El Dragon

EDIT: Yay wrong thread!

I'm very curious that once one of the Eaton, Morton, Anderson, Windham, & Rhodes group goes, the others will fall directly afterwards. I'm very curious at this point how those 5 will rank in comparison to one another.

Assuming they actually taped the match (which signs point to) I LOVE this move, because it helps make NXT house shows feel like a must attend event, as if they were not already. Strong play.

While I wish he could have been higher, I have zero qualms about being the high vote on Tajiri.

So far my hits from the top 100. 29. Cesaro-87 47. Sami Zayn- 88 48. Shinsuke Nakamura- 94 59. Virus- 99 64. L. A. Park 66. Ron Garvin- 90 79. The Undertaker- 84 81. 2 Cold Scorpio- 91 That leaves me at only 6 of my top 50 off the board (Christian at 39, Satomura at 46, and Waltman at 49), so apparently I'm much more of a conformist then I realized.

I'll defend that run of time when Aries became the face of TNA as being a quality year for the company. That was also including the Bobby Roode title run, which was pretty wonderfully done, and Aries rise was the perfect end there. But then Aries turned heel to lose to Jeff Hardy, and that was kinda that. Still though, I'd suggest if you ever want to see TNA at it's best in the last decade, that was the stretch to check out. I actually bought the Pay Per View Aries won the title on, and I don't regret the purchase a bit.

I'm mixed on the matter. I think Benoits brain was pretty fucked, but I know nothing of the person he was to begin with. Hard to tell if it was a shock that he made this jump. I did vote for him though. I tried to block all personal blocks with wrestlers out of the equation, as it would have led to a significantly different ballot.

"See these things I don't like? I'm just gonna keep shouting about them while totally ignoring anything you say to prove how right I am" If you look back on my posts I've said nothing of the sort. No, you've said nothing of note in this entire thread other then taking shots at the low points of a guy and ignoring the high points, and make the same "Wrestlemania Moment" joke 5 times. Yes, we get it, Taker had some shitty matches, usually with some pretty shitty opponents. Consistency is also not one of his strengths, and that's fair. But he's had 20 years of work were he has, the vast majority of the time, been at least "Good" and often times took the jump to great when given the opportunity in a lot of voters eyes.

"See these things I don't like? I'm just gonna keep shouting about them while totally ignoring anything you say to prove how right I am"

vs Jeff Hardy - Raw July 2002 (Ladder match) vs Angle vs Rock - Vengeance 2002 vs Brock Lesnar - No Mercy 2002 (HIAC) vs John Cena - Vengeance 2003 vs Kurt Angle - SD September 2003 w/ Angle vs Brock/Cena - SD October 2003 vs Vince - Survivor Series 2003 (Buried Alive) vs John Cena - SD June 2004 vs Randy Orton - WM21 vs Randy Orton - SD September 2005 vs Mark Henry - SD Feb 2006 vs Kurt Angle - NWO 2006 vs Big Show - ECW July 2006 vs Khali - SD August 2006 w/ Dave vs Shawn/Cena - NWO 2007 vs Finlay - March 2007 vs Batista - WM23 vs Batista - Backlash 2007 vs Batista - SD 2007 (Cage) vs Batista - Cyber Sunday 2007 vs Batista - Survivor Series 2007 (HIAC) vs Edge - WM24 vs Festus - SD April 2008 vs Edge - ONS 2008 (TLC) vs Edge - Summerslam 2008 (HIAC) vs Big Show - No Mercy 2008 vs Jeff Hardy - SD November 2008 vs Shelton - SD January 2009 vs Show vs Hunter vs Kozlov - SD Feb 2009 vs Shawn - WM25 vs Rey - Rumble 2010 vs Shawn - WM26 vs Hunter - WM27 vs Hunter - WM28 vs Punk - WM29 vs Brock - Summerslam 2015 I included as much stuff as I could think of because I even when people say "oh he has one good match a year" I think that's bullshit until he was literally only working one match per year, there's a lot of good stuff, a lot of good TV matches during the time when he was working full time. Woah this escalated as I was typing. All praise to you for mentioning the Taker/Shelton match. They fought each other a few times in that stretch and I enjoyed the fuck out of that series. Shelton's gold standard run was pretty underrated.

