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Bill Alfonso says that if RVD & Sabu don't come back from Japan with the tag titles, he'll split the team up. RVD muses on this in pretty amusing fashion, as he wonders what kind of family would take in a freak like Sabu. We get teased with a staggeringly unnecessary "serious" repackaging of Supernova. The Dudleys cut a promo on their tag title match as Buh Buh promises to win clean without Sign Guy, Gertner, or Big Dick. This goes on for about 47 minutes as Buh Buh could stand to take lessons in brevity from Shane Douglas. Danny Doring makes his Yearbook debut and he introduces us to Roadkill, who they seem to be paying lip service to getting over as a twisted heel, at least for now. Justin Credible yells at Tommy Dreamer and then abuses Chastity in a rather uncomfortable and desperate scene.
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So, I'd like to take this opportunity to talk about Joey Styles, EVOLVE, Gabe Sapolsky, political correctness, where this country is headed in the wake of the '16 election and-- ... Anyway, this pretty much illustrates how creatively bankrupt ECW is at this point. They literally just re-do the previous week's angle, wholesale. Taz agrees to team with Shane for some stupid reason. Sabu pins Shane. The Dudleys pin Sabu. Taz hits Sabu with a Tazmissionplex and hospitalizes him. Every last bit, something we saw a week ago. Oh, but this time, the Dudleys beat up a Buffalo radio host.
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[1998-12-07-WWF-Raw] The Rock & The Undertaker vs Steve Austin & Mankind
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1998
Cole's voice is shot, forcing Lawler to carry this on commentary and reducing him to the empty corporate talking-point machine he is today ("Mankind, the most unpredictable superstar in the World Wrestling Federation..."). This match isn't really as heated as you might expect for something so star-studded, though it's not terrible or anything. Mankind gets handcuffed to the rope and beaten down by Rock, Shamrock, and Boss Man, and Austin gets crucified, which sparked a fairly big online controversy at the time. Yeah, this blows, and it's mind-numbing that Undertaker gets a free pass for so much bullshit through the years. Would something have been wrong with just shoving Austin in a body bag? I can't wait for this feud to be over. -
[1998-12-07-WWF-Raw] HHH & X-Pac vs Big Bossman & Ken Shamrock
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1998
I can reluctantly allow the repeat of the soon-to-be-tired "take the chair from a supposed partner, then turn on them" spot on the basis that it was a deliberate callback to Shawn turning on X-Pac. Otherwise, yawn. They've teased way too many DX splits that weren't for this to have much meaning, even though it pops the crowd good. Uh...and didn't Shawn say this match was supposed to be anything-goes and that the Outlaws would be allowed to get involved? Why the DQ? -
"IT'S BETTER THAN SEX!!" I enjoyed D'Lo's attempts to justify why he's still the European champion.
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I think this is a pretty obvious swerve that we're in for--nobody actually announces anything in the Attitude Era. If the NAO were going to turn, they'd have done it in a match. There are some good personal below-the-belt shots here between HBK and HHH but neither one actually wants to sell for the other (or just about anybody else) in a mic-spot, so it all ends up falling kinda flat.
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[1998-12-07-WCW-Nitro] Goldberg vs Kevin Nash vs Bam Bam Bigelow
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1998
Come January, this will make two consecutive Dome shows where WCW will make every effort to kill the town. I'd just like to mention for about the 37th time that when the WWF baits-and-switches us, 99% of the time, they manage to make us forget about what we originally thought we were going to see. This is just a pathetic mess.- 4 replies
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This from a Reynolds-directed movie called Hard Time, which I've never heard of but sports a fairly decent B- cast of Reynolds, Piper, Billy Dee Williams, Robert Loggia, and others.
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"If Goldberg thinks he's running the show, he's not." I love shoot comments that aren't supposed--oh, who am I kidding, of course that was supposed to be a shoot comment. By whose authority does Nash have the ability to insert himself into the main event? They're not even attempting to make sense of this, unless Nash just plans on doing a run-in.
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I really don't care for the LWO as a group, as it seems to only marginalize the non-Eddy (and I guess now non-Juvie) luchadores further when the goal was for the opposite to be the case.
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No one replaced Booger--his spot was empty, with Vince and Ted assuming it was supposed to be the injured Bret.
