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Corbin is actually really solid but he's been booked in such a manner that no one wants to watch anything he's involved with.

Really underrated WM match: Bulldog vs Warlord at 7. It's really the only kind of high impact hoss battle I can think of in that time period for WWE. It's weird because they have a match on a CHV tape that was so boring I'd watch it to go to sleep as a kid.

I hate KO using the stunner as his finish. It's directly associated with only the biggest star in history who actually still pops up and hits the move himself every couple of years. Any time anyone hit a stunner after 2003 that wasn't Austin, it was treated as a comedy spot anywhere in the world. It's weird and I'm sure Austin is cool with it, but I don't like it at all.

Uh ending seemed pretty abrupt just as it was picking up. Why the fuck did that tag match go longer?

They can have a great match without big moves and dramatic kick outs and also with Sami doing chickenshit heeling, but Sami has not had any enjoyable matches that I've seen in this heel run as the whole thing is very much heels don't have good matches thinking and I don't think that shit works in this day and age and 99% of the time is no fun to watch. Even if a heel is making you legit mad, you should still be enjoying a match as a viewer and fan. Heel Sami has been great character work, boring as fuck matches.

Did they ever work Sami heel, Kevin face before WWE

I hope this is a real match these guys are capable of on such a stage and not Sami stalling and being a chicken shit for 12 minutes because good heels have bad matches bullshit

The close up on Edge pulling his hair and shaking after Roman kicks out of a spear or the pin gets broken up is gonna be absolute fire

I believe it. You'd think that would make them actually position Sasha in a way to carry shows and ratings then. If she's drawing the best ratings when you put her in a big match the day of the show or a week in advance, what if you gave yourself an extra 2-3 weeks to promote and see what happens? Idk.

This hour is worse than the entire show last night yet somehow the audience is into this

A tag team out of the two people on the roster the longest with the fewest memorable moments or matches of anyone. What could go wrong.

I meant I don't think there's anything out there that I haven't seen that might change my opinion either direction

Holy shit that knee

Somehow that actually might not have been as bad as their WM match a few years ago

Lmao

You know what makes this extra stupid is on the pre show when covering the HOF, they had Kane talking about the character of Kane and when it was presented to him he knew it was going to change his life, etc. I'm not one of those YOU GOTTA PROTECT KAYFABE shits, but maybe don't have the closest analogue to a character on this show on the pre-show out of character talking about being presented the character and gimmick.

Really? I think it's the complete opposite. NJ and AEW runs have been embarrassing legacy ruining type shit where he's just an old fat drunk gassing out in 5 minutes and literally audibly wheezing in most matches. The first Kenny match was okay only because there was still the WWE association with Jericho and it was on the weakest WK in years. The unbelievably corny shit of just stealing whatever his opponent's look or name was and pretending like he was doing some great reinvention of himself. The hilarious rationalization of his boozed up weight gain as being he was being a powerlifter to be a brawler lmao. Then his AEW run is just the same. He's had bad matches with everyone, his entire shtick is WE'RE NOT WWE BABY AND I CAN SAY SHIT ON TV, he's constantly embarrassing himself being defensive against any criticism like he's an insecure 25 year old instead of 50 year old with 30 years of experience. He's regularly on TV bragging about demos of a show that rarely tops 800,00 viewers, he'll go on promos about how he did 15 week programs to make Orange Cassidy a star (and OC hasn't done shit since that feud, those wins did nothing for him) or how much he's evaluated everyone in the Inner Circle despite the entire group also having been doing nothing for a year and are in the same positions or lower than what they were at the start of Dynamite and the Inner Circle forming. Dude has been Ziggler tier of sighing when his music hits since at least 2005, and going back earlier I now find his 2000-2001 run to be unbelievably grating and uncool even if I liked it at the time as a kid. But you know, kids often have terrible taste. Love his 1998 WCW run, though.