I'm still incredibly confused how Taker is the one people are pointing there finger at in shame instead of say, Kurt Angle. Just confusing to me I guess.

Personally, just thrilled Joe, Tajiri, and Zayn hot in.

My list of guys on the outs 46. Meiko Satomura- 130 ... 53. Big Show- 203 54. Austin Aries- 176 55. Matt Hardy- 154 ... 57. Roderick Strong- 236 ... 60. Yoshinori Ogawa- 184 ... 65. Homicide- 269 ... 67. Butch Reed- 136 68. Luke Harper- 300 69. El Mesias- 293 70. Paul London- 298 71. Yoshihiro Takayama- 123 72. Kana- 244 73. Tsuyoshi Kikuchi- 148 ... 75. Jerry Blackwell- 118 ... 77. Mark Henry- 156 ... 84. Jamie Noble- 290 ... 86. Nigel McGuinness- 210 87. Masaaki Mochizuki- 194 88. Triple H-120 89. Psicosis- 183 ... 92. Jimmy Rave- 338 93. Jimmy Jacobs- 353 94. Magnum T.A.- 181 95. John Morrison- 419 96. Batista- 241 97. Jeff Hardy- 178 98. Eddie Kingston- 311 99. Kevin Steen- 177 100. YAMATO- 331 So, 70 still left for me, and almost the entirely of my top half.

Only one on that list on my listing was Blackwell, who I had at 75 and was keeping my fingers crossed would stick around into the top 100. I've been up front with me voting for Trips in a low spot, and I'll also mention out of the people are whining about potentially making the top 100, I have Undertaker and Foley on my list as well. I really enjoyed Undertakers last few years of regular competition on Smackdown, as well as most of his Biker Taker run. Roughly a 5 year stretch when he was someone I would actively seek out his work, maybe longer. If that's not a long enough stretch to have on a ballot, sue me. I still think the most frustrating name left is the Rock. He had about 5 years as a regular wrestler, and was never an elite one in that time. With HHH you can at least point out time frame someone could have enjoyed him a good deal if your preferences pointed that way. I just don't see that much of an argument for The Rock. Shout out to the "Mid 2000's Indy Guys" still hanging around in Joe, Low-Ki, Zayn, Hero, and Cesaro. Also Punk and Bryan, but they kinda put themselves on a different scale.

Sad to report I lost my first top 50 with Satomura. Also, as I previously stated, had Trips at 88. Sp yeah. Personally, The Rock potentially making the top 100 to me is easily the most curious. Not a long career, not a particularly large number of great matches. Also, I'm gonna get a high vote some day.

All the names dropped on my list so far. 53. Big Show- 203 54. Austin Aries- 176 55. Matt Hardy- 154 57. Roderick Strong- 236 60. Yoshinori Ogawa- 184 65. Homicide- 269 67. Butch Reed- 136 68. Luke Harper- 300 69. El Mesias- 293 70. Paul London- 298 72. Kana- 244 73. Tsuyoshi Kikuchi- 148 77. Mark Henry- 156 84. Jamie Noble- 290 86. Nigel McGuinness- 210 87. Masaaki Mochizuki- 194 89. Psicosis- 183 92. Jimmy Rave- 338 93. Jimmy Jacobs- 353 94. Magnum T.A.- 181 95. John Morrison- 419 96. Batista- 241 97. Jeff Hardy- 178 98. Eddie Kingston- 311 99. Kevin Steen- 177 100. YAMATO- 331 I will also fess to having Triple H on my ballot, though in the bottom 15. Bring the hate.

I am very surprised none of my top 52 are gone yet.

