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Just speaking for myself, I don't like writing about play by play and it's my last resort "I can't think of anything else but want to write about how great this is so here" and even then I like to keep it to the point. In general I like talking about why I liked or disliked something by giving a clear sense of why I did without giving away too much as that's something I would dislike to find in reviews if I were reading them myself. As far as other people's reviews, in general I loathe anything long as most people's match analysis just aren't that interesting to me to spend so much time on reading them. I like a couple of good sentences that give me a strong idea of what someone's view of the match is. You can always go into more detail if someone disagrees. For the questions: 1. When you read reviews, do you read the whole thing or just the final paragraph and the rating? Depends on how much I care about a match. If they're Parv-style (which is what you're obviously asking about) mostly just the final paragraph and the rating unless it's a match I would really go bat far. 2. If I lost the middle section of mine, would you miss them at all? No 4. Who's reviews do you like reading? Why? What do they do well? Man all my favourite reviews are gone from the internet now. Daniel of puroresu.tv and DVDVR influenced my style the most. Wayback machine should have some of that stuff. I also love DEAN's reviews but for completely different reasons, as his personality makes a format I generally dislike not just bearable but super fun. I enjoy Segunda Caida reviews as well for similar reasons.

Jun Kasai http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/25941-mens-teoh-jun-kasai-jaki-numazawa-vs-takashi-sasaki-abdullah-kobayashi-badboy-hido-bjpw-112706/?hl=%2Bjun+%2Bkasai http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/21816-yoshihito-sasaki-abdullah-kobayashi-shadow-wx-masada-vs-mens-teoh-jun-kasai-jaki-numazawa-yuko-miyamoto-bjpw-010207/?hl=%2Bjun+%2Bkasai http://wrestlingwithwords.com/the-review-stands-alone-masashi-takeda-vs-jun-kasai-freedoms-122515/ Ryuji Ito http://www.puroresucentral.com/CompReview-ItoKingHardcore.html Abdullah Kobayashi http://prowresblog.blogspot.hr/2012/10/bjw-flaming-boards-barb-wire-shadow-wx.html http://prowresblog.blogspot.hr/2012/11/bjw-10292012-construction-site.html http://prowresblog.blogspot.hr/2012/10/bjw-552012-light-tubes-abdullah.html

Someone tell me more about him, I watched random trios matches via dataincash and he ruled just punching dudes in the face.

Well this is my most ambitious post so hopefully I don't botch everything. It's been thrown around a lot that Ohtani's post-New Japan work has been disappointing and mediocre, and some have even went so far that they've called it actively bad. That is something that I vehemently disagree with. I wanted to do a Matt-D esque write up of all of his strenghts and why he connects with me so much as a worker but that will have to wait as I also wanted to recommend the best post-NewJa Ohtani and realised what would be the way do to so that would be consistent with my argument. I could've just pointed to ten matches and said "this is the best of Ohtani in this time fram. watch it". And they would've all been really, really good matches, some even great, some excellent. But that would completely miss the point of who Ohtani was as a worker in that time period. And, let's face it-it is also a very long run-twice as long as his much more pimped junior run. Pointing to such a small smapling could also alienate people because they could think "well, if this is the best he could do in such a long time frame then it must've not been special at all". To me the case of post-NewJa Ohtani lies in great performances in versatility and not long singles matches. Proving Ohtani's greatness by creating a huge list would've been a pain in the ass if I didn't love him as much as I do. If anything my efforts to create such a list infuriated me because so much ZERO-1 had disappeared into the ether. But I wasn't going to spend six months on it in an effort to include everything. Behold, my mega list of recommended post-NewJa Ohtani matches: I bolded the best stuff(well I tried anyway. there's a lot of stuff in here). I didn't include anything I didn't enjoy. Some matches are there more for Ohtani's performance than anything (2-3 tops, the Wrestle Kingdom 7(2013) tag would be the best example of this). The (last on the list) Minoru Tanaka match is above average but I wouldn't have included if I didn't love the storyline surrounding it. Anyway. Ohtani vs rookies and undercard wrestlers rules. Ohtani as an invader rules. Ohtani defending his home turf rules. Ohtani in big brawls rules. Ohtani in faux deathmatches rules. Ohtani in inexplicably great fatal four aways I had no idea existed rules. You get the running theme. Tomorrow I will edit this post and add a part where I'll pair matches with mentioned match types and add some not aforementioned as well. Good night.

Yoshihito Sasaki http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/29523-daisuke-sekimoto/?hl=%2Byoshihito+%2Bsasaki

That's a great point I made in a fb conversation a few days ago, you don't think of a guy like Kodo Fuyuki as a great Hashimoto opponent but he totally is one.

I think Sekimoto can be a good tool when he's not going overboard with modern puro tropes but I've never thought he was close to being the best worker in BJW alone.

More songs about things that didn't actually happen.The version I saw had Vampiro as Hannibal Lector opening show, and 3 marks fleeced and presumably killed at the end. Maybe you saw a different version. Can it be considered a murder when it was his imagination? Ditto.

More songs about things that didn't actually happen.

I don't see what match structure has to do with it really. It isn't a matter of how much ring time a guy gets or what the focus of the match is. But to that point-Jumbo never feels like a great obstacle to overcome like Misawa did and his comebacks aren't nearly as engaging to me.

Well that is a peculiar way of comprehending presence and definitely not what I was talking about.

1985-1992 doesn't really feel like a complete run for Jumbo since he is a completely different wrestler in 1985 than he is in 1992. I don't have time to back it up with a bunch of reviews and a huge list right now but I'm pretty sure Jumbo took a big leap in 1988 and would have 1989-1992 as his true "peak". It's almost ridiculous how little presence he has in the Choshu tags compared to the Misawa feud.

