have a final decision on the future of All Japan in the coming days. There is no need for this to continue. Hate to have to take the stand but we've got to keep things going and all but one are buying in so we can sell it to someone else.

The problem with that is that the Japanese promotions aren't allowed to be in the fresh face draft. I have said this multiple times... we are not going to give up US talent to come over and be Japan exclusive. There are Japanese free agents and fresh faces. We will work out those details. It is simply part of the process. There are a ton of Japanese wrestlers who debut in 85 and 86. If we figure out a way for them to be part of it... we can add you guys in the draft but only allow you to pick from the Japanese talent. It seems to be that this game is really tilted towards the US promotions when it's time for a new rule or decision to be made. You are right. It has been tilted that way based off its foundation. Like I have said numerous times... we are ever changing. With this vote, you can see that it was voted to scrap. You have the option to follow that or not continue the game. I hate to throw it out there that way, but everyone is on board with you pming us and setting up different tours. You may be surprised as to who you get instead of going against what we have decided. So plain and simple... for everyone to read... There are NO SET GAIJIN TO TOUR OUTSIDE OF Hansen, Brody, Abdullah, and Mil. Any data from wrestling data or cage match is WHAT did happen... you now have full control over who comes over. Thunderlips, you need to do what Gordi did and communicate with everyone about the tours. I have said this a couple of times. We are not entitled to send you anyone... but everyone here has already said they would... you just need to talk to us. I am sorry for being so hard on this but I have said the same thing over and over. I haven't been able to physically be online and type. I didn't like the fact that decisions were made before I could even chime in on them. To me, that makes things seem sneaky, especially when I told you that I was having the surgery and couldn't be available. This isn't my first foray into booking territories and it won't be my last. That's why it was a vote. You decided to jump into booking Japan, I opened it up, and things moved forward. Everyone but you is on this train right now. As I said, go to your pms so we can get this figured out.

What are you hoping to get out of them? L Train and Stennick have been online. Communication. You ask a lot of questions it seems. Check your PM. We can have our communication there and perhaps answer some of my questions.

What are you hoping to get out of them? L Train and Stennick have been online.

The problem with that is that the Japanese promotions aren't allowed to be in the fresh face draft. I have said this multiple times... we are not going to give up US talent to come over and be Japan exclusive. There are Japanese free agents and fresh faces. We will work out those details. It is simply part of the process. There are a ton of Japanese wrestlers who debut in 85 and 86. If we figure out a way for them to be part of it... we can add you guys in the draft but only allow you to pick from the Japanese talent. It seems to be that this game is really tilted towards the US promotions when it's time for a new rule or decision to be made. You are right. It has been tilted that way based off its foundation. Like I have said numerous times... we are ever changing. With this vote, you can see that it was voted to scrap. You have the option to follow that or not continue the game. I hate to throw it out there that way, but everyone is on board with you pming us and setting up different tours. You may be surprised as to who you get instead of going against what we have decided. So plain and simple... for everyone to read... There are NO SET GAIJIN TO TOUR OUTSIDE OF Hansen, Brody, Abdullah, and Mil. Any data from wrestling data or cage match is WHAT did happen... you now have full control over who comes over. Thunderlips, you need to do what Gordi did and communicate with everyone about the tours. I have said this a couple of times. We are not entitled to send you anyone... but everyone here has already said they would... you just need to talk to us. I am sorry for being so hard on this but I have said the same thing over and over.