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Yeah--MAYBE you could pass this off as Eric Bischoff propaganda, but I'm guessing WCW isn't sophisticated enough to portray that kind of nuance for a video. This will be an interesting compare and contrast opportunity when Vince is forced out next year.
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[1998-12-07-WCW-Nitro] Scott Steiner and Wild Cat Willie
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1998
I can't believe he was still around at this point.- 4 replies
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[1998-12-06-WWF-Capital Carnage] Vince McMahon at Oxford University
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1998
When you're hot, you're hot.- 3 replies
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[1998-12-06-WWF-Sunday Night Heat] WWF Attitude Cologne Commercial
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1998
GEORGE and ADAM again?? Who ARE these guys? Who did they know? -
[1998-12-06-WWF-Sunday Night Heat] Bone Crunchin' Buddies
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1998
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[1998-12-06-WWF-Super Astros] Negro Casas vs Dick Togo
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1998
Sort of a spotfesty TV match but they sure do cram in a lot of stuff in this brief amount of time. Had the WWF had any clue how to get the division over they could have quickly put together a cruiserweight division to rival WCW's.- 3 replies
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Dave and Corey don't seem overly concerned with the state of Randy Hales here.
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[1998-12-05-MPPW-TV] Bill Dundee vs Brian Christopher
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1998
A fun little studio match with some awesome punches and takedowns by Dundee, but not much more than that. Good, I didn't get Christopher's line about high heels and flip flops either, unless it's just that he's saying Samantha's feet are so disgusting it destroys her shoes, or something. He also refers to a fan as Shamu the Killer Whale which is that type of Kenny Bania-esque "don't have to think about it" humor I come to expect from my wrestling heels.- 4 replies
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AJPW finishes the year strong, as they always seem to do no matter what happens earlier--though I will say this year felt stronger from start to finish than '97 did, which opened with a GOAT candidate and then slid off for 10 months until a hot finish. As for the match itself, yeah, it's a MOTYC and probably the best AJPW tag I can recall seeing. Vader feels home again and continues to fit right into this environment, and Kobashi is such a perfect opponent for him on multiple levels. This is hard-hitting and super-heated and yet never really feels overindulgent--as Loss said, it's more of a big slugfest than a match with a lot of advanced offense, but the moves are still put over like they're high-end. And the finish is almost cinematic, as a dead Jun resurrects himself and you can see the action develop as he makes a last-ditch effort for the save.
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Not a great match, not the best indy match of the year, but much better than a lot of other indy matches on these sets. A good structure will do that for you, and the Hardyz and Helms already know how to lay out a southern tag match but punctuate it with more advanced '90s offense. Weirdly, since they make such a big deal about the Hardyz signing WWF contracts, it seems to heel them with the crowd to the point where you'd swear it was by design. But the match is worked with them as babyfaces all the way. Then some goof gets on the mic and rants a bunch and comes off as every stereotypical indy promoter desperate to be part of his show.
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Boy, this was tough to watch. Thank God for the Dudleys' good old wrasslin'-style attack because I'm about sick of them trying to play Taz up as having done this crap "for real" or whatever.
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Tammy's still looking good at this point, personal problems notwithstanding.
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[1998-11-30-WWF-Raw] Steve Austin, Kane and Paul Bearer
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
I don't want to see any more of Undertaker vs. Kane, though I admit I liked the visual of Austin sneaking up on Undertaker and finally laying him out with the shovel. Missed on the disc but explained to us by the announcers, they somehow got another Kane mask and put it on the Undertaker, and when Bearer brought the orderlies back, they ended up carting *him* to the institution and not Kane. Probably too clever by half. The in-ring segment is awful and does in fact sort of contradict my earlier contention that the embalming was semi-erased from history, as for all their downplaying of it in the first segment, it's rehashed here in all its glory. The sewer climax is whatever--compared to where this segment was headed, it's probably not such a terrible payoff. -
[1998-11-30-WWF-Raw] Mankind vs Big Bossman (Ladder)
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
I actually thought this was better than it looked on paper. It's rushed, but both guys take some really stiff shots with the ladder and they tease a miracle Mankind victory in the face of 2-on-1 odds before he's overwhelmed. Shawn alternates between being amusing and being a total JBL-esque shit, with some of those "postmodern wrestling" hallmarks that Parv loves so much, like bragging about how he can wrestle for 45 minutes and Mick can't. It's like this is where the start of the WWE exacerbating its wrestlers own weaknesses instead of hiding them comes from.