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qhilw on PWO people will say his stuff in Japan is indie Just like bret Owen was heel in Japan The Mainstream Narrative is everything out side of WWE or back than WWE and WCW is indie No it isn't, stop talking rubbish. i have debate on YT when i brought the fact that N has been the 2nd biggest promotion in the world for most of the last 40 years in pure drawing sense sibce it get dismissed like it an indie that is wjat i mean by people saying TNA is bigger

This is a very good Pick

I fail to see why Other Joshi promotions are held as high as AJW is maybe modern day stardom is, but im talking about stuff that was around at the time Zenjo was around

id say not people here in alot of other places everything outside WWE is called indie yet again the state no on PWO in any way

Atifact of the time new Japan did nor change all gaijin were heels all Japan did change the funks and Ace were faces for example in all japan so by that fact all owen's stuff was heel the first Gajin non |Heel in New Japan was Pegasus

Though i do not rate people on promo Ambrose is underrated as promo guy in wwe some of his Moxley promos are spectacular im one on the overrated side i say just let him be Moxley on the mic and he will be loved in the way Punk was

qhilw on PWO people will say his stuff in Japan is indie Just like bret Owen was heel in Japan The Mainstream Narrative is everything out side of WWE or back than WWE and WCW is indie

Along those lines is Owen.. He's probably overrated for his 80s workrate-y stuff and underrated for his 90s character-driven heel stuff. When his best heel stuff was in the indies that most peopel who only watch wwe have never seen

May 9 JWP TV WOW SPORTS @ Ariake Match 1 Combat Toyoda vs Mayumi Ozaki 00;00 -05;00 Opening Exchanges Toyoda on top with her Power advantage it spills out of the Ring 05;00-12;00 brawling around the ring and the whole stadium including many chair shots as they get to the ring both are split open 12;01- 17;08 many close falls mainly for Ozaki as the bigger Toyoda is loosing her steam un still ozaki goes up the ropes and loses her footing and Toyota hits Thunder fire bomb for the ko victory Match 2 Jackie sato vs Bolshoi Kid 00;00 -05-00 sato wins the opening Exchanges 05;01 - 08;09 Kid Make a comback untill a run in of Dump Matsumoto Bull Nakano and Aja Kong The JWP Zenjo Fued begins All the younger JWP Young Lioness try and Fail to Get the Doumei out of the ring until the stadium goes dark and Kansai and and teh still Bolld ozaki run and clear the ring with Chairs 40 minute segment ----------------------------------------------------- NJPW TV 11th of January Funaki Masaharu vs Jushin Liger 00;00-05-00 Funaki winning the first exchanges including a close submission to a Standing sleeper hold only broken when Funaki falls in to the ropes 05;01-10;00 Liger comes back with a couple of hand knee strikes and running liger bomb for 2 count 10;01 to 13;05 Liger win wi SSP Fujiwara vs Choshu 00;00 -06;30 the opens exchaes won by Choshu untill Fujiwara Doges Riki Lairtae and lock a Fujiwara armbar and tap outs Choshu New Japan and UWF Introduce there repsentive for the unified world title Tournament UWF team sakuraba Fujiwara Han Suzuki New japan Team Koshinaka Choshu Hase Sasaki 18 min segment ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It's not easy to find footage of a lot of the big matches from before the 90's. The 90's peak produced some universally loved classics, but a lot of it can be divisive due to how influential Toyota was on the overall style. Also they went out of business 15 years ago while NJPW is still producing great matches. Im not sure whats out there but thanks to Vince bringing in a few for the 95 Survivor Series match made me years later want to see who they wrestled and was glad I did, even suprised to see Madusa there I think must have been the 80s. I remember TWC over in the UK airing some womens Japan wrestling, can't remember the name off the top of my head just have visions of someone being slapped constantly in the intro. what yw=eat was that channel around is it was 2000-2005 it may well have been Gaea or jwp