I don't even know how one substantiates who is a draw or not in WWE unless their segments consistently hemorrhage viewers. New Day has been in the top 3 merch movers and at times top merch movers for 5-6 years straight, but their segments don't do any better ratings than any one else, and I can't imagine people were buying tickets to PPVs specifically for New Day matches. Becky was so hot but ratings were still on the consistent slide they'd been on since 2001 and she did nothing to stop that. Everything is built around the brand first and foremost by design so even when someone takes off, it's pretty hard to tell if they're really a draw in the sense of bringing eyeballs to the shows or just popular among the audience already watching. In Sasha's case, she clearly does get outside eyeballs based on how much stuff she does outside of wrestling, but she's rarely been really given the ball in prominent positions for a significant amount of time to see. She's headlined PPVs and weekly shows, but those decisions have generally been made the week of or days before and so have never really been built around her specifically headlining. The HIAC with Charlotte wasn't the main event until I think the Friday before the show. The Raw main event with Charlotte was day of. Unless there's another huge boom, I don't know how one can really define any individual as the draw, which again is intentional. As a performer, she's pretty much untouchable. The only female talent states side that I can say is maybe better than Sasha is Io, but Io hasn't had any matches in NXT as good as Sasha's work in NXT or main roster in similar positions. I would say in a big match situation, no one has delivered more than Sasha in WWE since 2015.

Good, because that run fucking sucks outside of the Diesel and Mankind matches.

I don't know what you're talking about because they already only use a small few on TV every week and they already repeat the same angles and segments for weeks and months at a time even with the huge roster of talent. That's actually the main issue, they don't utilize their roster well at all and are highly repetitive with storyline angles.

Honestly I think Vince keeps using Hogan out of his contrarian fuck the audience mind set as well as he's actually trolling Hulk. He's been more than happy to quit and shit on and try to humble Hulk multiple, multiple times in the past. Every time Hulk comes back to do stuff, he's paired up with black talent or otherwise made to look like a parody of himself. So every time he looks like a goof or there's obvious tension. Like for instance at the HOF where he still is completely out of place with Hall/Nash/Kid and he's cutting a promo about being the hottest thing in the biz and one more run...and they're just trying not to laugh at him the whole time. I'm really convinced it's some petty bullshit Vince is playing with both Hulk and the audience.

Reigns is really fucking good and has been since the start of his singles run with the Orton match at Summerslam 2014.. Been a lot of bitch eating crackers syndrome with him over the years as much of a reaction to the decade of Cena than Roman himself. Roman was the most over guy in Shield and was the guy the crowds wanted that run from the most so Vince gave it to them and then they got mad about it and it stayed that way for years. I think it's telling that literally every time Roman would be a bad ass or do something cool, they crowds would be 100% on his side (which usually happened with Cena as well). Dude has had some great matches with a pretty varied group of guys and styles from Orton to AJ/Bryan to Braun to Cena to Big Show to Brock to Rollins to Ambrose to Rusev and so on. I think he's unquestionably better than Cena in the ring (and Cena himself is a bit underrated) and was really hampered with some of the worst written promos for any top guy in any era for a lot of his run. That match with Braun where he had a bum arm and so he worked the entire match from entrance to exit doing everything differently and having to find new ways to weave in his big spots and moves is one of the best performances of the decade imo.

Does he do actual booking and promoting for GCW besides the Spring Break shows? Because those are pure ass meme fantasy booking that are EWR cards come to life. Shit those might be closer to TNM7 come to life.

I was watching the BSS with him and was pretty amazed at how lucky he's been in his career. Got booked originally because he happened to have a radio show and could promote shows, just straight up stole everything he liked from other guys STILL IN THE TERRITORY at the time and didn't get his shit stomped in, the king moniker happened once from a fan and just kind of stuck, the actual cape and crown thing was borrowed and the guy died on the plane right back so Lawler kept wearing it, Kaufman went to Memphis because Vince Sr. didn't want him doing an angle in his company, gets brought into to the WWF because of Vince bringing in Jerry Jarrett to maybe kind of sort of possibly run things, and then gets the Raw commentary spot because Savage left for WCW (although his timing is off in the story he tells of it), and so on. Personally I hated his entire WWE run on commentary, in the ring, in talking segments and it wasn't until the Memphis sets got out that I was able to see oh actually King was pretty awesome. Now I'm wrapping back around to thinking "fuck this guy" and at this stage I'm unsure if it is because of his personal views, his WWE career still tainting my view of him, that he's still a creep and corny as fuck when he's on WWE programming, or what. I can't imagine there are going to be a bunch of hidden gems that weren't on the Memphis sets that are going to pop up in the next few years.

Lol yeah we used to go to Sarasota for a week every summer and there'd be a torrential downpour every 20-30 minutes for a few minutes and then be bright and sunny and dry minutes later. In the Mid West, what I saw most of the day on Twitter and at the show would be "better hurry up and finish mowing" weather.