My problem with Tenryu isn't his sloppiness, I see that as part of his appeal, it's that he'll often go for moves he can't come close to hitting clean in crucial points in the match, you're hoping he'd Lariat someone into oblivion but instead he just does some weird Abisengiri and it will disturb the flow of the match. Mind you I still have him in my top five but that is a difference maker when I'm looking at #1 candidates.

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Which Japanese wrestler will you rank highest? Shiyna Hashimoto. I'm still finishing my Ohtani thing so I doubt I'll have enough time to make a gigantic case for Hashimoto but I don't think there's any single criteria which would "disqualify" him from ranking #1. I mean I get that most folks just don't like him as much as I do but getting that he is a perfectly fine choice for that spot acknowledged would be progress by itself. I think. Maybe. Which Japanese wrestlers do you expect to make your list? I don't have time for this. Who was the best of the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s to come out of Japan? 70s are tough because of the reliance on foreigners. But If I'm going to be smartass and count 1980 (hint-I will) I'll just say Fujinami. I liked him a lot more than anyone else when we did the Before The 80s project and with no foreigners.....fuck it. Fujinami it is. 80s go to Fujiwara 90s Hashimoto 2000s go to Akiyama 2010s to Akiyama again Who was your favorite Ace? Hashimoto Who was your favorite top challenger? I have Kawada above Akiyama and Fujinami right now. Who was your favorite under the radar guy? Yoji Anjoh. Who was the best at their peak? Takada is in my #1 and #2 matches ever so while I could see maybe giving him the edge talking strictly about absolute peak performances/matches Hashimoto smokes him as an all around peak performer. Who has disappointed you the most? Probably Jumbo. Not big on him in the 80s.

I love old man Choshu but old man Choshu is no old man Fujiwara (nor is Fujinami for that matter). I can watch them but I really don't see why I'd be disappointed with them since the magic was gone by 1992 anyway (I still thought it was a quite good match though). There is a bunch of fun 2000s Choshu to fall back on even if those matches end up sucking (which I really doubt will be my opinion on them). edit: I just watched Riki Choshu vs Tatsumi Fujinami-LEGEND 30.9.2011. which I thought was a very fun match smartly built around their signature spots. Not sure what more you could ask for given their age.

Choshu has made his way into my top ten. No matter how much I like a wrestler, and no matter what wrestler is in question there comes a time where I find myself disappointed either in a wrestler's performance or match in some way and Choshu is the sole exception I can think of. Even if I don't think a Choshu match was any good (like the Mutoh 92 match) he'll still do enough cool stuff in it to make it worthwhile. I don't think he has any apparent except not being a master of doing broadways but that is something I just don't care about. I see folks criticising something like him using a backdrop counter to a headlock and talking about how the other guy has to "feed him" in an overly contrived way (paraphrasing)........I mean the headlock is such a basic pro wrestling spot that I don't see why organically setting up that spot would be an issue, if anything it adds both meaning and threat to the move and allows him to play it up on special occasions. And though execution isn't something I usually gush over the way Choshu makes EVERYTHING look devastating, from his Lariats, throws or just basic stomps (seriously who has better stomps than Choshu?) anything he does looks like a million bucks.

Imploring Phil to check out the Aoki match because I don't see how a fifteen minute Fujiwara singles match doesn't end up being a 2016 Segunda Caida MOTYC. Link: http://rutube.ru/video/1c6bb5a6de11c207494075e53d4bd789/

This was wrestled under "HARD HIT Graplling Rules". I enjoyed the opening, I think it established well that Aoki coud be a threat to Fujiwara despite him not matching him in matwork skill due to his advantage in speed and just generally not being 66 years old. Then Fujiwara starts trolling Aoki and the match completely disintegrates (in the sense of them following the rules) and they just start headbutting the shit out of each other. Then they decide that wasn't ridiculous enough and start shoot headbutting the ringpost and just doing whatever the hell comes to their minds. Once they've filled enough time with bizarre stuff to ensure Fujiwara wouldn't get blown up they go back to doing neat matwork and the match with a really well set up submission. Not something that I'd recommend to someone not familiar with either for them but it's great fanservice if you're a fan already.

If it's 1981-1990 (as it should be) I'd chose Fujiwara as he was the best worker in what I think is the best wresting style ever which is enough to compensate him not having much stuff on tape early on.

Completely missing my point. One of Loss' points about PWO was that he wanted it to attract as many different viewpoints and opinions and your attitude seems like a very poisonous one for a board aiming to achieve that. If you, supposedly a professor, actually bothered to read my posts properly instead of taking things out of context to fit you agenda then you wouldn't have come to this conclusion. Look, it's right here: Let's break it down once again: Flair and Jumbo are mostly peak candidates as is Fujinami. Fujinami's peak has been covered in several projects (both the before the 80s japan and the DVDVR 80s set). How is he any different of a candidate? Failing to see something so outrageous about this opinion that would call for your ridiculous phrasing. You can bring that up once you stop making references to all the fifty year old art you like. Want me to replace One Punch Man with Camus so you can follow?

Didn't expect you to be above taking things out of context because you had no proper reply.

But why would Fujinami be a guy for whom you'd need to make a case anyway unlike the aforementioned grapplers? His peak has been analyzed and covered in depth already. Seems pretty different than just asking someone to elaborate because the notion of ranking him that highly intrigues you.

So one can have an opinion that differs from your cannon unles they scrutinize the 50 Jumbo/Flair matches you gave four stars, break them down in five paragraph reviews and then do the same for every "other wrestler" match they thought was great? Fujinami as "best worker of the 1980s" and even "best wrestler ever" aren't new ideas.

It's not even a work/shoot thing but modern mma and UFC have a completely different internal logic than shoot style.