ohtani's jacket

Hector vs. Jose Lothario was good shit. I can can see the Eddie comparisons.

Kinda bummed to see Ashura Hara drop. Another guy I should have voted for. Who, or what, is a Lulu Pencil?

I think Lizmark's case boils down to his AAA work against Parka and Jerry Estrada. That's when we see Lizmark at the peak of his powers. There aren't a lot of great Lizmark matches or performances outside of that. Not saying he wasn't capable. We just don't have it on tape. Not that it makes much of a difference. Unless there are a lot of votes for the high end lucha candidates, it doesn't seem like this demographic cares much for lucha, or older wrestling in general.

There were some fun pairings in this drop. I imagine Umanosuke Ueda and Pierroth Jr would have no shortage of topics to converse about. Heck, they'd make a hell of a team. Poor Mimi. At least she ranked this time. I'm surprised that Angel Azteca didn't make the list in 2006. Victor Zangiev is a win for this year's edition. Jose Lothario, Bas Rutten and Ryuma Go is the best trio thus far. I'm kind of shocked Mile Zrno made it this far. Hana Kimura is a sad one. If you like the theatrical side of wrestling, there aren't 500 wrestlers better than Roger Delaporte. I wanted Inca Peruano to do better. Is that Super Delfin? I love me some Delfin. We now live in a world where Vince McMahon is a better pro-wrestler than Tibor Szakacs. I wonder how Cornette would feel about making the list. I guess he'd get a kick out of Gypsy Joe placing right above him. I dig Black Buffalo, but how did he get 10 votes?

OK, I see!

#681 Yumi Fukawa Did she get nominated? I can't find a thread.

Nice to see Les Kellett get so many votes. I'm pretty sure every luchador that's dropped so far is better than Niebla, and Rayo for that matter. I'm surprised that Cesca is so popular. Not only did he get more votes than Ben Chemoul, Billy Catanzaro didn't even get nominated.

Nice to see Pimpi and Cassandro getting some votes. KB('s write up about Hector Guerrero has me fired up. I didn't know that cad is a WoS fan.

Alas poor Caswell Martin, I knew him. I am kinda happy that he was sandwiched between WING Kanemura and Mami Kumano, though. I mean that's pretty cool. I always felt as though Kumano laid the groundwork for bitchy wrestlers like Mima Shimoda and Takako Inoue.

Sid was on my short list but was culled. Deserves more recognition. If people like Breaks, they should check out Cooper as well.

There was a Horst match from the 60s in the French footage, fwiw.

If you're going to watch one Steve Veidor match, make it Veidor vs Gwyn Davies. One of the best matches of the 70s.

I dunno what was going on with the WWE in May, but it doesn't seem like there was anything worth watching. What a boring cage match. Who was the road agent for this crap? WrestleMania is looking more and ,more like an Undertaker carry job. Maybe the best of his career.

I'll see you that and raise the two Leilani Kai vs. Chigusa matches. I wonder how far people got post-Dump. Maybe that was a factor. Judy Martin is a great worker, I just find it weird that Lelani wasn't nominated as well.

OK, so this was good. Danielson's "best in the world" shtick irritates me, but that shot at the end with the bleeding forehead almost had me believing. This was a straight up work rate match. Yeah, the selling, transitions and character work could have been better at times (you're not wrong, Marty), but in terms of two dudes hitting each other with everything they've got, this was extremely satisfying. McGuiness may not be the smartest wrestler of all-time, but he knows how to hit a guy with a short arm lariat, and I think he matches up with Danielson extremely well. I could watch these two pummel each other all day long, though I doubt it would be great for either man's health.

How did Judy Martin get nominated but Lelani Kai didn't?

Was it Joshifans?

That reminds me of that fun primer comp that was made of early 00s Joshi. I can't remember the name of the guy who made it off the top of my head, but he was a cool dude. That and PUNQ match lists. Another guy who abandoned wrestling for movies, IIRC.

I really should have voted for Ken Joyce. Definitely the best of the WoS maestros. Not that it would have made much of a difference with the WoS guys dropping like flies. 00s Joshi perennially overlooked. I guess it may be that way for all time. To be fair, the decade started promisingly but fell off pretty quickly.

No-one will confuse this with being Joe and AJ's best match, but Joe vs. AJ lite is still a Joe vs. AJ match. You wish there was more depth to it, but they're being pushed for their workrate first and foremost. Weird WWE-esque finish.

I feel guilty since I left Rey off my list.

Yes! The docile tones of Matt D.

Nominating workers so that you can vote for themselves only for them to get 1 point anyway seems like an unnecessary step. I would prefer write-in votes, but it's not gonna move the needle either way.

Ted DiBiase vs. The Barbarian in a ten minute MidSouth brawl sounds like perfection.

Perhaps what you guys have done with the list in the 10 years since is more impactful (and positive) than the poll was at the time. The concept of only getting to do it once every 10 years, and younger fans finally getting a chance to vote, seems like a much brighter legacy than anything I remember from the '16 vote. I don't want to dismiss any of the work that went into the podcasts, though. Were you doing your podcast with Jimmy Redman at the time? Was that you? Tell me that was you.