I find the "Ugh, can you believe this guy from current times got votes" when a couple months ago there were posts of "Even if you haven't seen enough, still turn in a ballot" Just feels weird. Also, Magnum, Psicosis, and Ogawa are drops from my list. I'm just happy none of my top 50 are gone.

I'm more then a little confused how some people chose Big Show as there "Seriously, that guy?" point. I had him at 53, which is probably overly high, but he's had some really strong matches at a lot of points in his career, including that freaking amazing match with Sheamus a couple years ago, to some pretty fun stuff all the way back in WCW. He's had lulls, but I think he's been solidly "Good" for almost 20 years, so I viewed his longevity as a reason to bump him up. Just an incredibly versatile performer, which is something I value a great deal. Also, bump Mochizuki and Nigel from my list as well. I'm a diehard RoH heyday mark, but I will admit I'm a LOT lower on Nigel then a lot of guys in that group. He was a good worker, but the style at the time was losing me a good deal. Missed the more 80's influenced with a touch of Japanese influence style they had going from 04-06, instead of what it became in 07 and forward, and Nigel was a big part of that change to me. Still was too good at that style for me to completely discredit him, and I was a fan of him of his 05, were I thought he became great as kinda a mix of what he had been before and what he ended up being.

I don't think either is really a great answer here, honestly, but probably Dixie because if TNA was more then just a vanity project for her it could have done a lot of good. But if TNA wasn't a vanity project for Dixie (or, more realistically, a "Make sure Dixie doesn't fuck up Daddy's company" project), TNA probably doesn't exist at all. Steph... Personally, I think if she did actively hurt the industry in her role with the company, I don't think we could A: Quantify how much and B: Be able to establish if just about any other person in the same spot that actually could have landed in said spot, wouldn't have done as much, if not more damage. As a character, she has been pretty shitty, but there's a strong chance they'd have just picked a different shitty Authority figure in her absence anyway.

Updated personal list 57. Roderick Strong- 236 65. Homicide- 269 68. Luke Harper- 300 69. El Mesias- 293 70. Paul London- 298 72. Kana- 244 84. Jamie Noble- 290 92. Jimmy Rave- 338 93. Jimmy Jacobs- 353 95. John Morrison- 419 96. Batista- 241 98. Eddie Kingston- 311 100. YAMATO- 331 So up to 13. Can you tell I loved the Early to Mid 2000's Indys, and find late 2000's WWE kinda undevalued? Main note I have is that I think Roderick, more then anything, was screwed over by trying to adjust to the "modern" style the indys took when Davey Richards style took control. He was so much better in his role with GN were he could wrestle either as an Arn Anderson style bodyguard for Aries (in which time he might have actually outshined Aries), and then after his babyface as a kinda basic whitemeat who had decent if not great charisma in ring but really really good how to build matches. And I'll be that one weird guy that always says Strong/Gibson stole the weekend from Joe/Kobashi, to me. One of my favorite matches ever there.

Now down 10 off my ballot. 65. Homicide- 269 .... 68. Luke Harper- 300 69. El Mesias- 293 70. Paul London- 298 ... 84. Jamie Noble- 290 ... 92. Jimmy Rave- 338 93. Jimmy Jacobs- 353 ... 95. John Morrison- 419 ... 98. Eddie Kingston- 311 ... 100. YAMATO- 331 Still no high votes, and now looking at my list, I'm starting to accept I may not have any until we get to my top 5. Only one other person in my top 50 I think I have much of a chance of being high vote for.

Incredibly happy Kingston got 5 votes, even if the 13 is a "Wha?" ranking to me.

So, so far in, 4 guys off my ballot listed, all in the 90's 92. Jimmy Rave- 338 93. Jimmy Jacobs- 353 95. John Morrison- 419 100. YAMATO- 331 I'm more then a little surprised my No.98 hasn't been listed yet, but something someone said in here is making me think that there's an explanation for that. I legitimately might not have a high vote till we get to my top 10.

There is a guy who made my ballot I'm so shocked still hasn't been named yet that I'm tempted to private message to make sure he just hasn't been forgotten in the run down.