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It's not a legit account, dude.

What's the big deal? What am I missing?

If you didn't buy any or take part in the project so far, not really interested in your thoughts. If you picked up some sets post-voting I would still entertain your opinions. If you chose to participate in some, not others I would love to get your opinion and why you exempted yourself from some of the promotions. I am excluding the 1st WWF set from discussion because the current project is fundamentally different from the initial project. These are the sets that have been released so far. Other JapanMid SouthMemphis New JapanTexasAll JapanAWA

For a Brit from Surrey, he is probably a revelation.

His Memphis work is awesome and he could have been one of my favorites of the 1990s if he was stuck in Memphis or Dallas the entire time. After Memphis, I agree with every single thing you said.

If you lived in Texas in the 80s, you knew who KVE was. Hell, my non-wrestling friends still drop Von Erich's / Freebirds on me as their wrestling name association.

The song title is Far From Over, not Far From Home.

There were also awards given not on the show. The above also doesn't have the Comeback of the Year that Lawler did win.

These were the Flair matches on the 1995 yearbook that Loss praised highly. The last tag is more because of the environment than Flair but I wanted it included. Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage, WCW Great American Bash 06/18/95 LOSS: Yeah, this blows away Wrestlemania VIII. Blows it out of the water. I don't think Flair still had it on a nightly basis at this point, but in this match, he looked closer to the Flair of old than in most of his other big 90s matches. Excellent performance from him, and Savage's bloody nose adds to this too. Ric Flair vs. Keiji Muto, NJPW G-1 Climax 08/13/95 LOSS: Joined in progress. This was fantastic! Muto's cut from the Chono match is reopened. This is really cool because Flair is playing the total heel instead of his normal, more subdued Japan act. Muto misses a moonsault and clinches his knee, just giving Flair a huge opening. But Flair decides to work the cut instead, which I think worked out way better. Flair throws some outstanding punches and eventually gets back to the knee before locking in the figure four. Muto's blood covered face while selling the figure four is quite the visual. I love how into the reversal the New Japan crowd gets -- yet another example of '95 New Japan reminding me of JCP. Excellent, excellent, excellent. I don't know how the whole match will look, but now I want to see it, because this was lots of fun, and Flair looked great! I kept looking for Flair scooting in for Muto's moonsault like jdw has talked about, but saw no such thing. Ric Flair vs. Arn Anderson, WCW Fall Brawl 09/17/95 LOSS: Every time I watch this, I expect to suddenly not like it anymore, considering the criticism this match gets at times. Then I watch it, see that this match is awesome, and realize that I was right all along! Ric Flair & Sting vs. Arn Anderson & Brian Pillman, WCW Halloween Havoc 10/29/95 LOSS: I've seen this a million times. It's still great to watch as a Flair performance ("Come on, Stinger! I'm here!"), and it still makes no sense (Why does Flair need to turn on Sting? Why not just reunite the Horsemen? Not sure what he gained from it ...) Anyway, I understand Sting's frustration. And it's also interesting that Flair complained on his shoot that Flair vs Arn was cut short, when it was in the WON at the time that Flair was insistent on turning heel again while WCW wanted him to stay a babyface because he was so over (which he was). Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage, WCW Monday Nitro 12/25/95 LOSS: These two work their asses off here and have a much better match than I expected they would. I like Flair taking it to the mat and doing the hammerlock pinning combo. He's also pretty aggressive with the punches and chops and the Jimmy Hart interference spots work well, and the post-match stuff with Sting and Luger was really fun and set up Starrcade really well. Hulk Hogan & Sting vs. Ric Flair & Arn Anderson, WCW Monday Nitro 12/11/95 LOSS: This is awesome! Hogan gets possibly the biggest heel heat of anyone on the entire yearbook -- coming out to LOUD boos, a "Hogan sucks" chant and fans ripping up his merchandise on camera! This is a pretty good match, but I can't get over the crazy crowd! Luger racking Hogan on the outside gets a big babyface pop. I guess in old NWA country, with Flair, Arn and Luger all against him, and Sting as a partner that is annoyed by him, he didn't have a chance, but it's still funny. The hot tag to Hogan gets absolutely no pop, and the reaction to the Hulk Up makes me wonder if we're going to see a riot. The post-match is good, with Pillman going after Sting and Luger making the save but letting Hogan fall by the wayside. Savage gets in Sting's face and gets punched for it! The crowd is totally on his side. Sting and Savage seem to be working out their issue and the crowd is reacting strongly, but Hogan is just KILLING this. Surreal all around, and probably one of the biggest must-sees on any yearbook.

After I finish reading this forum for updates, I am going to go to the 1995 and 1996 forums to do just that.

Dylan and I had a pone conversation maybe a year back where we actually talked on the phone for an hour and went year by year for Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio and I think Buddy Rose. We also did it for the family killer to get beyond the idea he was as good as Rey and Eddie in those years.

I like how JDW ignores the rules (lay off HBK mother fucker) but I forgive him because he made this into a picture thread which I love.

Incidentally, the 2 sets I have worked on to almost near completion that I have held off on releasing are Tenryu and Jumbo.

I didn't want my hate thread to branch out into a Jumbo-Tenryu discussion. This thread serves its purpose.

I am thinking about it. I am more offended by your dislike of the Fabulous Ones.

But others do not love both of them. Discuss.

I think there are glimpses of Glory Days Duggan in WWF but he definitely peaked in Mid South.

I am on board with this.

I disagree with this. On this board, the longevity is always attached to great matches or the idea that a guy should have hung it up a long time ago.

I see what you did there Awesome!

Stop being positive. This is about the negative energy!

This is WAR MOTHERFUCKER!!!! And the reason I created this thread I wanted to see if a name came up that inspired me to create another wrestler thread. Of course. Davey is off limits too. Nobody here likes that guy.

It's the holiday season so I am bringing the holiday blues to PWO. It is no surprise I don't care for Kane or Demolition but more specifically, I don't care for Barry Darsow. I didn't like him pre Dems or post Dems. However, we already have threads created to discuss those guys. My hope for this thread is that it becomes a springboard to create more individual threads where we can discuss individual wrestlers such as the Dick Murdoch or Terry Funk threads. JVK slagged Dick Murdoch and it forced me to put in words why I liked him so much. However, there are a number of other guys that I have see tons of while watching the 80s sets and yearbooks that I have seen praise for but that I cannot stand watching. The first one that comes to mind is Don Muraco. I thought Muraco Was actively bad in the singles matches I have seen in early 80s WWF. Jdw enjoyed the Backlund matches but I thought they were bad and not deserving of nomination for the new 80s WWF reset. His feud with Steamboat was easily the worst of the big WWF Steamboat feuds. I don't want this to turn into a Kurt Angle/HBK/Tiger Mask/Dynamite Kid thread so consider those 4 off limits.

For what i want out of my wrestling, Murdoch easily makes my Top 20. What hurts him for Top Ten is the amount of available footage and the rapid decline after his NWA run.