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The watch party was so good. I think I said at the time, he's the best wrestler that people don't think of as a great.

Hi, 2016 Jeff Jarrett high voter here. I'm not sure where I'll be placing Jarrett this time, though he's absolutely a lock for my list. Last time I had him at 44, which feels really high in hindsight, and there's a bunch of new discoveries who I'll probably place above him, but then I think about my old list, and there's also a bunch of guys I placed above him who I'm not sure I'd still do that with now. I'm not convinced I'd have Davey Boy Smith, Christian or Curt Henning, for example, higher than him. JJ is a guy who's always good value to watch. He's comfortably the best squash match worker in 1994 WWF, and his TV matches are always good. Really giving as an obnoxious heel, not afraid to stooge to make his opponent look better, and as a babyface he's got tremendous fire and times his comebacks excellently. I also maintain that he gave both Shawn Michaels and Kurt Angle their career best matches.

I started listening to the Cornette tribute pod, and quickly realised I was going to have to pace myself with it or I'll be a big sobbing mess in no time. I'm going to finish it, because I've heard it's got a bunch of fun stories in it, but the opening 10 minutes were Cornette like I've never heard him before, and it was incredibly visceral and sad. I felt so bad for him.

Yeah, even if you don't ever plan on using (for example) Mercedes Martinez on the main roster, your freshly trained new wrestlers will need a player-coach to guide them through their initial matches. Same reason I thought Chris Hero being released felt odd.

It's the kind of thing that might have been effective years ago, but in 2021 where you can go on social media and see Allie Katch is generally quite likably goofy in real life, it doesn't work. It feels less like "Allie Katch is a dangerous psycho" and more "Oh, they've worked this silly angle, that kinda puts me off watching it".

Absolute hero, thank you

Gutted that I missed this Watch Party. Is this playlist available on YouTube or am I best off looking up the match individually? No surprise Meiko and Pete had good chemistry, they matched up a few times in the UK in that time frame, and I know Dunne is a huge Meiko fan.

Two of the best pure babyfaces of all time. Neither of them are guys who you should consider turning heel (even though Rey was surprisingly competent at it). Who've you got higher?

So, I was thinking about this during the watch party on Saturday, two guys who came up on the indys at the same time, formed a formidable tag team, then both went to the WWE with differing levels of success. I think they're an interesting comparison.

That HIAC match is one I went into with minimal expectations, but it ended up being bizarrely great. That moment where Orton went after Hardy's ear lopes with a screwdriver was more memorable than the last 3 years of HIAC combined

Agree with the above sentiments. I don't think I'll be voting Chris Adams, but I do like him. Rollins was fine as part of the Shield, but I've not enjoyed him as a singles worker.

Two big Celtic heavyweights with similar length careers. Both former WWE champions. McIntyre has a credible indy run in his favour, but Sheamus didn't spend time as a comedy job guy. Who you got?

Agree that the Von Erichs/Shield comparison is tight, but I'd say that even within that, Reigns is more pivotal to the Shield than Kerry is to the von Erichs. I've been rewatching the original Shield run, and by mid 2013 Reigns is looking comfortably the best of the trio. Better offense, better presence, he's even a remarkably good seller for the monster of the group. Also, whereas the Shield run feels like the career highpoint for both Rollins and Ambrose, Reigns went on to do better work as a solo. I'm not even convinced Kerry was as good a worker as Kevin within the von Erichs.

I think the word was that Bray asked for time off due to some mental health issues, hence the loss at Mania and subsequently being AWOL

I've been watching wrestling since 1992, started exploring the indies and puro/lucha in 2001, yet somehow today was the first time I'd seen Dump wrestle, and I'm immediately full of regret for not getting there earlier. Absolute chaos, she came across as the most diabolical human in wrestling. Her stabbing Yukari Omori was more of a "What the fuck!" moment than most deathmatches I've seen. Loved her team with Nakano, and loved the fact that she wasn't just smoke and mirrors. When she got down to business, she was clearly capable of having very good matches. Stabbing someone in the leg with a pair of scissors to break a figure four is pure pro wrestling.

Very much looking forward to Piper and Eva Marie winning the tag titles, with Eva pinning Natalya after Piper does all the work.

I watched this for the first time the other day, and it blew my mind, two absolute psychopaths. Watching that, I'd rather have to fight 95% of modern day indie workers of any gender than either Bull or Aja.

I loved the Havoc 91 2/3 falls match against Luger last time I saw it, remember thinking that Simmons looked great in it and Lex played cowardly heel really well.

The best was when someone referenced Wikipedia, and Dusty said that he and Murdoch used to party there in the 70s.

This is a battle of my current #1 vs current #2, and I can see my opinion wavering several times before 2026. At the moment, I'm pumping for Bret. But only just

Another value of nominating someone like Serena Deeb, who might not look like an outright contender, is that there might be someone out there who'd not even thought about her, sees her thread, and goes "Oh yeah, Serena Deeb, she's great. She's got a shot for my list". Anything that drives discussion is a good thing in my eyes. Personally, I think she's got no chance of making my list, but she's worthy of discussion.

Pedro Morales It was highlighted in tonight's watch party that Pedro doesn't have a nomination, which is nuts when you consider we have a bunch of fun 80s Pedro performances, especially because Baron Mikel Scicluna is nominated, and he was never fun. I don't know how much footage there is of him in his prime, but his 80s stuff and his status as a former WWF champion suggests he's worth investigating. 80s Pedro is still great as a fired-up babyface, his comebacks are amazingly fun and his backbreaker gets huge height, look great. W/ Davey Boy Smith & Danny Spivey vs Beefcake, Valentine & Valiant (WWF Prime Time 16/6/86) Vs Barry O (WWF Prime Time 7/7/86) Vs The Iron Sheik (WWF Prime Time 23/6/86)

I need to watch some more Colony stuff, but as OC he'd be pretty far from my list. It's my least favourite kind of comedy gimmick, the kind that requires the opponent to make themselves look stupid in order to get the gag over. He's capable enough, but the pool of wrestlers to trim to 100 is already big enough without him

Rey was my #3 last time, and I think he could end up anywhere in my top 10. Even #1, I think he's that good. There's definitely an argument for Rey as the best TV worker ever, he's someone able to totally maximise his window no matter how long and against who, and he's also got to be in the running for best ever babyface. He's not a natural heel, but there were definitely times where unmasked Mysterio worked well as an irritating prick heel in WCW. He's got longevity on his side, even if he's not reaching the consistent heights nowadays. He's got 25 years of goodness under his belt

The only locks for my top 10 as it stands are Bret, Mysterio, Bryan, Santo and Liger. Casas, Hansen and Regal would be knocking at the door too.