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Wrath was getting hecka over squashing jobbers on B and C shows with the occasional Nitro appearance until Goldberg showed up and was running essentially the same gimmick but much more effectively. With that said I would pick Clarke for sure he had a better look over all and worked way more believably as a big man and in the caparison of these two that's really all they had going for them. I also find Clarke way more fluid in ring and can't think of anything in a match that Adams did better you could argue that Adams was a better talker but still he's not selling tickets with his promo so I go Clarke all the way with James Vandenberg managing. My biggest problem though is how much I would hate to have to live in a world where we were actually forced to live wherein there is one without the other we are all so fortunate that his is just a thought experiment and not reality.

I would say that Misawa didn't as clearly bookend his career because he was still active with no sign of retiring, within I'd say conservatively the next 5 years liberally 10, before his untimely passing so it could be contended that he would have done more to add to or detract from his case which leaves that little bit of open-endedness to his career that the other do not have even-weirdly, Funk who is still wrestling feels like his career is very much concluded because over the past few years it has become very obvious exactly what he can produce with his body completely broken down and it has in no way really effected his over all case. A very odd nit to pick I know but reading your break down made me feel inspired this fine Friday morning

I really enjoyed your quick talk can't wait for the full convo

Closest without going over?

Okay Stacey's argument for Brock makes me regret not listing him

I enjoyed the Ballard Brothers schtick in early PWG. I havent seen anything of them in years though. Cool that they are trainers. I did as well I really have a huge soft spot for Pacific-Northwest and So-Cal indies guys completely based on regional bias but yeah if Dylan & Zellner get to act like southern indies are better than UK just because they are at the shows live then I get to say that Scott Lost is one of the 100 GWE

That's not fun the point is to try to guess it in order 1.Daniel Bryan 2.Ric Flair 3.Jushin Liger 4. Stan Hansen 5.Terry Funk 6.Jerry Lawler 7. Toshiaki Kawada 8. Kenta Kobashi 9. Mitsuharu Misawa 10 .Rey Mysterio Jr.

I misspoke Ricky Mandel was trained by the Ballard brothers not the Cutlers but you know no one cares

Just like with any social rights based movement, figures from the past being judged by the standards of the day will produces for lack of a better construct winners and losers wrestlers like Madusa, Nakano, and Hokuto come to mind as strong female characters that rarely if at all seem to express traits or actions that are driven by patriarchal expectations or desires while others will be seen as exploitative minstrel showesque "rape porn" but it seems that even you are implying a monolithic fandom from female-feminists as I could cite anecdotal cases of female-feminists that enjoyed joshi death matches.

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How could HBK finish before Cena? Everyone knows "HE WAS UP ALL NIGHT!!!""

I sift through the current joshi that gets uploaded once in a while and I have to say 97% of it is so bad I think it would take a miracle for the scene to get back to it's old form. This is definitely true that it will never get the level it was again or at least probably not with in the next 20 years but the same could be said for wrestling as a whole so relatively speaking I feel Joshi is primed for a hot streak in comparison to the rest of wrestling as it is starting to get noticed and there is some more talent there than there has been in the past 10 years

I think the backlash on Brock right now is only from the hardcore crowd and once the more mainstream and casual fans have a similar reaction I assume we will see a resurgence of the super worker Brock we use to see Brock seems to be a pretty smart worker and tends to work to what it takes to get the biggest pops right now suplex city is over And Phil Stardom, Ice Ribbon, and Sendai Girls are all getting buzz and starting to show signs of heating up combined with the popularity of American female workers currently I wouldn't be suprised if fans aren't looking back to see what inspired them in 10 years then they are all more popular

I have the feeling the legend of Brock will hold up similar to other past multi-sport athletes an example that comes to mind is Wahoo McDaniel

I really loved this review excited for more I wonder if the cocky bash young upstart character Lio is play in most other places will start to come through more in ROH

Their matches are underrated the feud had some trash but it also had some bright spots Punk pretending to be drunk to trick Jericho in the ring stands out as really well done Bugs Bunny type stuff I must be fair though as I think that in all 7 Mania Punk was in he always had at least the second best match including the match with Jericho being the match of the night to me. Their street fight at the next PPV was even better you think dad-bod tinder profile Jericho is bad now remember he was in a street fight wearing designer jeans with rhinestones on the ass-flaps

I'm willing to accept this When? Their feud and matches were pretty good if you ask me

I recently had a conversation with a friend about Christopher Daniels and when his feud with Punk was brought up as a pro Daniels point I had one thing to say "I refuse to give anyone any credit for having a good promo, feud, angle, or match with Punk because really it's like who has ever had a bad one with him? Elijah Burke?"

jpchicago23 high vote on Punk, well played we all know that's you Phil

What do you recommend we do about it?

Just because Funk was over in Japan doesn't make him a non-American candidate

Both of these are correct to put it in my own words Vader had way more versatility and athleticism an unfortunate point that I think was made strongly through out the process was "We live in the world the way it is not the way it should be" in that people only got the chances they got as such Vader had more chances with more opponents does that mean that Vader was definitely better than Aja? No but, it does mean that we saw Vader get to show more than Aja because as a Joshi she had a much more limited pool of people to work even later one when she branched out more she didn't have anywhere near the impressive held world titles on 3 continents run Vader did. In-ring Vader had much more varied offense and sold in a way that was more pleasing to my taste I say to my taste because I know some could and would argue that Aja's style of selling was better for a monster character which I don't care to disprove. Over all Vader just felt more game and up to the challenge of working with people more than Aja once again this is a preference to my taste at this point though with Vader clearly finishing higher than Aja I would have to assume that this is an opinion that is shared. Vader changed what is expect from a big man wrestler in a way that could never been undone he is now the standard that big men workers are held to I just don't get that same feeling from Aja

As you say people knew what was coming and reacted in kind I'd say Hogans big pops towards the end was less about his work and more of a Pavlovian response does he really deserve credit for that as a worker? It shows that once the vast majority of the crowd got tired of it they turned on him so harshly it forced a heel turn if it was his skill as a sympathetic worker why couldn't he figure out a way to get the crowd behind him again?

That is a weird anecdote