WWF on Tour 12/19 – 12/21 Providence, RI - Civic Center Bangor, ME – Auditorium Columbus, OH - Ohio Center The Killer Bees defeated Jake Roberts & Kevin Sullivan – Sullivan and Jake had some serious issues and Jake DDTs Sullivan! The Haku, Tonga, & The Barbarian defeated The Youngbloods & SD Jones Big Fred Ottman defeated Hercules King Kong Bundy & Big John Studd w/ Heenan defeated Tony Atlas & Sgt. Slaughter MAIN EVENT Hulk Hogan & Jimmy Snuka defeated Roddy Piper & Nick Bockwinkel w/ Bobby Heenan WWF on Tour 12/19 – 12/21 Elizabeth, NJ - Dunn Recreation Center Waterville, ME – Civic Center Wildwood, NJ - Convention Hall Jim Neidhart w/ Jimmy Hart defeated Brutus Beefcake Tito Santana defeated Bret Hart w/ Jimmy Hart TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP The Russians © defeated The British Bulldogs –With help from Kruschev Jack & Jerry Brisco vs Terry & Dory Funk went to a double DQ! MAIN EVENT INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage w/ Elizabeth defeated Gino Hernandez © w/ Woman via Count Out

I think this is something we could do as a whole group next year for like PWI. I say the whole year because we could put Nominations up throughout the year and then keep a running track of the big ones.

Consider Andre a freelancer, you just get to do the booking through the WWF like it was in real life.

That'd something you work out with him. I'd suggest pming each promotion and give us dates and people you'd like.

No... only Hansen, Brody, Abdullah, and Mascaras. You'll have to work out the rest of your gaijin to come tour. GordI did a great job of saying when his tours were and pming us to get the tours set. I'd recommend you follow that to supplement when the freelancers are set to come over.

Which in theory is great however you have guys like the Bulldogs who were WWF guys that went to AJPW while the others went to NJPW. Then you have the individuals who we have on our rosters who are touring talents who weren't initially with our promotions back in the 80s. I really think the best thing is what Gordi has done. Plain and simple. He has reached out to us and given us his touring schedule. If Thunderlips does that, he will get the same kind of response and we will give him the talent needed to make his tours special. When Bulldogs went to AJPW, they left the WWF. I understand, I just have a couple of other guys who would fall into that same type of thing. So as the WWF, I would have agreements with both AJPW and NJPW. I am more than willing to help them the best I can.

Which in theory is great however you have guys like the Bulldogs who were WWF guys that went to AJPW while the others went to NJPW. Then you have the individuals who we have on our rosters who are touring talents who weren't initially with our promotions back in the 80s. I really think the best thing is what Gordi has done. Plain and simple. He has reached out to us and given us his touring schedule. If Thunderlips does that, he will get the same kind of response and we will give him the talent needed to make his tours special.

Or maybe only get them for the tour and do a little draft type thing or something along those lines from tour to tour

Exactly. I will just need your guys help putting together those lists for the Japanese talent.

The problem with that is that the Japanese promotions aren't allowed to be in the fresh face draft. I have said this multiple times... we are not going to give up US talent to come over and be Japan exclusive. There are Japanese free agents and fresh faces. We will work out those details. It is simply part of the process. There are a ton of Japanese wrestlers who debut in 85 and 86. If we figure out a way for them to be part of it... we can add you guys in the draft but only allow you to pick from the Japanese talent.

I think there was still some discussion to be had regarding the freelancers... in January it will be Brody, Hansen, Abdullah, and Mil Mascaras. Andre goes to the WWF (even though he'll tour) and MACW got Funk. All Japan Stan Hansen 3/29/85 - 4/25/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 6/28/85 - 7/31/85 , 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85 Bruiser Brody 2/22/85 - 3/14/85 For New Japan Bruiser Brody 4/18 - 10/4-10/31, 11/15 - 12/11 These are now just details in which everyone can work out the other customizable parts. Thunderlips - I know you've been gone and this just kind of happened, but as long as you are, everyone is willing to work to make it out. I have guys already booked to New Japan and I plan on keeping a lot of the guys available for you for All Japan... just talk to us and we'll get it figured out.

Understand that the freelancers like Hansen will keep those predetermined dates. This change is for American promtions. You have complete control over your promotion and tours. You can keep them the same but now you work out deals to have Americans come over.

No problem. Get well and do work when you can.