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Playing devil's advocate--EVOLVE shows are currently $14.99 for streaming and $19.99 for streaming + rewatching the show. They often run two shows a month. $20 for that plus archives doesn't sound so bad--and it's $12.50 a month if you buy a full year. The stuff about how they're "going to" do this and that and "look at" these promotions and the other don't really fill me with confidence, though. I want to know what else is going into this. Even at the reduced price, WWN is the bare-minimum starting point.
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[1993-08-24-ECW-TV] Interview: Eddie Gilbert & Paul E. Dangerously
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in August 1993
"Wrestling the way it used to be and the way you like it" was SMW's slogan that Caudle opened every show with. Both companies were actively marketing to sheet-readers and smart fans through their videotapes. -
For $20 a month they'd better have basically everything on WWN plus PWG and preferably NJ World, too. But Dave has already said that PWG turned them down flat.
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[1998-11-16-WWF-Raw] Road Warrior Hawk climbs the Titantron
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
I should have used "Pillman Voice" because the gun angle is where that really started, but I figured no one would know what that meant. But at least with the gun angle they kept it up for the rest of the show, instead of treating it like a standalone segment like this. -
[1998-11-22-WCW-World War III] Billy Kidman vs Juventud Guerrera
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
Per Dave, WCW simply decided to ignore Rey's #1 contendership and run a title re-match instead. Yes, really. "Oh, WCW" indeed. This is a balls-out finishing stretch, utilizing multiple rings in a really clever way. Hey Hayabusa and Fuyuki: *this* is how you get me to care about near-falls, by making it actually seem like said near-falls could end the match and treating them as actual potential match-enders and not just excuses for big moves. Rey repays Juvie from Nitro by costing him the Cruiserweight title. The post-match is just total stupidity. First off, why do the LWO care about Juventud's well-being? Is he a member? Then why was he trying to help Rey on Nitro? Or Was That a Plan All Along, too? Why does Eddie want Rey to make a decision "in or out" when he knows he has him against his will? Why are they running an indentured-servitude angle and blowing it off after SIX DAYS?- 5 replies
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[1998-11-22-WWF-Super Astros] El Hijo del Santo vs Super Loco
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
Crazy to see Santo in this environment. I don't know how the WWF expected this stuff to get over with live Attitude Era crowds, but I guess that's what sound-sweetening is for. Fun quick little TV match, in any event. -
[1998-11-21-MPPW-TV] Jerry Lawler & Stacy Carter vs Bill Dundee & Samantha
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
Nothing-happening match that takes a backdrop to Sean (Shawn?) Stasiak. So much for the "final confrontation" that we got on the first PPW episode. The Lawler-Hales feud seems to have taken a major back seat lately as well, though there is some lip service paid to it by the announcers.- 3 replies
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New Jack's from Harlem now. "I don't sing about it, I don't rap about it--I go in there and I whoop yo' ass." Man, WWE could use a black guy who's that honest and forthcoming right now. (That sounds way worse than I mean it.) Jack doesn't have much to focus on now, as Jack Victory and giant ass are on the shelf having broken their leg at N2R.
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[1998-11-20-FMW-Scramble Survivor] Hayabusa vs Kodo Fuyuki
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
Nope. Was one of those not-into-Hayabusa people before and I'm still not, Fuyuki's best efforts aside. I didn't care about or bite on any of the near falls and FMW main event style still comes off as 2.9 wrestling--guy takes a big move, acts dead, then suddenly kicks out. On to the next move until one arbitrarily ends the match. I'm still waiting for one of these FMW title matches to surprise me on *any* level--a predictable result or booking tactic is one thing, but I'm still calling out exactly what's going to happen before it does, almost every time. Also, for a guy who's "toning it down," Fuyuki really, really needs to stop trying shit like power bombs off the turnbuckle.- 3 replies
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Yeah, the match itself isn't overly special (though the action is quite good, especially the finisher-countering toward the end), but the crowd is ELECTRIC--one of the very best in a year of great WWF crowds. Mankind, Undertaker, Boss Man, and Shamrock all get into it and it all feels incredibly chaotic without being confusing or losing the plot. Austin fails to regain the title in his "only" title shot, as Undertaker clobbers Austin with a shovel. Your two side feuds until WrestleMania are now set--Russo's fingerprints are growing more evident but the main event scene booking is still solid.
