NotJayTabb

Agree that the Von Erichs/Shield comparison is tight, but I'd say that even within that, Reigns is more pivotal to the Shield than Kerry is to the von Erichs. I've been rewatching the original Shield run, and by mid 2013 Reigns is looking comfortably the best of the trio. Better offense, better presence, he's even a remarkably good seller for the monster of the group. Also, whereas the Shield run feels like the career highpoint for both Rollins and Ambrose, Reigns went on to do better work as a solo. I'm not even convinced Kerry was as good a worker as Kevin within the von Erichs.

I think the word was that Bray asked for time off due to some mental health issues, hence the loss at Mania and subsequently being AWOL

I've been watching wrestling since 1992, started exploring the indies and puro/lucha in 2001, yet somehow today was the first time I'd seen Dump wrestle, and I'm immediately full of regret for not getting there earlier. Absolute chaos, she came across as the most diabolical human in wrestling. Her stabbing Yukari Omori was more of a "What the fuck!" moment than most deathmatches I've seen. Loved her team with Nakano, and loved the fact that she wasn't just smoke and mirrors. When she got down to business, she was clearly capable of having very good matches. Stabbing someone in the leg with a pair of scissors to break a figure four is pure pro wrestling.

Very much looking forward to Piper and Eva Marie winning the tag titles, with Eva pinning Natalya after Piper does all the work.

I watched this for the first time the other day, and it blew my mind, two absolute psychopaths. Watching that, I'd rather have to fight 95% of modern day indie workers of any gender than either Bull or Aja.

I loved the Havoc 91 2/3 falls match against Luger last time I saw it, remember thinking that Simmons looked great in it and Lex played cowardly heel really well.

The best was when someone referenced Wikipedia, and Dusty said that he and Murdoch used to party there in the 70s.

This is a battle of my current #1 vs current #2, and I can see my opinion wavering several times before 2026. At the moment, I'm pumping for Bret. But only just

Another value of nominating someone like Serena Deeb, who might not look like an outright contender, is that there might be someone out there who'd not even thought about her, sees her thread, and goes "Oh yeah, Serena Deeb, she's great. She's got a shot for my list". Anything that drives discussion is a good thing in my eyes. Personally, I think she's got no chance of making my list, but she's worthy of discussion.

Pedro Morales It was highlighted in tonight's watch party that Pedro doesn't have a nomination, which is nuts when you consider we have a bunch of fun 80s Pedro performances, especially because Baron Mikel Scicluna is nominated, and he was never fun. I don't know how much footage there is of him in his prime, but his 80s stuff and his status as a former WWF champion suggests he's worth investigating. 80s Pedro is still great as a fired-up babyface, his comebacks are amazingly fun and his backbreaker gets huge height, look great. W/ Davey Boy Smith & Danny Spivey vs Beefcake, Valentine & Valiant (WWF Prime Time 16/6/86) Vs Barry O (WWF Prime Time 7/7/86) Vs The Iron Sheik (WWF Prime Time 23/6/86)

I need to watch some more Colony stuff, but as OC he'd be pretty far from my list. It's my least favourite kind of comedy gimmick, the kind that requires the opponent to make themselves look stupid in order to get the gag over. He's capable enough, but the pool of wrestlers to trim to 100 is already big enough without him

Rey was my #3 last time, and I think he could end up anywhere in my top 10. Even #1, I think he's that good. There's definitely an argument for Rey as the best TV worker ever, he's someone able to totally maximise his window no matter how long and against who, and he's also got to be in the running for best ever babyface. He's not a natural heel, but there were definitely times where unmasked Mysterio worked well as an irritating prick heel in WCW. He's got longevity on his side, even if he's not reaching the consistent heights nowadays. He's got 25 years of goodness under his belt

The only locks for my top 10 as it stands are Bret, Mysterio, Bryan, Santo and Liger. Casas, Hansen and Regal would be knocking at the door too.

Right now, it's Iron Mike Sharpe. It feels like the perfect spot for him.

I went insanely high on Kevin in 2016, think he was like #23 which is really high in hindsight. He's still comfortably a lock for my top 100, he's very much my favourite von Erich. He's not the biggest guy, but he's all action, he's a really believable fighter. He's really fun in brawls, I love the Badstreet match where he takes an uncharacteristic retreat, only because he wants to take his boot off and put it on his fist as a weapon. Probably going to end up in my #50-#75 slots.

In 2016, Santo and Casas were the main reason I took a deeper dive in lucha, because they were so obviously great they had to be on my list, but the idea that my list would be suggesting there were only 2 good luchadors felt ridiculous, so it inspired me to take a longer look. Satomura is the same for me in 2026 with joshi. All the Satomura I've seen - which I imagine is only scratching the surface - has convinced me she's a lock for my list, but to have her and possibly Asuka as the only joshi workers on my list would suggest the only good joshi workers were in the WWE, which is patently absurd. So she's been the catalyst for at least one aspect of my viewing this time around. I'd also think she's a wrestler with an incredible aura when you see her live. Considering she's not a very big lady, she absolutely controls a room and feels like a big deal. This isn't going to be a key factor in my voting, but it could be a tiebreaker, the ability to feel bigger than your surroundings.