May 7th All Japan TV Opening Match Ace/Animal vs Ricky Steamboat and Shane Douglas 00;00 05;00 Opening Exchanges Lariats Headlocks and Powerslam my animal for 2 count 05;01- 11;09 Ricky and sane make there comeback unuttl animal catche a High cross from Ricky and hits power slam for 2 a count at 09;02 then as ace and animal are hoisting out ricky for the sky-high Ricky rolls up for the pins at 10;09 Match 2 Revolution vs FuchiGorai 00;00 -06;00 Hara and Tenryu try and Fail to outpower Williams and Gordy Leading to powerbomb and close falll at 5;05 06;01 t- 15;00 Tenryu and grody Battle each other until Gordy get the upper hand then har get tag in him and Gordy battle it out un tiill hara hits laiate that take hi m and Gordy out the thr Ring Gordy is Kock out by the Move as hara smashes his head of the fllor koing him slef as he falls double count-out at 15:00 Match three Owaga vs Fuchi n=number 1 contneder for the JR title 00-00 - 10-00 The older more Experienced Fuchi gains the upper hand over the younger Ogawa inducing a close fall at 8;08 10;01 - 16;08 Back and forth untill Ogawa get the his moves in Slamd and Brainbuster in at 11;06 for 2 count fall then as Fuch is making his comeback he misses a dropkick and ogawa Rolls him up for the three count Tiger mask comes to Ring askes Unmasks and asks Ogawa to form a team

id like ot see some Kyle Matthews stuff he the only one mention in the whole topic i never seen

May 1990 WWF/NJPW UWF Great War in the in Meiji Jingu may 5th Match 1 JJ Jacks vs The Rockers IWGP JR HW Tag Team no 1 contenders match The opening 5 minutes of the match is the fast set of transitions Between Michaels and Nogami, Nogami gets the upper hand Hot tag to Marty at 5;16 He cleans house , with fast Flying Lariets and Dropkicks and mat work Iizuka comes in at 8;18 beginning the closing stretch Match ends at 12;09 with German Suplex by Nogami Hype Video for the Jr unification match between Sano and Hart video last 6 mins includes clips of Sano vs liger 1989 Match and Hart vs Black Tiger [Rocco] from the UK Marty Jones and Steve Regal vs Yamazaki and Takada UWF rules match 20 points 45 minutes time list 00;00 -02;50 Yamazaki Trades Kicks with Regal's Slaps and chops 2;51-6;00 Regal Takes down Yamazaki in a Chancery first lost point Rope Brake Yamazaki Tag s out 6;10-9;09 Takada Kocks down regal with Head kick 7 count first three Jones comes in Takes down Takada Lost Point Takada gets up and get taken down again within 30 seconds 3 lost points each 9;10-13;30 mat work exchanges between Jones and Yamazaki 13;31-21;40 Jones Knocksdown8 count Yamazaki and 15;50 6-3 lead for Jones regal Takada mat exchanges until rope brake of a leg bar then another rope brake Heel hook 6-4 20;02 tags out Takada and Regal 21;50 -30;00 25;09 Knockdown 8 count Regal Takada 9-4 26;50 knockdowns 6 count Takada on Jones 9-7 Mat exchanges 29;58 Fujiwara Armbar on Jones Leads to rope brake 9-8 30;01 -34-;59 30-23 knockdown 7 count f flying knee regal on Takada 12-8 Knockdown Yamazaki on jones 12-11 9 Count Mat exchanges lead to Cross Arm-breaker Takada on regal 12-12 34;59 35;00-45;00 38-09 Standing 8 count Regal on Takada 15-12 40;02 knee bar Takada regal rope brake 15-13 41;08 standing 8 count Yamazaki on Jones Head Kick 16-15 43;00 Front face lock leading to rope brake 16-16 43;34 armbar rope brake regal on Takada 17-16 44;02 Armbar Jones on Takada rope brake 17;15 44;32 Head Kick Takada one jones 18-17 time out winner Takada and Yamazaki on points Match 3 Hashimoto Muto Chono vs Inoki Saito and Sakaguchi 00;00-06;00 The Older Team start off on top Muto having to battle off many Saito plex attempts 06;01-10;00 Chono comes in Cleans house many ddts and cradles pins on Sakaguchi and Inoki 10;01- 14;11 10;30 Saito hits a Saito Plex on Muto both Role out the Ring 11;20 Hashimoto comes in with rolling Koppu kick stunning Inoki Sakaguchi comes but get over power by the young King Hashimoto Wins with a Vertical Drop DDT on Sakaguchi Hype Video for the unified world title Tournament that begins in Mexico in ten days times Main event UWF vs New Japan Sakuraba vs Vader 00;00-10;00 Vader dominates for the six minutes Dominating the young lion with strikes that lead to two standing 8s for Sakuraba 10;08 -13;09 Sakuraba comes back wins with a standing Triangle hold by ko after the main event, the unified WWF/IWGP Champion comes out and challenges Sakuraba to match