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[1998-11-16-WWF-Raw] Road Warrior Hawk climbs the Titantron
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
And there's your 1998 Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic Award, right there. Well, unless the Ric Flair fake heart attack is worse than I remember. Yes, asking Droz and Hawk to climb around up there is totally irresponsible, borderline criminal, and that's one of about 907 things wrong with this segment. Like the cliffhanger commercial break, and the SHOOT NAMES, and the Owen Voices. A silhouette falls behind the TitanTron and a loud crash is heard. Crowd completely shits all over this and my respect for Attitude Era fans just increased about 75%. -
Chyna is back, sporting her new post-jaw-surgery look. Not that I'm a fan of the Val character but some type of storyline involving him and Chyna feels like a missed opportunity, somehow. Mark is still an affable lovebird at this point and not a sex addict.
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[1998-11-16-WWF-Raw] The Rock, Vince McMahon and Shane McMahon
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
Gloating Vince is back, and that may well be the best kind of Vince. There's almost no attempt to explain why Shane re-hired Austin just to fuck him, though Vince does say he wanted to "make Austin's life a living hell," so maybe one could generously assume that Vince had him re-hired out of spite so he could get revenge for the post-Judgment Day episode of Raw. But once Austin is out and Mills Lane announces that the title shot contract is legally binding, you kind of forget that plot hole ever existed. -
[1998-11-16-WCW-Nitro] More Goldberg and Bam Bam Bigelow
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
Bam Bam jumps Goldberg in the middle of his fireworks entrance and we have another pull-apart. I'm honestly more pumped for a Goldberg match than I have been in (Yearbook) months, thanks to a relatively simple angle, and a good performance by all the announcers in putting Bigelow over. Pity all the NWO crap has to get in the way.- 3 replies
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[1998-11-16-WCW-Nitro] More Hulk Hogan for President
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
This is so, so, SO bad. The bloom is so far off the Hogan rose that it can barely be described. The Hall turn(?) doesn't make much sense either, with his motivations being pretty much nonexistent.- 3 replies
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This was a terrific angle, and the sight of Bischoff and Dillon walking out together was a great way to get this surprise debut over as a major deal and Bam Bam as a threat. This has been a hell of a show overall.
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[1998-11-16-WCW-Nitro] Eddy Guerrero vs Rey Misterio Jr
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
Crowd was way more into Juvie and Kidman than this. Finish doesn't really make sense--was Eddy's bodyguard psychically expecting Juventud to botch his interference and cost Rey the match? And my God, after a few weeks how hard is it to pick a Latino name to give to this guy?- 3 replies
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Flair is great here and is way over in Wichita, but yeah, they're just throwing shit at the wall here. Windham is sadly just a WWF cast-off at this point and this feels like a TNA move.
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As someone blessed enough never to have heard a second of Don Imus' radio show, he looks *and* sounds disturbingly like Ron Tronguard. Of course there's no wrestling payoff here, this is a total Hogan egofuck, but more desperate than usual since he's now chasing Ventura instead of it historically being the other way around.
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[1998-11-16-WCW-Nitro] Billy Kidman vs Juventud Guerrera
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1998
Really good long TV match, the kind that's rapidly going extinct at this point. This is about as hard-hitting as any WCW cruiser match you'll see, with lots of big stiff bombs being dropped and good build to the near-falls while never getting overindulgent. Even some of the soon-to-be-cliches that we see (the inverted power bomb that no one ever does except to set up a bulldog, You Can't Powerbomb Kidman) are used well. I particularly liked Kidman countering the second attempt at the bulldog with a suplex-type move.- 5 replies
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Where the Big Boys Play #88 - Superbrawl III
PeteF3 replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Publications and Podcasts
Payne is a bit of an oddity to me. The dude was actually loaded with tools: - Legitimately massive dude. Good look despite Chad rightfully shitting on his ring attire here. - Amateur wrestling star at Iowa State. - Trained in the NJPW dojo. - A unique gimmick of a guitar player who could legitimately play. But, clearly, he never put it together to become even a decent worker. He's like the wrestling equivalent of a super-athletic "toolsy" prospect in baseball that scouts would love but never actually produced any results. I do, in spite of myself, rather enjoy the Badd Blaster-centric feud with Johnny B. Badd, and their angle at the next Clash. -
Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard
PeteF3 replied to Lust Hogan's topic in Publications and Podcasts
Meltzer was all over that on Twitter, saying that he spoke with Ventura in the lead-up to WM7 and Jesse was in complete disapproval of the angle.