So Ishikawa was a bit of a blind spot for me before tonight's watch party, but he's someone who I'm very much going to investigate further. With all apologies to Solo Darling, Ishikawa feels like the real limb reaper, loved the way he weathered the storm in the Murakami and Kana matches, waiting for the perfect moment to grab a body part and hook them. As I said in the Jaguar Yokota thread, I can't say a definite top 100 just off a 2hr selection of matches, but if he's got more like this in his locker, he feels like a shoe-in

I was the Ernie Ladd high vote in 2016, I had him somewhere in my top 50, which is way high in hindsight. He'll probably still make my 100 though, he's someone I always like when he turns up, and he's someone who was very clever at working to his strengths, using his large frame to ensure he's always near the ropes of he needs it to escape or to cheat. Maybe the best legdrop in wrestling. Great in ring charisma too, he'd absolutely draw you in just through his mannerisms

Drew McIntyre Feels like someone worthy of discussion. Has been good at the very least since The Chosen One days, working in a smart, calculating heel manner. Was decent at comedy in his 3MB nadir, then totally revived his career on the indies, working well in PWG and Evolve, looking good in UK indies like ICW and WCPW and being one of the best things in TNA during his run. Came back to WWE and has been one of the highlights of the Covid era, he felt like a real main event star. He's shown he can work well with wrestlers his size and those considerably smaller, and he's going to be given 5 more years of big matches to add to his candidacy. Matches Vs Andrade NXT Takeover Wargames 17 Vs Roman Reigns Survivor Series 20 Vs Sheamus Fastlane 21

I'm kinda surprised he wasn't nominated last time. I'm not voting for him, but I think he's someone who's better than his reputation. He's rarely outright bad in a match, you don't see him messing things up or blowing spots. His offence looks fine and he's had a few fun tag runs with Bryan and the Hurricane. He's just not particularly interesting, but he's been solid enough for years.

I've been watching a few more Martinez matches following the watch party, and one thing she has in her favour is that, by being a long time indy vet who was never really tied to one promotion, you get to see her in a lot of different circumstances against all sorts of wrestlers. In a way, it's a lot like Eddie Kingston, in that you can type her name into the IWTV search bar and get loads of matches that just sound fascinating. I watched her wrestle 19yr old rookie Candy Floss and 49yr old exotico legend Cassandro back-to-back, both great matches and bough fought differently. The Cassandro match had one moment where he hit the ropes and ringpost on a dive attempt, and like a pro Martinez grabbed a choke while clearly checking he was ok, then left him on the floor for a countout to give him time to recover. Just quick thinking to protect her opponent and keep the match flowing realistically. At this point I'm all in on her being great, top 100 isn't out of the running.

I should highlight, I'm not counting the SHLAK match against him, it's just a strange anomaly at the end of his career. I just think it's a shame that it's the final in ring image we have of a guy who was such a force in his prime

I had Necro in the 60-70 slots last time. I think he'll drop a bit this time, but I still think he'll be in my list. His rep has taken a bit of a hit in the last 5 years, partly due to his bad politics and partly due to that SHLAK match where he looked like a mummified corpse, but prime Necro had an aura like few others. I think his work has stood up better than a lot of 00s indie workers, his brawling still looks great, his selling is still surprisingly sympathetic, and his ability to turn his strengths to both deathmatch and non-deathmatch bouts gives him a bit of range.

DiBiase is a guy who I like well enough, but I don't see him getting onto my list. He reminds me of Terry Taylor (who did make my list in 2016, but is unlikely to in 2026), in that he's always solid, but never blows me away. Even when I watch Mid-South, which I haven't watched extensively but am working my way through, I get more excited by a Paul Orndorff match than I do DiBiase. I'm still working through Mid-South, so I'm not 100% ruling him out, but he's unlikely for me.

Tyler Bate is someone I've been a fan of since the very first time I saw him. It was a tag match in a WMC in Coventry, teaming with Chris Brookes against The Henchmen. Bate was 16 and nowhere near as muscular as he is now, but he played a great face in peril before hitting a superb spot that was unforgettable, hitting a German suplex on the 350+lb Jim Diehard. What made it great was the execution - it wasn't a suplex where you can see the opponent do the work. Instead, Tyler got him in a rear waistlock and motioned for the suplex, which got a bunch of titters from the crowd. After all, here was this normal sized kid trying to lift a huge, huge man. Then suddenly, Diehard's feet slowly left the ground as Bate deadlifted him, all freaky core strength. The crowd rightly popped huge, just a good spot made great by the execution. As for his candidacy, he's got a reasonable shout. He's been at worst good for 8 years now, is still in his early 20s, and is both helped and hurt by being in NXT UK. Hurt because not many people watch the show, but helped because it's a show that'll give him plenty of chances to stretch his legs in the next 5 years, he's a featured wrestler who'll be on every Takeover and get a bunch of good 10-15 minute TV main events. I'm certainly not discounting him.