a Gimmick should never be cover or interfere in the work of worker a band worker if good gimmick if still a bad worker a good worker with bad gimmick unless he oenly bad will get over it and his talent will shine like the sun and shine on Taker i never seen a top-level woker Vader was the better big man and was level above taker an bur Jacobs was fine worker if Japan stuff just saying the kane gimmick capped him alot

I'm curious in regards to your take of him being overrated. He's usually the guy who puts on bangers and most folks agree he's great and wonder why he doesn't get a bigger push, yet seems to be absent from most "best in the world" discussions. I think Ishii a lot of people may dislike his style and his stiff Head buts that herd and read that view on the Pitbull not saying Kix think that way but iv seen people who do i pd not think that is vaid thing to say since if its style thing its close minded

the line of argumentation I never understood is Dave has a bias to match that 1 if one takes place in Japan 2 take place at Big egg but in the whole nigh on 39 years of big egg matches very few of them have high marks from dave. hell, the all Japan show and the dome has no five-star matches and the zenjo a card with over 20 matches has only 1 ***** match if that dave has no bias from what I have seen or no bias that some people say he has. everyone has biases Be Ted Dibiase Or Volk Han or Lucha brawls or so on but people who attach dave for biases to New Japan are wrong based on what I have seen and read of him.

from a match structure standpoint, Okada and Omega cannot do much more than they did already. That is the crux of why i do not think the next match will go as long

Megumi Kudo is close to 50 im not sure is she has t 50 sh wwas under that when a picture was taken around 3 years ago and he looks woah Milfsh yes

will this Happen since new Japan will never go over 60 as much as Gedo Love NWA style as he himself has said in a tweet maybe go up to 63 like older NWA Title matches did but that is up in air overall

i think the TNA comes from bad Booking over bad work for the most part Good booking Helps good work but bad booking hardly ever = bad work unless its bad booking of bad worker and for the tna i have watched minus is like x or y style or not i can notice good or bad work yes as any wrestling fan weather pro anti or ambivalent on TNA>IW Or whatever thye call themselves this week you have say Vince russo cannot book wrestling. im overall r ambivalent on this promotion thay have a very good stuff angle vs joe Cage match for example the match structure Helped that alot Booking Hurts Tna more than the work does from what i have seen and sometmies bad match structure Hurts Things

When i am in fact not a troll i post what i believe and get called a troll for it

Orton is boring i though was the only one

I don't understand a word of what you wrote, but good job in continuing the gimmick by linking to something on YouTube that mentions Trump in the title of the video. fox news is the least trustworthy news source as that video shows how is that political even fox irs self showed the graphic only 30% of people trust fox based on poll by Monmouth college its not overtly political at all

i more ways than one he wiill brake all records if he holds on untill dominion including Kobashi record he wil have the longets run in the history of modern Pro wrestling in any promotion two whole years

Great post, shodate. Let's check The shodate Manifesto and see how you scored... Now please respond the way I know you're going to, so I can check off #6 as well. And for the record...yes I know what I just posted is "deformation." So much for his claims that To no surprise whatsoever didn't even last a week without breaking that one! what is not Polical Fox news in News Source id say the same about MSBNC or akin saying a news source in not accurate is Political @ TTK i have made lots of other posts that have gone in to detail and thye have been ignored i make one short one you point it out